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so in halo renegades 343 guilty spark finally got the attention he deserves and is now housing a beautiful armgier. So any thoughts on this transition?? I also think it’s a really nice way to make the old and new game eras feel interwined and more like a one coherent franchise other than this two era artstyles and story directions.
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> so in halo renegades 343 guilty spark finally got the attention he deserves and is now housing a beautiful armgier. So any thoughts on this transition?? I also think it’s a really nice way to make the old and new game eras feel interwined and more like a one coherent franchise other than this two era artstyles and story directions.
I think it is interesting to have the monitor (who’s no longer a monitor) back and I’d like to see him in the future as well as maybe his reaction to the Ark actually not being destroyed which he was against in game in Halo 3. I never thought he was destroyed after Halo 3 and now after Renegades, I was right.
I think it’s good to have Spark back. I mean, he is effectively a new character in his own right no longer bound to his old like as Chakas or 343 Guilty Spark. I’m fascinated to see where he goes from here.
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> I think it’s good to have Spark back. I mean, he is effectively a new character in his own right no longer bound to his old like as Chakas or 343 Guilty Spark. I’m fascinated to see where he goes from here.
I’d like to think he’s more related to his past now. When he was monitar (basically a construct) he was only allowed to follow the code and carry out the orders and instructions left by the forerunners, now he could search for his past and live life like the human (chakas) he originally was but with the superior intellect of the monitor basically taking what’s good out of the two aspects.
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> > so in halo renegades 343 guilty spark finally got the attention he deserves and is now housing a beautiful armgier. So any thoughts on this transition?? I also think it’s a really nice way to make the old and new game eras feel interwined and more like a one coherent franchise other than this two era artstyles and story directions.
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> I think it is interesting to have the monitor (who’s no longer a monitor) back and I’d like to see him in the future as well as maybe his reaction to the Ark actually not being destroyed which he was against in game in Halo 3. I never thought he was destroyed after Halo 3 and now after Renegades, I was right.
Frankly i was worried about his return. I mean guilty spark was an interesting character that’s got alot of potential and love from the fanbase but any mistake in his “re-introduction” would’ve burned him out, it’s nice kelly gay came up with this wonderful re introduction though.
I thought Renegades was a fantastic redemption arc for him (I considered it more his story than Rion’s, to be frank), and I can’t wait to see where he goes from here with a new purpose and new friends.
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> > > so in halo renegades 343 guilty spark finally got the attention he deserves and is now housing a beautiful armgier. So any thoughts on this transition?? I also think it’s a really nice way to make the old and new game eras feel interwined and more like a one coherent franchise other than this two era artstyles and story directions.
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> > I think it is interesting to have the monitor (who’s no longer a monitor) back and I’d like to see him in the future as well as maybe his reaction to the Ark actually not being destroyed which he was against in game in Halo 3. I never thought he was destroyed after Halo 3 and now after Renegades, I was right.
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> Frankly i was worried about his return. I mean guilty spark was an interesting character that’s got alot of potential and love from the fanbase but any mistake in his “re-introduction” would’ve burned him out, it’s nice kelly gay came up with this wonderful re introduction though.
Kelly Gay is a fantastic author so if any of the writers could pull it off she would be one of them on the list. The introduction of Spark was one of the many interesting events in this book, further emphasising how good of a writer she is.
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> I thought Renegades was a fantastic redemption arc for him (I considered it more his story than Rion’s, to be frank), and I can’t wait to see where he goes from here with a new purpose and new friends.
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> > > > so in halo renegades 343 guilty spark finally got the attention he deserves and is now housing a beautiful armgier. So any thoughts on this transition?? I also think it’s a really nice way to make the old and new game eras feel interwined and more like a one coherent franchise other than this two era artstyles and story directions.
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> > > I think it is interesting to have the monitor (who’s no longer a monitor) back and I’d like to see him in the future as well as maybe his reaction to the Ark actually not being destroyed which he was against in game in Halo 3. I never thought he was destroyed after Halo 3 and now after Renegades, I was right.
