Spartan Ops, a bad replacement of Firefight.

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First of all, i really enjoy Spartan Ops so far, but it’s NOTHING compared to Firefight…

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Upon playing 3 rounds of Spartan Ops, i became bored. Reasons?
1: The maps were WAY TOO SMALL, we did each map on like… 5 minutes.
2: It’s the same thing, over and over and over again.
3: You know what to expect, where the covies/promethians will spawn, what will happen when you do this and that… etc.
4: It’s not as random as i was hoping for. Firefight is very random, which is something i liked.

Now, i am NOT SAYING that 343 should REMOVE Spartan Ops, not at all. I enjoy Spartan Ops to a degree, and i LOOK FORWARD TO MORE EPISODES of it.

No, what i want, and what i suggest is this: Give us Firefight back.

Firefight is something i really LOVED about Halo Reach/Halo: ODST… It’s so random, because it’s never the same. The NPCs never spawn when you move to point A, instead, they spawn at a random position when you’re done with the first wave…

Firefight never gets boring due to it being so RANDOM, which is also why i like it. Spartan Ops is the same thing over, and over, and over again… Firefight allows you to do what YOU want, not what the “campaign” wants. You can let them come to you, or you go to them. You choose more, and use strategies more.

This is more like a suggestion than a rant, but i guess it’s both.

My point is… I miss Firefight a lot, and Spartan Ops will NOT replaced it, it’s too short, not random enough, and it gets very boring in the long run.

That’s about it… I really hope 343 adds Firefight to Halo 4, or AT LEAST Halo 5-6. Due to the lack of Firefight, i think i’ll play Halo Reach more than Halo 4… I love firefight, and i hope it returns.

Thank you for reading, feel free to suggest/leave feedback on the thread.

//End transmission

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4 votes and no responses? That’s a shame :S

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I feel that Spartan Ops is a better alternative. I actually felt Firefight get boring fairly quickly but when I played Spartan Ops on two missions thus far, they were pretty fun and unexpected. The fact it also has story implications makes it so much better.

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Agreed with what you said. Spartan Ops itself is a decent mode, an episodic campaign we can all look forward to every week but the problem lies with what happened after we cleared it? There is no longer any element of surprise and there is no competitive scoring.

My mates and i probably spent 3/4 of our Halo Reach total playtime on Firefight. Rocketfight, sniper fight etc, it’s just mindless fun. Everyone dashing out only to get our ar ses kicked by the Elites.

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> Upon playing 3 rounds of Spartan Ops, i became bored. Reasons?
> 1: The maps were WAY TOO SMALL, we did each map on like… 5 minutes.
> 2: It’s the same thing, over and over and over again.
> 3: You know what to expect, where the covies/promethians will spawn, what will happen when you do this and that… etc.
> 4: It’s not as random as i was hoping for. Firefight is very random, which is something i liked.

This is not different than firefight with the exception of map size and time to complete…

> Now, i am NOT SAYING that 343 should REMOVE Spartan Ops, not at all. I enjoy Spartan Ops to a degree, and i LOOK FORWARD TO MORE EPISODES of it.
>
> No, what i want, and what i suggest is this: Give us Firefight back.
>
> Firefight is something i really LOVED about Halo Reach/Halo: ODST… It’s so random, because it’s never the same. The NPCs never spawn when you move to point A, instead, they spawn at a random position when you’re done with the first wave…
>
> Firefight never gets boring due to it being so RANDOM, which is also why i like it. Spartan Ops is the same thing over, and over, and over again… Firefight allows you to do what YOU want, not what the “campaign” wants. You can let them come to you, or you go to them. You choose more, and use strategies more.
>
> This is more like a suggestion than a rant, but i guess it’s both.
>
> My point is… I miss Firefight a lot, and Spartan Ops will NOT replaced it, it’s too short, not random enough, and it gets very boring in the long run.

I agree with the bold stuff, but I dont think firefight is all that random…

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Spartan Ops is far better than firefight in my opinion. My biggest problem with firefight in Reach is that the people who play it ruined it for me. When you go into matchmaking and everyone votes for Gruntpocolypse or Rocket Fight on Normal it takes away all challenge and turns it into a frenzy of mindless explosions (though that can be fun from time to time). I liked Firefight in ODST much better because it involved a challenge, you had standard issue weapons like an SMG and had to survive increasingly more difficult waves of opponents. If they brought back ODST style I would be fine with it, but as it stands, I prefer Spartan Ops to Reach Firefight.

