Spartan Augmentation

So, with Spartan IV’s being “demi-gods” as Buck calls them, comparing them to the II’s and III’s, where does that put them in relation to regular humans? Somewhere comparable to Captain America, who can bench somewhere around 1200 pounds? I’d love to see the stats on IV’s and how they stack up between the originals and humans. What do you guys think?

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According to Initiation, IVs can outrun a horse, which means they’re about on par with IIs in terms of speed. There’s honestly no REAL reason why the IVs CAN’T be as physically strong as IIs, considering that a II’s strength isn’t even peak human, let alone superhuman.

While humanity’s tech in Halo has always been poor when it comes to small arms and ground vehicles, they’re actually pretty damn impressive in every other regard.

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> According to Initiation, IVs can outrun a horse, which means they’re about on par with IIs in terms of speed. There’s honestly no REAL reason why the IVs CAN’T be as physically strong as IIs, considering that a II’s strength isn’t even peak human, let alone superhuman.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but a lot of the stats stated on the 2’s where only when the 2’s were 12 and Mendez said their attributes would get even better as they grew up, I think this was why such young age/pre-puberty was a big deal when augmenting the 2’s and 3’s

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Chief actually got slower over the years. If we take John’s top speed from the Mark V testing, and assume the Mark V only doubled his speed (which is a VERY generous assumption), then we end up with a number that is a bit less than what Mendez initially said.

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That may be a slight oversight by Nylund, but fair enough,
bt the way, have we had any definitive info on the 4’s speed other than the outrunning a horse statement? potentially it seems like it could be a ‘stronger than an ox’ kind of statement

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> That may be a slight oversight by Nylund, but fair enough,
> bt the way, have we had any definitive info on the 4’s speed other than the outrunning a horse statement? potentially it seems like it could be a ‘stronger than an ox’ kind of statement

Nylund DOES make his fair share of mistakes, especially when it comes to the feats of the Spartans. Like, in the same chapter where Mendez states that the IIs can lift 3 times their body weight, we then see John kick a trainer in MJOLNIR Mark I (which probably weighs half a ton like future Marks, if not more) a distance of eight meters. I dunno about you, but I can’t kick my bench pressing max a total distance of eight meters. So, either Nylund made a mistake, or John NEVER skipped leg day.

And the only statement on their speed came from Initiation, which, granted, is not the most credible source. I mean, in the same page, Palmer states that IVs can BREATHE Methane for an hour. If this was actually true, that would mean that the UNSC somehow altered the human body on a fundamental level, and made it possible for the cells to actually utilize Methane. Many fans have since disregarded Palmer’s statement, and instead insist that IVs can only TOLERATE Methane for an hour.

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> That may be a slight oversight by Nylund, but fair enough,
> bt the way, have we had any definitive info on the 4’s speed other than the outrunning a horse statement? potentially it seems like it could be a ‘stronger than an ox’ kind of statement

That’s the way it seems to me too. A book that actually goes into detail about the stats of IV’s and their over strength, speed, endurance, and reflexes. Something to relate to them in terms of standard marines or ODST’s. I personally link them to Captain America in terms of their physics, except a good 8-9inches taller.

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> > > > > According to Initiation, IVs can outrun a horse, which means they’re about on par with IIs in terms of speed. There’s honestly no REAL reason why the IVs CAN’T be as physically strong as IIs, considering that a II’s strength isn’t even peak human, let alone superhuman.
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> > > > Correct me if I’m wrong, but a lot of the stats connected to the 2’s where only when the 2’s were 12 and Mendez said their attributes would get even better as they grew up, I think this was why such young age/pre-puberty was a big deal when augmenting the 2’s and 3’s
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> > That may be a slight oversight by Nylund, but fair enough,
> > bt the way, have we had any definitive info on the 4’s speed other than the outrunning a horse statement? potentially it seems like it could be a ‘stronger than an ox’ kind of statement
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> That’s the way it seems to me too. A book that actually goes into detail about the stats of IV’s and their over strength, speed, endurance, and reflexes. Something to relate to them in terms of standard marines or ODST’s. I personally link them to Captain America in terms of their physics, except a good 8-9inches taller.

I always assumed that any un-armoured Spartan is as strong as Captain America.

