Some improvements 343 could make!

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This is going to be lengthy, so for those about to endeavor into the black hole I call a forum post, I salute you (TL;DR provided at end). I have been playing Halo all of my life, and I have an emotional connection to it that I don’t have with any other game, It has a special place in my heart. You have done a great job with what you were given, it is nearly impossible to satisfy an entire fanbase for something as large as halo, and seeing you continue to improve halo 5 well beyond its release is fantastic to see. These will be a few things that I think you could incorporate that would make halo 6 be a game that could rival even the first trilogy (as far as campaign goes). This is more for me to think out loud, seeing as how this won’t get noticed by 343i :slight_smile:

First off, Music. This is SOOOO important to many people like me who need to feel the emotion while playing. I felt like a bad *** at all the right times in the original trilogy, and also felt the sadness and seriousness when I was supposed to. The music is so important to this! I think along with a few adjustments to the music style now, the only thing I would touch is the volume. This is very noticeable in halo 4. My FAVORITE song from the halo soundtracks (besides under cover of night) is “Arrival” in halo 4. Pre-release, that song singlehandedly would get me juiced for halo 4. But when I played the campaign, the music was so quiet! that song came on at the perfect moment, but I could not enjoy it. You made such a beautiful blend of badassery and emotion into one song and then let it sit in the background. Please make music more of a focus in H6.

Next is keep the extended universe to a minimum please! I didn’t read any halo novels until after I completed the original trilogy and everything there was what I needed to know. I felt like the characters mattered, and they were all so cool and real. I come in to halo 5 and IDK what is even going on, like who the hell is this squad and why do I care? Buck is the only person who I was able to even recognize and relate to. Locke was so underdeveloped within the game, and that left a bad taste in the mouth. I don’t want to have to spend a ton of time outside of the game to understand why I’m shooting. Just include a better narrative with the characters please!

Also side note, please remove the squad system. I know that you want to introduce new things to the game, and i applaud you for being courageous enough to try, but your current campaign style just doesn’t go with the halo games.
And this last one is something that I have missed so much: REWARDING armor. Make us WORK for our armor, not just randomly give it out. H3 armor was so cool to me, and having to get achievements for armor made me invest so much time into the game, and I loved every second. The hayabusa armor baby let me tell you what I was the flyest 12 year old in the world. And the vid master MY GOD the vidmasters. I loved it and I know a lot of the community did too. Make it so that it isn’t just head torso and legs. Add back in arms shoulders. I just want to get lost in the game looking for all of its little intricacies, and I can’t really do that with these new halos.

I am prob the only one that wants this but… BRING BACK THE FLOOD PLEASE. They added so much depth and importance to your actions. They were a threat to the whole galaxy, and they were so freaky I loved it. Such a good enemy. It just doesn’t feel like halo without them.
A fist fight scene with chief. The halo 5 one was disappointing. It seemed slow and not like a supersoldier was throwing a punch. Ever move was telegraphed and easy to dodge. I want to see chief, the man who saved the f****** universe kick someones buttcheeks.

Make the game rated M again, I want blood like the old days. Shoot an enemy, blood comes out. Simple.
Finally, make your marketing campaign as epic, emotional, and gritty as halo 3’s. When i see starry night to this day I die a little inside, and I get goosebumps. It was such a genius campaign, I want to feel that way for halo 6 so bad, I really do. The believe campaign was so good. Please 343 if nothing else, THIS.
We love you 343i, we just want to see the best for the series that means so much to so many. Thanks for reading guys, have a blessed one. See you on the battlefield!

TL;DR
Improvements to music, minimizing of need for reading outside materials such as books for depth to story, rewarding of armor not microtransaction lottery thus giving campaign more replay value, bring back the motha F***** Flood, A GOOD fist fight scene with chief, Make the game rated M, and finally take note of the halo 3 believe advertisements.

What are your thoughts? I want this to be a positive place where constructive criticism can be openly spoken :slight_smile:

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Take note of Halo C.E. - Halo ODST. Forget about Reach and everything after.

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> Take note of Halo C.E. - Halo ODST. Forget about Reach and everything after.

I agree. However I think reach had a campaign that had such potential. maybe just take the good things from reach as well

