In infinite, do you think there will be a new Spartan program trained especially for going against flood and promethean forces? Or do you think we need to see the spartan iv program a lil more before we send them off?
Id prefer to see the spartan IV’s a bit more, I like their premise and would love to see them receive the recognition they deserve after their reputation has been tarnished by Palmer, Demarco, and Locke. I also love how the players multiplayer S-IV is a canon character. if there were to be S-V’s in infinite I think it could be an evolution from the S-IV program, with S-IVs re-undergoing the augmentation surgeries (though, this could be contradictory to canon, so some retconning may occur. but this would be a retcon I could get behind)
I think it’s a bit soon to be jumping generations. Let’s flesh out the IV’s a bit more before we go genetically modifying more people.
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> Id prefer to see the spartan IV’s a bit more, I like their premise and would love to see them receive the recognition they deserve after their reputation has been tarnished by Palmer, Demarco, and Locke. I also love how the players multiplayer S-IV is a canon character. if there were to be S-V’s in infinite I think it could be an evolution from the S-IV program, with S-IVs re-undergoing the augmentation surgeries (though, this could be contradictory to canon, so some retconning may occur. but this would be a retcon I could get behind)
Ok so you think we should see them more and give them more recognition? Sure.
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> I think it’s a bit soon to be jumping generations. Let’s flesh out the IV’s a bit more before we go genetically modifying more people.
Ok maybe Infinite will do just that.
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> In infinite, do you think there will be a new Spartan program trained especially for going against flood and promethean forces? Or do you think we need to see the spartan iv program a lil more before we send them off?
i Would like to see the Spartan V program wirh The New Mark VII Armor wheraing on the trailer during Infinite Scene
If anything I expect to see more SII’s. Blue Team probably will stay and if they bring in Halo Wars 2’s story we also get Red Team, adding 4 more SII’s. Some SIV’s will probably return but as far as I’m concerned anything after SIII can be scrapped mostly.
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> > In infinite, do you think there will be a new Spartan program trained especially for going against flood and promethean forces? Or do you think we need to see the spartan iv program a lil more before we send them off?
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> i Would like to see the Spartan V program wirh The New Mark VII Armor wheraing on the trailer during Infinite Scene
That would be cool to see
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> If anything I expect to see more SII’s. Blue Team probably will stay and if they bring in Halo Wars 2’s story we also get Red Team, adding 4 more SII’s. Some SIV’s will probably return but as far as I’m concerned anything after SIII can be scrapped mostly.
yes! This could complete the whole thing!
I think they have compromised the vision of what a Spartan is supposed to be more than enough already.
The original intent of the Spartan program was to augment humans to the limits of scientific knowledge at the time. Part of the reason the Spartan II training regimen was so rigorous was to specifically weed out the candidates that were most likely to die during the process. By the time Spartan IV became a thing the augments had been reduced and limited in such a way that it may as well be an out patient visit.
Does a prospective Spartan V go to the local pharmacy and get a DIY home kit?
The point I’m trying to make is , The original Mjolnir required all (well most) of the Spartan II augments just for a person to be able to survive the muscle impulses created by the suit. They (Halsey) chose the children they did as to ensure the highest survivability rate possible and still wound up with 75 usable subjects out of (we think) somewhere around 300. The Spartan IV program has closer augments to II than SIII did but they are still inferior ; and I get making a cheaper product so that it can be mass produced ; but at some point the returns become untenable. If they keep making the augments and armor less capable , then a Spartan is no more than a glorified ODST (awesome in their own right , but definitely not a Spartan)
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> I think they have compromised the vision of what a Spartan is supposed to be more than enough already.
> The original intent of the Spartan program was to augment humans to the limits of scientific knowledge at the time. Part of the reason the Spartan II training regimen was so rigorous was to specifically weed out the candidates that were most likely to die during the process. By the time Spartan IV became a thing the augments had been reduced and limited in such a way that it may as well be an out patient visit.
> Does a prospective Spartan V go to the local pharmacy and get a DIY home kit?
> The point I’m trying to make is , The original Mjolnir required all (well most) of the Spartan II augments just for a person to be able to survive the muscle impulses created by the suit. They (Halsey) chose the children they did as to ensure the highest survivability rate possible and still wound up with 75 usable subjects out of (we think) somewhere around 300. The Spartan IV program has closer augments to II than SIII did but they are still inferior ; and I get making a cheaper product so that it can be mass produced ; but at some point the returns become untenable. If they keep making the augments and armor less capable , then a Spartan is no more than a glorified ODST (awesome in their own right , but definitely not a Spartan)
Ok so we all have our own opinons. But yes this will make them look like ODSTs I guess.
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> In infinite, do you think there will be a new Spartan program trained especially for going against flood and promethean forces? Or do you think we need to see the spartan iv program a lil more before we send them off?
Nope. If they make any new Spartans it will be cortana and the createds Spartans but I hope we don’t get another program for Spartans.
