Do you think following the possible failure of Osiris capturing Blue Team throughout the game, ONI will lay blame on the ‘weaker’ Spartan IV’s in general and create Spartan V’s? Massive, twice the size of Spartan IIs, barely human, killing machines?
If not in Halo 5, do you think it’s a possibility in another Halo game?
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> Do you think following the possible failure of Osiris capturing Blue Team throughout the game, ONI will lay blame on the ‘weaker’ Spartan IV’s in general and create Spartan V’s? Massive, twice the size of Spartan IIs, barely human, killing machines?
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Spartan IV’s have only been active for a few short years there is no need for Spartan V’s.
Bigger spartans just make them easier targets. Not to mention twice the size would cause all sorts of other complications.
No. Spartan IVs are still new, and the truth is there’s not too much of a power gap between them and IIs. There is one, but not so significant that a IV can’t beat a two. Also, they’d need to make new child soldiers to get that size and power back, as it was still growing that enabled the genetic manipulation to be so effective and for them to grow so big.
That’s not saying Spartan Vs won’t ever be a thing, but not for a long time. And certainly not like you describe.
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> Bigger spartans just make them easier targets. Not to mention twice the size would cause all sorts of other complications.
Yeah would be a kinda horrible idea for ONI. Probably would be more likely they do more of the Spartan-IIs in secret.
The massive Spartan idea maybe not so much, but with all the Forerunner tech being discovered, surely they’ll create a newer version at some point.
Probably not anytime soon the IV’s seem to still do a good job.
Spartan V’s will likely be “volunteers” composed into ONI controlled Prometheans.
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> Spartan V’s will likely be “volunteers” composed into ONI controlled Prometheans.
Would seem like an entirely different program at that point. Titan I’s
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> Do you think following the possible failure of Osiris capturing Blue Team throughout the game, ONI will lay blame on the ‘weaker’ Spartan IV’s in general and create Spartan V’s? Massive, twice the size of Spartan IIs, barely human, killing machines?
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It is a slim possibility that they eventually create a new generation of Spartans, but that would only be in the very distant future of the franchise. And they certainly wouldn’t make them as you describe, as the whole point of the Spartain IV program was to make the Spartans more human by augmenting adult volunteers who were already part of the military.
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> Do you think following the possible failure of Osiris capturing Blue Team throughout the game, ONI will lay blame on the ‘weaker’ Spartan IV’s in general and create Spartan V’s? Massive, twice the size of Spartan IIs, barely human, killing machines?
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> If not in Halo 5, do you think it’s a possibility in another Halo game?
Possibly the most stupid theory ever. The Spartan IVs have been very effective in their short service and there’s no need to replace them. Why would ONI do any of that? Also the only way to get those sort of results would be by using children like with Spartan IIs. Which the UNSC and human population discovered and were outraged by so the Spartan IVs were created as an almost effective alternative with adult volunteers, which is much more moral and easy to swallow.
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Titan I’s would be ONI controlled Guardians, more like Atreus for ONI Prometheans?
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The thing that I really hate about this theory is that I can easily see ONI doing something like that. Maybe as the new threat to deal with in Halo 7? A rogue ONI backed up by these Spartan/Promethean hybrids? 
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> No. Spartan IVs are still new, and the truth is there’s not too much of a power gap between them and IIs. There is one, but not so significant that a IV can’t beat a two. Also, they’d need to make new child soldiers to get that size and power back, as it was still growing that enabled the genetic manipulation to be so effective and for them to grow so big.
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> That’s not saying Spartan Vs won’t ever be a thing, but not for a long time. And certainly not like you describe.
I think the gap between the Spartan IIs and IVs is larger than you think. These were kids who grew up training to the best of their abilities… they don’t know anything else. To say there’s not much of a power gap between them totally diminishes what the Spartan IIs went through.
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> > No. Spartan IVs are still new, and the truth is there’s not too much of a power gap between them and IIs. There is one, but not so significant that a IV can’t beat a two. Also, they’d need to make new child soldiers to get that size and power back, as it was still growing that enabled the genetic manipulation to be so effective and for them to grow so big.