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> Spartan Ops is far better than firefight in my opinion. My biggest problem with firefight in Reach is that the people who play it ruined it for me. When you go into matchmaking and everyone votes for Gruntpocolypse or Rocket Fight on Normal it takes away all challenge and turns it into a frenzy of mindless explosions (though that can be fun from time to time). I liked Firefight in ODST much better because it involved a challenge, you had standard issue weapons like an SMG and had to survive increasingly more difficult waves of opponents. If they brought back ODST style I would be fine with it, but as it stands, I prefer Spartan Ops to Reach Firefight.

I agree, those gametypes would have to go. Normal ODST firefight is what i am going for here.

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Spartan Ops is great but each mission doesn’t last that long, 5-7 minutes is way too short. Feels like you just got started and then the game is over.

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Is there a way to get a stickied discussion about firefight going?

Edit: Also, why do you NOT want Firefight to return?

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No, I would rather 343 focus on Spartan Ops. There is always room for improvement.

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it only takes 3 words to describe sparton ops…big let down

after you have played each mission once you know whats gonna happen, boring

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If anyone can solo Spartan Ops in five mins on Legendary, then fair play to you… but I will say this. Vids or it didn’t happen! lol

But yes, I too loved FF… However, i’m more than willing to give SO a fair crack of the whip. At the end of the day, SO is very much like FF… just on much bigger maps in some cases :slight_smile:

Also… FF wasn’t that random at all. I always pretty much knew what enemy to expect, & when to expect them :slight_smile:

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> Spartan Ops is far better than firefight in my opinion. My biggest problem with firefight in Reach is that the people who play it ruined it for me. When you go into matchmaking and everyone votes for Gruntpocolypse or Rocket Fight on Normal it takes away all challenge and turns it into a frenzy of mindless explosions (though that can be fun from time to time). I liked Firefight in ODST much better because it involved a challenge, you had standard issue weapons like an SMG and had to survive increasingly more difficult waves of opponents. If they brought back ODST style I would be fine with it, but as it stands, I prefer Spartan Ops to Reach Firefight.

Firstly, you could never pick Grunt in MM Firefight. Arcadefight was the most popular type, by far. Spartan ops doesnt lack excitement or too short, we knew ahead of time that they would be short. Most everything about it is good, using your same loadouts is nice, hopefully you will be able to have a spops loadout with a power weapon to start at some time. I would prefer if it had elements of Reach and Odst. A blend rather than a hardline is alot easier to swallow.

Where I have a problem :
No Scoring
No Medals popping up, if I get a killionare, i want to know about it.
No Jeff/Announcer, I dont even know why they wouldnt put that in.
No Challenges being shown up in the payout screen when you complete them.

Overall, 45 more missions is alot if you think about it. Surely, there has to be atleast one that will feel like Reach’s FF. So, I can be patient to see what they are going to do. I enjoy it alot, the Matchnaking version is a blast with three others. I and three randoms wrecked a few missions together.

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Well to me when I played the two levels where it was solely Prometheans it felt like firefight because they just kept on respawning and coming in waves.

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> Well to me when I played the two levels where it was solely Prometheans it felt like firefight because they just kept on respawning and coming in waves.

But the waves did end. Thats the big difference. I would settle for an option to make the waves endless in spartan ops.

Spartan ops are meant to be completed, in firefight you are meant to die trying.

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I have made a full suggestions thread for Firefight in Spartan Ops, Please check it out if you have voted here and read the thread/or plan to read the thread/vote/reply.

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heck yes! please bring firefight back! I agree with OP. Spartan ops is good thought and all, but FF was just downright fun. It really increased the replayability of halo reach. Just you, three other spartans, and a massive covenant bloodfest. I spent most of my time in reach in this mode. Played countless hours, and had an inimaginable amount of fun!

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You guys do realise this just isn’t going to happen, right? FF would be a huge expansion which would require way too much time to add post-launch and deter from them focusing on improving the MP. Besides, FF in Reach was terrible. It was nothing more than a grindfest. No survival aspect to it whatsoever, even in customs.

No, I’m against this idea. It won’t end will if implemented.

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Lemme first say the Reach firefight was awful.
Unless you were just doing it with crazy weapons and stats for fun, it was the most mind numbing thing you could do in that game.
I do agree with you, the chapters are ridiculously short and left me feeling unsatisfied. But remember, this is a totally new addition to the game, and it’s a great idea. You gotta give 343 a chance with this.

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It would be nice as an addition, yes. Not a replacement, obviously.

Maybe as a DLC…?