It just occurred to me that i have never seen a UNSC Broadsword/Sabre use an Ejection system.
A Modern Military wouldn’t even think of using a fighter jet if the Pilot had no means of escaping the aircraft, so why is space special? UNSC pilots must be crazy if they’re willing to go on a one-way trip into space to dogfight.
but then i think,“UNSC Starfighters must have some kind of pilot rescue system”. Granted, an ejection system may have questionable results, considering the covenant’s brutality in combat, but if it has a chance of helping the pilot, by all means, add it.
But how would it work? Gravity doesn’t work in space, and the lack of anything in space means that launching the pilot by himself into space would mean a very violent death, as even if their suit can withstand the vacuum, there’s a battle going on around them, and since there’s no gravity to pull them down, they’re screwed. So there must be some kind of mini-pod or something that launches from the fighter, right?
But what if the cockpit it damaged? there goes your pressure stability. If a Fighter pilot in Halo looks like this, then they may be able to survive space itself, but they have no means of getting to safety even if they were ejected. Surely Human pilots in this age of time can’t be this stupidly brave, and surely, the UNSC, which has taken enough casualties already, wants even more by allowing their highly-trained pilots die in space with no assistance.
Thoughts?
i’ll be very peeved if one of the books explains this, because have never read a halo book, but i really want to
This is the same military that uses CNT tires on their recon vehicles but don’t bother to give their troops CNT armor, don’t expect them to care about the lives of their troops. Cheap is best when it comes to the UNSC (and most military’s in general, though the UNSC takes it to a new low).
Btw, the Broadsword and Sabre haven’t appeared in any Halo novels so far, so no worries. Though you’re right about UNSC pilots, they’ve got to be pretty crazy to fly those fighters knowing the smallest crack in their cockpit means certain death.
Perhaps the BSG reboot could provide a reasonable base for UNSC pilot gear & ejections.
BSG also based the human military functions & armament similar to modern military, and the Viper & Raptor flight suits don’t look too different from the UNSC photo you posted.
> Perhaps the BSG reboot could provide a reasonable base for UNSC pilot gear & ejections.
> BSG also based the human military functions & armament similar to modern military, and the Viper & Raptor flight suits don’t look too different from the UNSC photo you posted.
How does it work in Battlestar? I don’t watch the show.
They can make diamond-woven bodyarmour but you don’t believe a suit capable of protecting a pilot in space can be made without bulky components?
It is likely the cockpits themselves are ejection capsules as whether a suit is protecting the pilots or not, the capsule is better protection from debris and radiation than an unshielded suit. It can also house larger powersupplies for communication, thermal regulation and rebreathers.
Just because we haven’t seen an ejection system used during two of probably the most crucial battles in our futurestory, doesn’t mean the crafts don’t have any type of ejection system.
Think about the situational difference between knowing you may be rescued from a battle you may win, and knowing the best you can do is buy those on the ground time and hope a few make it out alive.
Pilots want to live but they’re already crazy for being a pilot in the first place. They want to die living under their standards and when it’s the future of humanity on the line, everything they do to keep us alive lives on as long as we live on.
> Btw, the Broadsword and Sabre haven’t appeared in any Halo novels so far, so no worries. Though you’re right about UNSC pilots, they’ve got to be pretty crazy to fly those fighters knowing the smallest crack in their cockpit means certain death.
one of my biggest phobias about discussion lore is someone going “Nope, (insert book name here) book says differently”
> 1) They can make diamond-woven bodyarmour but you don’t believe a suit capable of protecting a pilot in space can be made without bulky components?
A pilot’s suit can withstand being shot at by plasma cannons from a Seraph? or being hit by one for that matter?
my concern is not that the pilot’s can’t survive in space for some time, my concern here is that the pilots have no effective means of protecting themselves form the battle going on around them.
> my concern is not that the pilot’s can’t survive in space for some time
Actually that should be a huge concern. Once in vacuum, even assuming that flimsy suit the pilot is wearing is vacuum proof, he doesn’t have an oxygen tank and will asphyxiate in minutes. The battle is really the least of his concerns since space battles in Halo stretch over an enormous area (thousands of kilometers) and most fighters won’t even bother shooting him since they know he’s going to have a slow agonizing death.
> A pilot’s suit can withstand being shot at by plasma cannons from a Seraph? or being hit by one for that matter?
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> my concern is not that the pilot’s can’t survive in space for some time, my concern here is that the pilots have no effective means of protecting themselves form the battle going on around them.
I don’t understand your concern, you wish for something as robust as the vehicle a pilot just lost to encase the pilot a second time like suit of MJOLNIR armour, which can’t take a direct hit from a Seraph itself in the first place?
> That’s nothing new. Ejecting from a plane and deploying a parachute gives you no effective means of protection either.
While other planes, anti-air frak and battle shrapnel will eat the para-dropping soldier, the parachute does indeed protect you from gravity’s full pull
Which is the intent of an pilot’s exosuit. If the cockpit capsule is ruptured, they have a hermetically sealed skin which prevents their actual skill from exposure to extreme low pressure and heat loss (one can actually overheat in space due to radiation being the only means of heat regulation, and it’s incoming more than it’s outgoing).
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> I don’t understand your concern, you wish for something as robust as the vehicle a pilot just lost to encase the pilot a second time like suit of MJOLNIR armour, which can’t take a direct hit from a Seraph itself in the first place?
what i’m saying is, ejecting the pilot alone, like a modern fighter jet, would be pointless, because A) Space, and because B) Covenant.
my question here is if the pilot alone is ejected, how would that play out?
it would make a lot more sense to have a mini-pod/capsule eject from the craft, but the size of a Broadsword makes me think that a pod may be too expensive or that the Broadsword may not have enough room to contain a pod.
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> it would make a lot more sense to have a mini-pod/capsule eject from the craft, but the size of a Broadsword makes me think that a pod may be too expensive or that the Broadsword may not have enough room to contain a pod.
It would matter to have the Pilot escape if need be seeing as how they are valuable, especially if piloted by a Spartan.
I would think the Broadsword could hold a pod, it is almost the same size as a Pelican.
modern militaries haves search and rescue aircraft to locate downed pilots. It would make sense oif the UNSC had that in the form of a pelican or something. I would imagine that there is no pod in the fighter (so sealed suits are a must have). To prevent the pilot from going off into space, I can think of a likely idea. The most likely is that the ejection seat has some form of thruster system (like a reentry, jet, or thruster pack), and the pilot can maneuver his or herself to a search and rescue ship, installation, capital ship. There is also speculation that reentry packs have shields, so if all that tech is incorporated into the seat, the pilot has limited protection, and a way to get to safety. Not much fuel would be needed because there isn’t any resistance in space (so short bursts). Pilots today are hugely expensive to train, and probably doubly so in the UNSC; so they would definetly want ha way t recover pilots. I believe that this would apply to Pelicans, darters, condors, longswords, broadswords and other comparable ships.
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> it would make a lot more sense to have a mini-pod/capsule eject from the craft, but the size of a Broadsword makes me think that a pod may be too expensive or that the Broadsword may not have enough room to contain a pod.
Pod doesn’t fix covenant, it just gives them a bigger target to shoot.
