Sort out Infection!

1.What we want.

2. What we don’t want under any circumstances.
3. What I personally want :slight_smile:

WHAT WE WANT

1. Community maps, There’s loads out there, we all know that, so why not test some out in a “Community Infection” playlist?

2. Bulltrue glitch fixed. Most. Annoying. Thing. Ever. If I get a Bulltrue, I shouldn’t die. End of story.

3. Proper zombie choosing. Either:

-4 rounds, 3 zombies in each.

-3 rounds, 4 zombies in each (my preferred choice).

4. New varieties of Infection. I’ve outlined some POSSIBILITIES in the “What I Personally Want” section.

5. More points for Zombies killing humans than humans killing zombies - should be obvious why.

6. If mmmm…Brains and Thriller are unobtainable, take them out of matchmaking…

7. Betrayal booting for Human-Human if bulltrue betrayal glitch is unfixable (the glitch is zombie-zombie betrayals).

WHAT WE DON’T WANT

1. A DMR. Why not just make the humans invincible and be done with it?

2. You to leave everything the way it is and ignore the community.

3. Infinite ammo. Spamming wildly every kill will not enhance infection in any way.

4. BTB maps. Why? cough cough magnum * humans grouping together * cough cough * open space * cough* rage quitting * cough *(takes cough medicine).

5. Original Infection to return. Alpha Zombies is far more popular.

WHAT I WANT (My thoughts put down purely for lol’s and opinions)

1. Varieties of Infection: (In all humans have sprint and zombies have swords)

-Sniping Dead (Alpha Zombies with snipers only, 30 bullets, 50% zombie speed, zombies with Armour Lock and shields).

-One In The Chamber (Alpha Zombies with a choice of Magnum / Shotgun loadouts, double ammo for chosen weapon).

-Frantic (Alpha Zombies, humans have concussion rifles, zombies have 150% movement speed).

Thoughts?

Sorry but Number 6?

A medal can NOT be removed and it WONT be removed, people play Custom Games believe it or not were it IS possible to gain it.

I stopped reading after that.

> Sorry but Number 6?
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> A medal can NOT be removed and it WONT be removed, people play Custom Games believe it or not were it IS possible to gain it.
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> I stopped reading after that.

> Sorry but Number 6?
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> A medal can NOT be removed and it WONT be removed, people play Custom Games believe it or not were it IS possible to gain it.
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> I stopped reading after that.

out of matchmaking

> > Sorry but Number 6?
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> > A medal can NOT be removed and it WONT be removed, people play Custom Games believe it or not were it IS possible to gain it.
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> > I stopped reading after that.
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> out of matchmaking

How do you propose them removing a medal from Matchmaking? That makes no sense.

> > > Sorry but Number 6?
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> > > A medal can NOT be removed and it WONT be removed, people play Custom Games believe it or not were it IS possible to gain it.
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> > > I stopped reading after that.
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> > out of matchmaking
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> How do you propose them removing a medal from Matchmaking? That makes no sense.

Fair enough, I just think it should at least be possible to get in a “One zombie against the world” playlist. Actually, I might include that…

> > > > Sorry but Number 6?
> > > >
> > > > A medal can NOT be removed and it WONT be removed, people play Custom Games believe it or not were it IS possible to gain it.
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> > > > I stopped reading after that.
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> > > out of matchmaking
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> > How do you propose them removing a medal from Matchmaking? That makes no sense.
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> Fair enough, I just think it should at least be possible to get in a “One zombie against the world” playlist. Actually, I might include that…

Ermmm, WHAT?

You have lost me completely right now.

> > > > > Sorry but Number 6?
> > > > >
> > > > > A medal can NOT be removed and it WONT be removed, people play Custom Games believe it or not were it IS possible to gain it.
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> > > > > I stopped reading after that.
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> > > > out of matchmaking
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> > > How do you propose them removing a medal from Matchmaking? That makes no sense.
> >
> > Fair enough, I just think it should at least be possible to get in a “One zombie against the world” playlist. Actually, I might include that…
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> Ermmm, WHAT?
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> You have lost me completely right now.

One zombie, with overshields and 200% movement speed for first life only. Would certainly provide lulz anyway :smiley:

> > > > > > Sorry but Number 6?
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> > > > > > A medal can NOT be removed and it WONT be removed, people play Custom Games believe it or not were it IS possible to gain it.
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> > > > > > I stopped reading after that.
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> > > > > out of matchmaking
> > > >
> > > > How do you propose them removing a medal from Matchmaking? That makes no sense.
> > >
> > > Fair enough, I just think it should at least be possible to get in a “One zombie against the world” playlist. Actually, I might include that…
> >
> > Ermmm, WHAT?
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> > You have lost me completely right now.
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> One zombie, with overshields and 200% movement speed for first life only. Would certainly provide lulz anyway :smiley:

Something like that if it was somehow possible to put in Action Sack would provide some fun, in regular Living Dead, I wouldn’t like or want it.

I want Speed Demons back it was so much fun.

> I want Speed Demons back it was so much fun.

Wasn’t that were the Zombies had Hammers, Swords and had full camo?

That was so unfair to the Humans, if I am right it got removed from Halo 3?

i mean WTF i play as a zombie for the whole game!plz fix this in the TU please.

> > I want Speed Demons back it was so much fun.
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> Wasn’t that were the Zombies had Hammers, Swords and had full camo?
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> That was so unfair to the Humans, if I am right it got removed from Halo 3?

No, the zombies had a grav hammer and a sword with like 300% speed with no shields and the survivors had the BR and shot gun, that sounds pretty balanced to me.