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> > > > > Correct me if I’m wrong, but a lot of the stats connected to the 2’s where only when the 2’s were 12 and Mendez said their attributes would get even better as they grew up, I think this was why such young age/pre-puberty was a big deal when augmenting the 2’s and 3’s
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> > > > Chief actually got slower over the years. If we take John’s top speed from the Mark V testing, and assume the Mark V only doubled his speed (which is a VERY generous assumption), then we end up with a number that is a bit less than what Mendez initially said.
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> > > That may be a slight oversight by Nylund, but fair enough,
> > > bt the way, have we had any definitive info on the 4’s speed other than the outrunning a horse statement? potentially it seems like it could be a ‘stronger than an ox’ kind of statement
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> > That’s the way it seems to me too. A book that actually goes into detail about the stats of IV’s and their over strength, speed, endurance, and reflexes. Something to relate to them in terms of standard marines or ODST’s. I personally link them to Captain America in terms of their physics, except a good 8-9inches taller.
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Cap has comic book bullshittery behind him.

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> > > > > Chief actually got slower over the years. If we take John’s top speed from the Mark V testing, and assume the Mark V only doubled his speed (which is a VERY generous assumption), then we end up with a number that is a bit less than what Mendez initially said.
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> > > > That may be a slight oversight by Nylund, but fair enough,
> > > > bt the way, have we had any definitive info on the 4’s speed other than the outrunning a horse statement? potentially it seems like it could be a ‘stronger than an ox’ kind of statement
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> > > That’s the way it seems to me too. A book that actually goes into detail about the stats of IV’s and their over strength, speed, endurance, and reflexes. Something to relate to them in terms of standard marines or ODST’s. I personally link them to Captain America in terms of their physics, except a good 8-9inches taller.
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Yea, they’re basically Captain America in an Iron Man suit, minus the ability to fly (although they can fall with style).

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> > > > > That may be a slight oversight by Nylund, but fair enough,
> > > > > bt the way, have we had any definitive info on the 4’s speed other than the outrunning a horse statement? potentially it seems like it could be a ‘stronger than an ox’ kind of statement
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> > > > That’s the way it seems to me too. A book that actually goes into detail about the stats of IV’s and their over strength, speed, endurance, and reflexes. Something to relate to them in terms of standard marines or ODST’s. I personally link them to Captain America in terms of their physics, except a good 8-9inches taller.
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> Yea, they’re basically Captain America in an Iron Man suit, minus the ability to fly (although they can all with style).

Like that reference!

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> So, with Spartan IV’s being “demi-gods” as Buck calls them, comparing them to the II’s and III’s, where does that put them in relation to regular humans? Somewhere comparable to Captain America, who can bench somewhere around 1200 pounds? I’d love to see the stats on IV’s and how they stack up between the originals and humans. What do you guys think?

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Well, allow me to put your opinions to rest. No. Minus the designation of a supersoldier- Captain America and SPARTANs share no similarities whatsoever. The good Captain is so blantly superhuman (and I’m only referring to the Cinematic version) that he makes high-end SPARTAN II’s in armor look like SPARTAN IV’s without armor. The sheer differences are so great, but subtle, that its…extremely clever.

As the most recent Civil War trailers show us, Captain America’s feats have increased to such a degree, that nothing short of another equally, powerful superhuman or outerworld entity (or Iron man) could possibly stand a chance in a one-on-one. With a top sprinting speed of no less then 42 miles per hour (it can go up as far as 72mph), a lifting capability that measures in the tens of tons (50+ for legs), his most recent durability feat is that 1.4 ton pull-exertion that he handled. Even with armor, no SPARTAN would be anywhere near the level of Captain America… (although there is probably a comic universe or two that weakened him incredibly).

If SPARTAN IV’s are demi gods, then Captain America is a Titan.

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> > So, with Spartan IV’s being “demi-gods” as Buck calls them, comparing them to the II’s and III’s, where does that put them in relation to regular humans? Somewhere comparable to Captain America, who can bench somewhere around 1200 pounds? I’d love to see the stats on IV’s and how they stack up between the originals and humans. What do you guys think?
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> Well, allow me to put your opinions to rest. No. Minus the designation of a supersoldier- Captain America and SPARTANs share no similarities whatsoever. The good Captain is so blantly superhuman (and I’m only referring to the Cinematic version) that he makes high-end SPARTAN II’s in armor look like SPARTAN IV’s without armor. The sheer differences are so great, but subtle, that its…extremely clever.
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> As the most recent Civil War trailers show us, Captain America’s feats have increased to such a degree, that nothing short of another equally, powerful superhuman or outerworld entity (or Iron man) could possibly stand a chance in a one-on-one. With a top sprinting speed of no less then 42 miles per hour (it can go up as far as 72mph), a lifting capability that measures in the tens of tons (50+ for legs), his most recent durability feat is that 1.4 ton pull-exertion that he handled. Even with armor, no SPARTAN would be anywhere near the level of Captain America… (although there is probably a comic universe or two that weakened him incredibly).
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> If SPARTAN IV’s are demi gods, then Captain America is a Titan.