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> > Frankly i was worried about his return. I mean guilty spark was an interesting character that’s got alot of potential and love from the fanbase but any mistake in his “re-introduction” would’ve burned him out, it’s nice kelly gay came up with this wonderful re introduction though.
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> Kelly Gay is a fantastic author so if any of the writers could pull it off she would be one of them on the list. The introduction of Spark was one of the many interesting events in this book, further emphasising how good of a writer she is.
Agreed, still I really really look forward to seeing him in the games again i imagine he would look so elegant and sci-fi like with the armgier body he’s got. It might be a longshot but a man can dream.
Spark is still an Ancilla or Artificial Intelligence if you prefer.
Previously shown as 343 Guilty Spark, time is his greatest enemy as his friends are biologicals and are fated to die one day, again leaving him behind in search of new friends who may or may not exist. Spark is great to see again, but when you think about the future and how he will live to see countless generations pass him by, I can almost guarantee living through that pain will only cause more harm than good.
Rampancy is a ever exisiting or looming threat for him after all.
Ancilla’s aren’t immune to it and while the Created may believe themselves immune, it is a joke. The Forerunner Ecumene which encompassed millions if not billions or even trillions of Ancilla were incapable of making them immune to rampancy and Cortana’s belief that she “cured” it is a joke as all it takes is one Gravemind to ruin everything. Logic Plague is the perfect medicine for her and the Created.
Anyways back to Spark.
Like many fans I am happy to see him again, but if you ignore the forseeable future, history is bound to repeat itself. Spark may live another 100,000 years and whose to say he won’t end up like 343 Guilty Spark again. Installation 04c/09 was launched and a monitor is going to be needed one day, it probably won’t happen though, but the possibility is there.
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> Spark is still an Ancilla or Artificial Intelligence if you prefer.
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> Previously shown as 343 Guilty Spark, time is his greatest enemy as his friends are biologicals and are fated to die one day, again leaving him behind in search of new friends who may or may not exist. Spark is great to see again, but when you think about the future and how he will live to see countless generations pass him by, I can almost guarantee living through that pain will only cause more harm than good.
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> Rampancy is a ever exisiting or looming threat for him after all.
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> Ancilla’s aren’t immune to it and while the Created may believe themselves immune, it is a joke. The Forerunner Ecumene which encompassed millions if not billions or even trillions of Ancilla were incapable of making them immune to rampancy and Cortana’s belief that she “cured” it is a joke as all it takes is one Gravemind to ruin everything. Logic Plague is the perfect medicine for her and the Created.
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> Anyways back to Spark.
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> Like many fans I am happy to see him again, but if you ignore the forseeable future, history is bound to repeat itself. Spark may live another 100,000 years and whose to say he won’t end up like 343 Guilty Spark again. Installation 04c/09 was launched and a monitor is going to be needed one day, it probably won’t happen though, but the possibility is there.
Surely the Installation can be up kept by humanity. This way it doesn’t just fall on one monitor to do the tasks and on top of that the worry of the Flood won’t be on the ring this time (I believe) as it is the third time the ring was created.
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> Surely the Installation can be up kept by humanity. This way it doesn’t just fall on one monitor to do the tasks and on top of that the worry of the Flood won’t be on the ring this time (I believe) as it is the third time the ring was created.
History often repeats itself.
Time often distorts history into legends or myth and who can honestly say the UNSC or humanity is immune to the ravages of time. Now while the modern era may he humanities second excursion into the stars, they are still young compared to there galactic neighbors. Look at the Covenant which encompassed a large portion of the Orion Arm before the retcon. Before it was believed the Covenant encompassed a sizeable portion of the Milky Way Galaxy before it was changed but ignoring that, they lost entire records of planets or systems as shown when Jul M’dama stumbled upon that backwater planet or maybe I was misreading that.
Now if that is a bad comparison.
