With the DMR’s high rate of fire , a friend of mine told me :
‘‘What if the DMR was a 6SK ? With a high rate of fire like it has , it would still be good , but not overpowered like some people say it is and be balanced.’’
What do you guys think ?
I think it’s magazine size should be lowered to 12, and it’s reload time increased by 0.3 seconds.
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I really need to start reading all the options before I vote. I love it when there’s an option like “I like turtles.”
I think it should have a high increase bloom rate to encourage pacing. Increase the max bloom size and spamming won’t be a viable option.
Then add bloom to the BR!
> I think it should have a high increase bloom rate to encourage pacing. Increase the max bloom size and spamming won’t be a viable option.
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> Then add bloom to the BR!
No.
> > I think it should have a high increase bloom rate to encourage pacing. Increase the max bloom size and spamming won’t be a viable option.
> >
> > Then add bloom to the BR!
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> No.
Compelling rebuttal. I obviously have no choice but to change my opinion…
> I think it should have a high increase bloom rate to encourage pacing. Increase the max bloom size and spamming won’t be a viable option.
>
> Then add bloom to the BR!
Eh, no thanks. Bloom can be done right, but I just plain don’t like it. Recoil seems like a good enough balancing mechanic for the BR.
> I think it’s magazine size should be lowered to 12, and it’s reload time increased by 0.3 seconds.
Reload time is ok in my opinion .
If the mag size is lowered to 12 , it should be ok cause it would have the same number of shots as the Battle Rifle . So I agree with you .
But the idea of turning the DMR into a 6SK is still really interesting , especially with the ‘‘HUGE’’ nerf the BR has. Note that I love the Battle Rifle and I think it’s still a great weapon , I’m just saying for those that are still complaining about it.
> > > I think it should have a high increase bloom rate to encourage pacing. Increase the max bloom size and spamming won’t be a viable option.
> > >
> > > Then add bloom to the BR!
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> > No.
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> Compelling rebuttal. I obviously have no choice but to change my opinion…
Oh no, the daring combo. Neo Kaiser and Bloom…
I’d buff the BR and Carbine and keep the DMR the same. Carbine should have stayed 7 shot and the BR shouldn’t have recoil…
> > > > I think it should have a high increase bloom rate to encourage pacing. Increase the max bloom size and spamming won’t be a viable option.
> > > >
> > > > Then add bloom to the BR!
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > Compelling rebuttal. I obviously have no choice but to change my opinion…
>
> Oh no, the daring combo. Neo Kaiser and Bloom…
>
> I’d buff the BR and Carbine and keep the DMR the same. Carbine should have stayed 7 shot and the BR shouldn’t have recoil…
Forgot about that lol . You are right.
> > > > I think it should have a high increase bloom rate to encourage pacing. Increase the max bloom size and spamming won’t be a viable option.
> > > >
> > > > Then add bloom to the BR!
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > Compelling rebuttal. I obviously have no choice but to change my opinion…
>
> Oh no, the daring combo. Neo Kaiser and Bloom…
>
> I’d buff the BR and Carbine and keep the DMR the same. Carbine should have stayed 7 shot and the BR shouldn’t have recoil…
Yeah, it is rather daring to talk about bloom in a positive light when several people have such irrational hate for it.
> > > > > I think it should have a high increase bloom rate to encourage pacing. Increase the max bloom size and spamming won’t be a viable option.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then add bloom to the BR!
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > >
> > > Compelling rebuttal. I obviously have no choice but to change my opinion…
> >
> > Oh no, the daring combo. Neo Kaiser and Bloom…
> >
> > I’d buff the BR and Carbine and keep the DMR the same. Carbine should have stayed 7 shot and the BR shouldn’t have recoil…
>
> Forgot about that lol . You are right.
Yeh the BR is already worse because of the slowest kill time, and the Carbine is hardest to kill with because every shot has to hit. Yet it still has a lower kill time than the DMR with 8 shots to kill.
> > > > > I think it should have a high increase bloom rate to encourage pacing. Increase the max bloom size and spamming won’t be a viable option.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then add bloom to the BR!
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > >
> > > Compelling rebuttal. I obviously have no choice but to change my opinion…
> >
> > Oh no, the daring combo. Neo Kaiser and Bloom…
> >
> > I’d buff the BR and Carbine and keep the DMR the same. Carbine should have stayed 7 shot and the BR shouldn’t have recoil…
>
> Yeah, it is rather daring to talk about bloom in a positive light when several people have such irrational hate for it.
There’s bloom in Halo 4? Pre-order cancelled! Again!
