Something That May Have Been Overlooked

I was wondering today, with it becoming more and more common with other games, do you think that Halo 4 and its sequels will have an online pass? Personally I think that the idea of the pass is becoming a cancer in the games industry.

Thoughts?

Halo isn’t the type of game for online passes. The only thing that will continue is playlists that require all DLC.

343 isn’t that stupid. But if an Online Pass system does reach Halo, it will be Microsoft’s doing, not 343’s. If the game is as good as it looks (judging just from concept art), I’d pay for an Online Pass any day.

But I doubt it will show up.

Well if it’s anything like MK9’s pass, it will come with a new copy of the game, so it won’t matter. If it doesn’t I am not buying it, I always buy halos for the campaign anyways.

Microsoft would actually have to be brain damaged to include them. You already have to pay for Xbox Live, adding online passes would just be stupid. Hell, even if Live was free they’d still be stupid.

> Microsoft would actually have to be brain damaged to include them. You already have to pay for Xbox Live, adding online passes would just be stupid. Hell, even if Live was free they’d still be stupid.

There’s a lot of stupid people in the world. You never know what they might want to do.

> 343 isn’t that stupid. But if an Online Pass system does reach Halo, it will be Microsoft’s doing, not 343’s. If the game is as good as it looks (judging just from concept art), I’d pay for an Online Pass any day.
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> But I doubt it will show up.

so if the pass came out right now you would buy it?

Lol, we know nothing about this game, and you would randomly buy -Yoink- like that?

Won’t happen. Microsoft wouldn’t do that with their flagship title, and they understand that the quality of matchmaking is relative to quantity of the population.

XBL gold is pretty much the equivalent of a Halo online pass.

Having a season pass deal for DLC, however, I think would be a good idea.

> Won’t happen. Microsoft wouldn’t do that with their flagship title, and they understand that the quality of matchmaking is relative to quantity of the population.
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> XBL gold is pretty much the equivalent of a Halo online pass.
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> Having a season pass deal for DLC, however, I think would be a good idea.

Don’t give them any ideas.

Online passes are only bad for those cheap types that wait 2 years for a game to get old, then buy it used for 15$. To be honest, I don’t mind punishing the penny pinchers.

> Don’t give them any ideas.

I don’t understand. Whats wrong with discounting all forthcoming DLC maps as a bundle? I plan on keeping the game updated anyway, what’s wrong with saving a few bucks?

I’d actually buy an LE release if future DLC was included.

Considering Halo is published by Microsoft directly, I highly doubt it will have such a thing.

> Online passes are only bad for those cheap types that wait 2 years for a game to get old, then buy it used for 15$. To be honest, I don’t mind punishing the penny pinchers.

Actually, a lot of these online passes have been punishing the people who buy the game new, as well. That’s what people are mad about. They often have severe problems and some sometimes don’t work at all. It’s a system that’s marketed as being used to discourage renting or buying used games that has backfired on many occasions, and ultimately is about the prophet, nothing more. It’s like Origin, in that regard.

> Online passes are only bad for those cheap types that wait 2 years for a game to get old, then buy it used for 15$. To be honest, I don’t mind punishing the penny pinchers.

Online passes are bad for everyone; the only thing they do is stop people from playing. Having a healthy population is everything when it comes to online gaming.

I highly doubt Halo will ever require an online pass.

> Online passes are only bad for those cheap types that wait 2 years for a game to get old, then buy it used for 15$. To be honest, I don’t mind punishing the penny pinchers.

Online passes are bad for everyone. The buyers of new and old games, the retailers, the publishers and the developers.

We already pay for Xbox LIVE’s Matchmaking service. An online pass would probably be beyond 343i’s control, meaning MGS (Microsoft Game Studios) would have to have it implemented. Which would make little sense, as it would draw from the player base, when they could increase the cost of Xbox LIVE Gold, without that drawback.

> I was wondering today, with it becoming more and more common with other games, do you think that Halo 4 and its sequels will have an online pass? Personally I think that the idea of the pass is becoming a cancer in the games industry.
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> Thoughts?

Gmaes with an online pass are generally the ones with dedicated servers (like BF3). if you borrowed BF3 and played it online W/O needing a pass, DICE would lose money, because you are playing on their servers but didn’t make any money from you, to pay for it.

Halo’s Multiplayer is Peer-to-Peer. it requires 1 person to be the host, everyone jumps onto that connection, and you play. No dedicated servers needed.

> Won’t happen. Microsoft wouldn’t do that with their flagship title, and they understand that the quality of matchmaking is relative to quantity of the population.
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> XBL gold is pretty much the equivalent of a Halo online pass.
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> Having a season pass deal for DLC, however, I think would be a good idea.

coughGears of war 3 already does thatcough

> Microsoft would actually have to be brain damaged to include them. You already have to pay for Xbox Live, adding online passes would just be stupid. Hell, even if Live was free they’d still be stupid.

agreed