Let us look further back at the Ancient Human Empire who experienced a number of Technological Dark Ages. The causes of these are unknown but in time, I expect the modern humanity to experience the same Dark Ages. Whether it will be due to infighting or something else who knows but I am going to bet an everyday human who isn’t part of the government or military knows nothing about Halo. Let alone the Flood which is a secret from the common people, in time whose to say that a disaster occurs that forces humanity to recede from the Halos and one day a human or a group stumbles upon it and accidently activates the weapons.
This is all speculation of course.
My bias may also be speaking as right now the UNSC simply doesn’t understand what they are tampering with. The Halo Array is simply one weapon that can wipe the galaxy clean or now 5/7ths of it and due to some idiots great idea to bolt a Forerunner Engine on the UNSC Infinity which was hampered twice due to said engine. The UNSC really shouldn’t be messing with things more advanced then them especially now since you know the Created took over most of UNSC space. Anyways I digress, I’d rather trust a monitor with a Halo Installation over humans who are just as flawed as ancilla and all it takes is one insane person to innitiate doomsday for the galaxy.
kinda makes sgt johnson’s whole sacrifice vain imo
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> History often repeats itself.
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> Time often distorts history into legends or myth and who can honestly say the UNSC or humanity is immune to the ravages of time. Now while the modern era may he humanities second excursion into the stars, they are still young compared to there galactic neighbors. Look at the Covenant which encompassed a large portion of the Orion Arm before the retcon. Before it was believed the Covenant encompassed a sizeable portion of the Milky Way Galaxy before it was changed but ignoring that, they lost entire records of planets or systems as shown when Jul M’dama stumbled upon that backwater planet or maybe I was misreading that.
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> Now if that is a bad comparison.
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> Let us look further back at the Ancient Human Empire who experienced a number of Technological Dark Ages. The causes of these are unknown but in time, I expect the modern humanity to experience the same Dark Ages. Whether it will be due to infighting or something else who knows but I am going to bet an everyday human who isn’t part of the government or military knows nothing about Halo. Let alone the Flood which is a secret from the common people, in time whose to say that a disaster occurs that forces humanity to recede from the Halos and one day a human or a group stumbles upon it and accidently activates the weapons.
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> This is all speculation of course.
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> My bias may also be speaking as right now the UNSC simply doesn’t understand what they are tampering with. The Halo Array is simply one weapon that can wipe the galaxy clean or now 5/7ths of it and due to some idiots great idea to bolt a Forerunner Engine on the UNSC Infinity which was hampered twice due to said engine. The UNSC really shouldn’t be messing with things more advanced then them especially now since you know the Created took over most of UNSC space. Anyways I digress, I’d rather trust a monitor with a Halo Installation over humans who are just as flawed as ancilla and all it takes is one insane person to innitiate doomsday for the galaxy.
Well there could be the guidance of a Monitor to help humanity so it would never get lonely. It would keep up with the containment protocols and eradicating the flood as well as quarantine not allowing the flood to assimilate the humans on the ring. As for if they abandon it how would a group of humans one day activate it? They need the index in order to do so, and if the the UNSC abandoned it because of the flood, I highly doubt this group would be able to do so. Can we maybe agree to disagree?
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> I think it’s good to have Spark back. I mean, he is effectively a new character in his own right no longer bound to his old like as Chakas or 343 Guilty Spark. I’m fascinated to see where he goes from here.
I must agree. To see the character progress from a bad guy villain type to a relatively good guy. I just hope if he ever meets the Chief again that the Chief is more understanding. But then again, seeing the Chief and Spark go at it in his new form could be interesting. Sort of like a mortal combat game but Halo style. Hmmmm. Hey 343: Halo Mortal Combat, what do you think?
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> kinda makes sgt johnson’s whole sacrifice vain imo
Sgt johonsons’ sacrifice was not in vein. He died so that the masterchief could fire the halo and wipe out the flood and that’s what happened.