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> I think the gap between the Spartan IIs and IVs is larger than you think. These were kids who grew up training to the best of their abilities… they don’t know anything else. To say there’s not much of a power gap between them totally diminishes what the Spartan IIs went through.
In terms of experiences yes you’re right Spartan IIs went through far more, and have much more ability and out of armour or in armour in small group engagements the Spartan II’s superior strength and unit cohesion mean they could crush the spartan IV’s pretty handily. However in the intervening years, armour and augmentation technology has increased to the point that an armoured spartan IV could very well hold their own against an armoured spartan II 1v1. Plus there are more of them so they could overwhelm them with sheer numbers. Don’t get me wrong Spartan IIs are superior but in terms of Cost efficiency they’re pretty high budget. So why go to the financial trouble of the Spartan II program or god help us Spartan-Prometheans. When spartan IVs are nearly as good and you can pretty much mass produce them?
If anything. I’d like to see some forerunner Tech being used into the Spartans. Definitely make for some cool looking armor.
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> > No. Spartan IVs are still new, and the truth is there’s not too much of a power gap between them and IIs. There is one, but not so significant that a IV can’t beat a two. Also, they’d need to make new child soldiers to get that size and power back, as it was still growing that enabled the genetic manipulation to be so effective and for them to grow so big.
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> I think the gap between the Spartan IIs and IVs is larger than you think. These were kids who grew up training to the best of their abilities… they don’t know anything else. To say there’s not much of a power gap between them totally diminishes what the Spartan IIs went through.
That depends on whether they’re wearing their armor or not. The Spartan-IV augmentation process was substantially less intensive than the Spartan-II process. To the point where out of their armor, a Spartan-II would absolutely destroy a Spartan-IV. However, the Spartan-IV’s armor is much more advanced, to the point that it actually makes up the difference between their speed and power.
As for their training, all Spartan-IVs are actually completely re-trained post-augmentation via a program designed and overseen by a Spartan-II washout, whose name presently escapes me. It’s explained in Halo: New Blood, the novel about Buck and how he becomes a Spartan-IV.
So in all reality, the gap between the IVs and IIs is actually a good deal smaller than most people think.
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> > I think the gap between the Spartan IIs and IVs is larger than you think. These were kids who grew up training to the best of their abilities… they don’t know anything else. To say there’s not much of a power gap between them totally diminishes what the Spartan IIs went through.
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> That depends on whether they’re wearing their armor or not. The Spartan-IV augmentation process was substantially less intensive than the Spartan-II process. To the point where out of their armor, a Spartan-II would absolutely destroy a Spartan-IV. However, the Spartan-IV’s armor is much more advanced, to the point that it actually makes up the difference between their speed and power.
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> As for their training, all Spartan-IVs are actually completely re-trained post-augmentation via a program designed and overseen by a Spartan-II washout, whose name presently escapes me. It’s explained in Halo: New Blood, the novel about Buck and how he becomes a Spartan-IV.
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Correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t it Jun that helped with the Spartan IV?
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> > > > No. Spartan IVs are still new, and the truth is there’s not too much of a power gap between them and IIs. There is one, but not so significant that a IV can’t beat a two. Also, they’d need to make new child soldiers to get that size and power back, as it was still growing that enabled the genetic manipulation to be so effective and for them to grow so big.
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> > > I think the gap between the Spartan IIs and IVs is larger than you think. These were kids who grew up training to the best of their abilities… they don’t know anything else. To say there’s not much of a power gap between them totally diminishes what the Spartan IIs went through.
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> > As for their training, all Spartan-IVs are actually completely re-trained post-augmentation via a program designed and overseen by a Spartan-II washout, whose name presently escapes me. It’s explained in Halo: New Blood, the novel about Buck and how he becomes a Spartan-IV.
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Jun helped, yes, but Musa-096 (just looked up his name) was the real operational brains behind them. Jun basically worked for him.
Spartan IV’s won’t be decommissioned anytime soon. It would be a horrible mismanagement of military assets by scrapping the project.