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> > In infinite, do you think there will be a new Spartan program trained especially for going against flood and promethean forces? Or do you think we need to see the spartan iv program a lil more before we send them off?
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> Nope. If they make any new Spartans it will be cortana and the createds Spartans but I hope we don’t get another program for Spartans.
I did think about it that way but sure.
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> The Spartan IV program has closer augments to II than SIII did but they are still inferior ; and I get making a cheaper product so that it can be mass produced
people keep using this “mass produced” complaint as an argument against spartan IVs. and honestly, if you know lore, this is an illogical point to keep bringing up. by the time of halo 5 there have been roughly 500 S-IVs, which may seem like a lot when compared to S-IIs. however this does not compare to the S-IIIs, where their numbers range somewhere between 930 and the 1020’s.
Honestly it wouldn’t make sense to close the SIV Program since it’s the “open” program unlike its predecessors. If anything they would just expand on it.
IF they really wanted to go for a “V” Program it would just be an upgraded more advance version of the IV but that’s just extra in my opinion. But hey it’s possible to make it work with good story writing.
Spartan 4 are fine for now. They are likely to become what every solder in the UNSC is at some point. Newer generations of Spartans may get improvement over early iterations but they will likely still just be Spartan 4s. If we do get a Spartan 5, assuming that’s what they are called, it will most likely be a Classified ONI project and we probably wont be playing as them or even seeing them at least not in Halo Infinite.
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> > The Spartan IV program has closer augments to II than SIII did but they are still inferior ; and I get making a cheaper product so that it can be mass produced
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> people keep using this “mass produced” complaint as an argument against spartan IVs. and honestly, if you know lore, this is an illogical point to keep bringing up. by the time of halo 5 there have been roughly 500 S-IVs, which may seem like a lot when compared to S-IIs. however this does not compare to the S-IIIs, where their numbers range somewhere between 930 and the 1020’s.
Yes but that Number continues to grow. They aren’t making 3 anymore and they are continually making more 4s. Also it likely take less time to make and Train a Spartan 4 as they already have been train as soldiers and the Augmentations aren’t as drastic.
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> > The Spartan IV program has closer augments to II than SIII did but they are still inferior ; and I get making a cheaper product so that it can be mass produced
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> people keep using this “mass produced” complaint as an argument against spartan IVs. and honestly, if you know lore, this is an illogical point to keep bringing up. by the time of halo 5 there have been roughly 500 S-IVs, which may seem like a lot when compared to S-IIs. however this does not compare to the S-IIIs, where their numbers range somewhere between 930 and the 1020’s.
Sorry , but it remains true. Think of the SII suite of augmentations like a tailored suit. It is made specifically for your needs. Think of SIV as something you would buy off the rack at wal-mart. It does the job it is designed to do, but is made to fit a larger group of people.
Think about the description for Buck in ODST. It literally says ,“if he were any better , he’d be a Spartan”. So clearly , between ODST and H5 they watered down the Spartan augmentation process so that more people could qualify for them.
And I don’t care how refined the techniques become , invasive procedures like bone density and muscle graphs don’t become more tolerable or less dangerous. Reflex and cognitive enhancements , (both being complex nerve and brain surgeries) , don’t become less dangerous.
Also , Just because a Spartan IV is not as “cheap” a product as a Spartan III , doesn’t change the fact that they are a “mass produced” product in comparison to Spartan II.
With all thats going on the Halo universe currently & the IVs being rather recent addition, I doubt there will be Vs just yet in Infinite.
Likely humanity will just work with what they currently have.
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> Yes but that Number continues to grow. They aren’t making 3 anymore and they are continually making more 4s. Also it likely take less time to make and Train a Spartan 4 as they already have been train as soldiers and the Augmentations aren’t as drastic.
wouldn’t the Created patrolling the galaxy looking for the infinity effectively put that number growth on hold? the only way they can get new 4’s is through recruitment, which would be much more difficult with Cortana’s forces monitoring every planet and keeping an eye out for any potential spartan related activity.
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> > Yes but that Number continues to grow. They aren’t making 3 anymore and they are continually making more 4s. Also it likely take less time to make and Train a Spartan 4 as they already have been train as soldiers and the Augmentations aren’t as drastic.
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> wouldn’t the Created patrolling the galaxy looking for the infinity effectively put that number growth on hold? the only way they can get new 4’s is through recruitment, which would be much more difficult with Cortana’s forces monitoring every planet and keeping an eye out for any potential spartan related activity.
Covenant didnt stop them from making spartan 3. The created should only push the to make as many 4s as possible. Infinity seem to be able both augment and train the 4s on it’s own and I doubt it’s the only place the unsc has that can do that. Also Cortana doesnt know everything she just knows a lot.
I seriously doubt it there’s no need for Vs, IVs are volunteers and adults and I think ONI have ruled out children at this point.