> > > > > I think it should have a high increase bloom rate to encourage pacing. Increase the max bloom size and spamming won’t be a viable option.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then add bloom to the BR!
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > >
> > > Compelling rebuttal. I obviously have no choice but to change my opinion…
> >
> > Oh no, the daring combo. Neo Kaiser and Bloom…
> >
> > I’d buff the BR and Carbine and keep the DMR the same. Carbine should have stayed 7 shot and the BR shouldn’t have recoil…
>
> Yeah, it is rather daring to talk about bloom in a positive light when several people have such irrational hate for it.
Aww I was just trying to make a funny… I respect your opinion but don’t understand it. I will never support bloom ever. It haunted me in Reach and I can’t play Team Slayer without complaining about it. Just glad it was put down so much in Halo 4.
As far as I know , Bloom was made to prevent weapon spamming . But here’s the thing ,
in Reach , it was terribly made , it was pretty much like rolling a dice , a luck game , unless you want to be as slow as a turtle and take your time at pacing your shots.
With the Reach Title Update , Bloom really turned into what it should have been from start , if you start spamming like crazy , you get punished , but it wasn’t that bad and was good . In Halo 4 from what I’ve noticed , it’s just there for show , just like the Zero Bloom settings in Reach , that makes the DMR and especially the Magnum , overpowered agains’t other weapons like the Needle Rifle , Assault Rifle .
So in the end , if they can , add a tiny bit of bloom on the DMR , maybe not as much as the TUed DMR in Reach , but just a little bit just so it’s not a spamming anymore like it is right now.
> As far as I know , Bloom was made to prevent weapon spamming . But here’s the thing ,
> in Reach , it was terribly made , it was pretty much like rolling a dice , a luck game , unless you want to be as slow as a turtle and take your time at pacing your shots.
> With the Reach Title Update , Bloom really turned into what it should have been from start , if you start spamming like crazy , you get punished , but it wasn’t that bad and was good . In Halo 4 from what I’ve noticed , it’s just there for show , just like the Zero Bloom settings in Reach , that makes the DMR and especially the Magnum , overpowered agains’t other weapons like the Needle Rifle , Assault Rifle .
>
> So in the end , if they can , add a tiny bit of bloom on the DMR , maybe not as much as the TUed DMR in Reach , but just a little bit just so it’s not a spamming anymore like it is right now.
There’s a tiny bit of bloom like you said. If you spam the trigger at a medium distance the last shot might not hit.
The weapons are fine.
> Aww I was just trying to make a funny… I respect your opinion but don’t understand it. I will never support bloom ever. It haunted me in Reach and I can’t play Team Slayer without complaining about it. Just glad it was put down so much in Halo 4.
A simple understandment is that it puts more emphasis on shooting rather then movement, whie encouraging patience and clear thinking. If there’s one thing I think gamers today need more of is patience.
A bad example can ruin the experience. I get that. But the bloom problem was mainly centered around the DMR. Less so for the AR, NR or even Magnum.
I’m sure you can have a much positive attitude over the subject if you played better examples. Give Gears of War 3 a try without using the shotguns, try mainly using the Retro Lancer. Give Space Marine a go, where the bloom is so fast on the stronger precision weapons that the next shot is a gaurenteed miss. Even Mass Effect 3 needs pacing, which you can lower the bloom rate when behind cover.
Hell, give Borderlands 2 a try without using ironsights. You pretty much need to pace every single shot, especially since the aim assist is so low when firing from the hip.
> > As far as I know , Bloom was made to prevent weapon spamming . But here’s the thing ,
> > in Reach , it was terribly made , it was pretty much like rolling a dice , a luck game , unless you want to be as slow as a turtle and take your time at pacing your shots.
> > With the Reach Title Update , Bloom really turned into what it should have been from start , if you start spamming like crazy , you get punished , but it wasn’t that bad and was good . In Halo 4 from what I’ve noticed , it’s just there for show , just like the Zero Bloom settings in Reach , that makes the DMR and especially the Magnum , overpowered agains’t other weapons like the Needle Rifle , Assault Rifle .
> >
> > So in the end , if they can , add a tiny bit of bloom on the DMR , maybe not as much as the TUed DMR in Reach , but just a little bit just so it’s not a spamming anymore like it is right now.
>
> There’s a tiny bit of bloom like you said. If you spam the trigger at a medium distance the last shot might not hit.
I know there is , but if you look in Halo 4 , Bloom doesn’t go outside the main reticle, I don’t know how to explain that but in Reach if you spam , Bloom starts to go outside the main reticle and that’s where pacing your shots comes in .
That’s what I mean , it should go out the main reticle , but a tiny bit just so it doesn’t turn into a nightmare again.