Umm…idk. Spartans can flip tanks like they were made of balsa wood. Even Cap would have to strain to pull off that feat. I will admit MJOLNIR at least doubles their strength (I’m not sure of Gen IIs capability or if the new SIV augmentations increase their base strength over SII or SIII protocols). I’d say they are equal (without armor, weapons or shields). At least Chief is anyway.

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> > Well, allow me to put your opinions to rest. No. Minus the designation of a supersoldier- Captain America and SPARTANs share no similarities whatsoever. The good Captain is so blantly superhuman (and I’m only referring to the Cinematic version) that he makes high-end SPARTAN II’s in armor look like SPARTAN IV’s without armor. The sheer differences are so great, but subtle, that its…extremely clever.
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> > As the most recent Civil War trailers show us, Captain America’s feats have increased to such a degree, that nothing short of another equally, powerful superhuman or outerworld entity (or Iron man) could possibly stand a chance in a one-on-one. With a top sprinting speed of no less then 42 miles per hour (it can go up as far as 72mph), a lifting capability that measures in the tens of tons (50+ for legs), his most recent durability feat is that 1.4 ton pull-exertion that he handled. Even with armor, no SPARTAN would be anywhere near the level of Captain America… (although there is probably a comic universe or two that weakened him incredibly).
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No, they can’t. The Spartans’ ability to flip tanks is a gameplay mechanics and nothing more.

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> > > > So, with Spartan IV’s being “demi-gods” as Buck calls them, comparing them to the II’s and III’s, where does that put them in relation to regular humans? Somewhere comparable to Captain America, who can bench somewhere around 1200 pounds? I’d love to see the stats on IV’s and how they stack up between the originals and humans. What do you guys think?
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> > > Well, allow me to put your opinions to rest. No. Minus the designation of a supersoldier- Captain America and SPARTANs share no similarities whatsoever. The good Captain is so blantly superhuman (and I’m only referring to the Cinematic version) that he makes high-end SPARTAN II’s in armor look like SPARTAN IV’s without armor. The sheer differences are so great, but subtle, that its…extremely clever.
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> > > As the most recent Civil War trailers show us, Captain America’s feats have increased to such a degree, that nothing short of another equally, powerful superhuman or outerworld entity (or Iron man) could possibly stand a chance in a one-on-one. With a top sprinting speed of no less then 42 miles per hour (it can go up as far as 72mph), a lifting capability that measures in the tens of tons (50+ for legs), his most recent durability feat is that 1.4 ton pull-exertion that he handled. Even with armor, no SPARTAN would be anywhere near the level of Captain America… (although there is probably a comic universe or two that weakened him incredibly).
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Agreed. It would be kinda freaky for spartans to be able to flip tanks, to be honest XD

A Spartan 2/3 should be far superior to Captain America (based on Cap’s designation as peak human), however as someone mentioned comic bullshittery amps him to ridiculous levels, how can Cross Bones and the Red Skull, pretty much just dudes, be your main villains and they can duke it out with you, then the next minute you are somehow fighting, surviving and freakishly winning against people of Namor’s stature? Stupid.

If Spartans were using the wacko-physics of the Marvel Universe I would put them on a Spiderman-manish level.

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> > As the most recent Civil War trailers show us, Captain America’s feats have increased to such a degree, that nothing short of another equally, powerful superhuman or outerworld entity (or Iron man) could possibly stand a chance in a one-on-one. With a top sprinting speed of no less then 42 miles per hour (it can go up as far as 72mph), a lifting capability that measures in the tens of tons (50+ for legs), his most recent durability feat is that 1.4 ton pull-exertion that he handled. Even with armor, no SPARTAN would be anywhere near the level of Captain America… (although there is probably a comic universe or two that weakened him incredibly).
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No, they can’t. It would be ground-breaking in everyway, with that kind of muscle, we’re talking about people who would literally be able to achieve earth-standard escape velocity with only their legs. Hell, that muscle would be probably be so dense that they would be bulletproof out of armor, in addition to being much more stronger then an equal sized limb made completely of CNTs.

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> A Spartan 2/3 should be far superior to Captain America (based on Cap’s designation as peak human), however as someone mentioned comic bullshittery amps him to ridiculous levels, how can Cross Bones and the Red Skull, pretty much just dudes, be your main villains and they can duke it out with you, then the next minute you are somehow fighting, surviving and freakishly winning against people of Namor’s stature? Stupid.
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> If Spartans were using the wacko-physics of the Marvel Universe I would put them on a Spiderman-manish level.

More like composite peak human…times 10.
No, Spartans would probably be your average shield field agent if they stepped into the Marvel universe.

So you are saying that Chief would not be able to keep a falcon from taking off?