> There’s quite a few things that need to be fixed with infection:
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> - Removed boxed maps, add community maps specifically made for LD.
> - Change up the point system (Humans get 1 point per kill, Zombies get 3 points per kill)
> - 3 rounds of 4 unique zombies OR 4 rounds of 3 unique zombies so the point spreads can be fair (unlike someone get zombie all 3 rounds)
> - Fix the betrayal glitch when a human kills a zombie
> - Add loadouts (Sprint OR Evade)
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> The reason I scream for the loadouts is because Swordbase bottom red lift room camping was not bad until Evade was taken away. Then it because a campers fest. The Cage needs to be removed and replace with Uncaged to at least allow an additional route toward the top of the cage and to allow the middle entrance from the bottom of cage to be more accessible.

I think the betrayal glitch happens because of the timing on the kill. I’ve noticed that when it happens to me, it’s always in an instance of me and the zombie killing each other. I think maybe that the infection takes place just a tiny little bit of an instant before the shotgun/pistol kill, so the game recognizes the human as a zombie with a gun. I could be wrong, I’m by no means a software expert, but that’s all I can think of.

lollLivingdeadkids

Now Infection, that was something to brag about. lollivingdead cannot compare.

agreed my good man. It is too boring. I want fun Community Maps now!

> We need DEDICATED Infection maps. Not just default maps with “lol killzones everywhere.”
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> Hopefully this will be one of the things 343i addresses. I love Infection, but I am really sick of playing Sword Base NINETEEN TIMES IN A ROW. COME ON.
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> And if it’s not Sword Base, it’s The Cage, which is even worse, since it’s so big and open, the zombies barely have a chance to infect anybody.
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> I betray the people who camp the lift corridor in Sword Base. If there’s a big group of people in there, I will just betray every single one of them. I’m not against camping, but that’s completely against the spirit of the game and is abusing a broken system. JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED.

You’re the kind of person that makes an otherwise fun game an immediate buzzkill. I and thousands of others are tired of your self-righteous -Yoink!- betraying us, whether because you’re an idiot or from some misplaced sense of justice. Justice? IT’S JUST A VIDEO GAME. Look back on Page 1 at what iRhinooo said about a zombie attack IRL: you’re going to want to find a safe place to hole up and hope the zombies don’t rush you all at once. My only regret is that I’m not an Xbox Live technician, because I’d be abusing the -Yoink- out of my job and terminating the account of any betrayer.

> You still haven’t took my point down…Camping dousn’t hurt anyone. The zombies win like 90% of the time anyway.

Someone raised this point in Optimatch a while ago. Here’s what I said to them:

> Posted by: DavidJCobb
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> > Posted by: WFO x SnakeEyes
> > Exactly. The game plays like it’s supposed to…humans have the initial advantage and as the game goes on the zombies numbers increase and they gain the upper hand until they steamroll over the remaining humans.
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> Possible =/= Balanced.
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> Nearly every single map has ridiculously-imbalanced camping spots. It doesn’t matter that the Zombies can eventually overcome (some of) them. What matters is that these spots take significantly more skill to attack than they do to defend; they are blatantly imbalanced and favor one team.
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> The Zombies’ victories are Pyrrhic at best. They may manage to kill the Last Man Standing, but the amount of frustration they have to endure makes that victory worthless.

> > I betray the people who camp the lift corridor in Sword Base. If there’s a big group of people in there, I will just betray every single one of them. I’m not against camping, but that’s completely against the spirit of the game and is abusing a broken system. JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED.
>
> You’re the kind of person that makes an otherwise fun game an immediate buzzkill. I and thousands of others are tired of your self-righteous -Yoink!- betraying us, whether because you’re an idiot or from some misplaced sense of justice. Justice? IT’S JUST A VIDEO GAME. Look back on Page 1 at what iRhinooo said about a zombie attack IRL: you’re going to want to find a safe place to hole up and hope the zombies don’t rush you all at once. My only regret is that I’m not an Xbox Live technician, because I’d be abusing the Yoink! out of my job and terminating the account of any betrayer.

You’re just angry because people like him stop you from boosting your K/D with broken gameplay.

Stop griefing the Zombies and your fellow Humans will stop griefing you.

> > > I betray the people who camp the lift corridor in Sword Base. If there’s a big group of people in there, I will just betray every single one of them. I’m not against camping, but that’s completely against the spirit of the game and is abusing a broken system. JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED.
> >
> > You’re the kind of person that makes an otherwise fun game an immediate buzzkill. I and thousands of others are tired of your self-righteous -Yoink!- betraying us, whether because you’re an idiot or from some misplaced sense of justice. Justice? IT’S JUST A VIDEO GAME. Look back on Page 1 at what iRhinooo said about a zombie attack IRL: you’re going to want to find a safe place to hole up and hope the zombies don’t rush you all at once. My only regret is that I’m not an Xbox Live technician, because I’d be abusing the Yoink! out of my job and terminating the account of any betrayer.
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> You’re just angry because people like him stop you from boosting your K/D with broken gameplay.

I don’t care about my K/D spread, if I did then I wouldn’t be playing Infection. I only play Infection because it’s a gametype that I like. And the gameplay isn’t broken–everything in the software functions as it was programmed to. Don’t blame survival tactics on how a map is built or how the human team uses the map to their advantage. As it’s already been pointed out, the objective of humans in the middle of an outbreak IS TO SURVIVE. And if that means putting their backs against the wall, well then I guess the zombies are just going to have to (gasp!) WORK TOGETHER until the humans run out of ammo or are overrun. Also, don’t be an idiot–I’m not griefing the zombies, I’m playing according the objectives of the gametype. That means killing them when they come for me. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=griefing As you can see, killing the opposing team does not fall under the definition for “griefing.”