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> This is going to be lengthy, so for those about to endeavor into the black hole I call a forum post, I salute you (TL;DR provided at end). I have been playing Halo all of my life, and I have an emotional connection to it that I don’t have with any other game, It has a special place in my heart. You have done a great job with what you were given, it is nearly impossible to satisfy an entire fanbase for something as large as halo, and seeing you continue to improve halo 5 well beyond its release is fantastic to see. These will be a few things that I think you could incorporate that would make halo 6 be a game that could rival even the first trilogy (as far as campaign goes). This is more for me to think out loud, seeing as how this won’t get noticed by 343i :slight_smile:
>
> First off, Music. This is SOOOO important to many people like me who need to feel the emotion while playing. I felt like a bad *** at all the right times in the original trilogy, and also felt the sadness and seriousness when I was supposed to. The music is so important to this! I think along with a few adjustments to the music style now, the only thing I would touch is the volume. This is very noticeable in halo 4. My FAVORITE song from the halo soundtracks (besides under cover of night) is “Arrival” in halo 4. Pre-release, that song singlehandedly would get me juiced for halo 4. But when I played the campaign, the music was so quiet! that song came on at the perfect moment, but I could not enjoy it. You made such a beautiful blend of badassery and emotion into one song and then let it sit in the background. Please make music more of a focus in H6.
>
> Next is keep the extended universe to a minimum please! I didn’t read any halo novels until after I completed the original trilogy and everything there was what I needed to know. I felt like the characters mattered, and they were all so cool and real. I come in to halo 5 and IDK what is even going on, like who the hell is this squad and why do I care? Buck is the only person who I was able to even recognize and relate to. Locke was so underdeveloped within the game, and that left a bad taste in the mouth. I don’t want to have to spend a ton of time outside of the game to understand why I’m shooting. Just include a better narrative with the characters please!
>
> Also side note, please remove the squad system. I know that you want to introduce new things to the game, and i applaud you for being courageous enough to try, but your current campaign style just doesn’t go with the halo games.
> And this last one is something that I have missed so much: REWARDING armor. Make us WORK for our armor, not just randomly give it out. H3 armor was so cool to me, and having to get achievements for armor made me invest so much time into the game, and I loved every second. The hayabusa armor baby let me tell you what I was the flyest 12 year old in the world. And the vid master MY GOD the vidmasters. I loved it and I know a lot of the community did too. Make it so that it isn’t just head torso and legs. Add back in arms shoulders. I just want to get lost in the game looking for all of its little intricacies, and I can’t really do that with these new halos.
>
> I am prob the only one that wants this but… BRING BACK THE FLOOD PLEASE. They added so much depth and importance to your actions. They were a threat to the whole galaxy, and they were so freaky I loved it. Such a good enemy. It just doesn’t feel like halo without them.
> A fist fight scene with chief. The halo 5 one was disappointing. It seemed slow and not like a supersoldier was throwing a punch. Ever move was telegraphed and easy to dodge. I want to see chief, the man who saved the f****** universe kick someones buttcheeks.
>
> Make the game rated M again, I want blood like the old days. Shoot an enemy, blood comes out. Simple.
> Finally, make your marketing campaign as epic, emotional, and gritty as halo 3’s. When i see starry night to this day I die a little inside, and I get goosebumps. It was such a genius campaign, I want to feel that way for halo 6 so bad, I really do. The believe campaign was so good. Please 343 if nothing else, THIS.
> We love you 343i, we just want to see the best for the series that means so much to so many. Thanks for reading guys, have a blessed one. See you on the battlefield!
>
> TL;DR
> Improvements to music, minimizing of need for reading outside materials such as books for depth to story, rewarding of armor not microtransaction lottery thus giving campaign more replay value, bring back the motha F***** Flood, A GOOD fist fight scene with chief, Make the game rated M, and finally take note of the halo 3 believe advertisements.
>
> What are your thoughts? I want this to be a positive place where constructive criticism can be openly spoken :slight_smile:

  1. It would have been extremely helpful for others to see profiles of each member of fireteam Osiris at the beginning of the game when they were being assigned to the fireteam.

  2. I do want more challenges to unlock armor( I thought that the Classic helmets would be unlock via challenges but that is not so) although technically we do have 2 armor unlock challenges i.e timmy and Achilles.

  3. I only liked the squad system because Republic commando had a similar system (yeah I am old) to that of Halo 5 and I believe that Halo took inspiration from Republic Commando in that manor.

  4. 343 don’t actually control what rating the game gets, although they do control if blood splatter from Spartans is in the game and it could be interesting to see that side of the games return.

And on a final note I loved the Locke/Chief fight purely because I liked seeing Locke get owned by chief in the end of the fight

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> > Take note of Halo C.E. - Halo ODST. Forget about Reach and everything after.
>
> I agree. However I think reach had a campaign that had such potential. maybe just take the good things from reach as well

Reach had good traits to the game.

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> > This is going to be lengthy, so for those about to endeavor into the black hole I call a forum post, I salute you (TL;DR provided at end). I have been playing Halo all of my life, and I have an emotional connection to it that I don’t have with any other game, It has a special place in my heart. You have done a great job with what you were given, it is nearly impossible to satisfy an entire fanbase for something as large as halo, and seeing you continue to improve halo 5 well beyond its release is fantastic to see. These will be a few things that I think you could incorporate that would make halo 6 be a game that could rival even the first trilogy (as far as campaign goes). This is more for me to think out loud, seeing as how this won’t get noticed by 343i :slight_smile:
> >
> > First off, Music. This is SOOOO important to many people like me who need to feel the emotion while playing. I felt like a bad *** at all the right times in the original trilogy, and also felt the sadness and seriousness when I was supposed to. The music is so important to this! I think along with a few adjustments to the music style now, the only thing I would touch is the volume. This is very noticeable in halo 4. My FAVORITE song from the halo soundtracks (besides under cover of night) is “Arrival” in halo 4. Pre-release, that song singlehandedly would get me juiced for halo 4. But when I played the campaign, the music was so quiet! that song came on at the perfect moment, but I could not enjoy it. You made such a beautiful blend of badassery and emotion into one song and then let it sit in the background. Please make music more of a focus in H6.
> >
> > Next is keep the extended universe to a minimum please! I didn’t read any halo novels until after I completed the original trilogy and everything there was what I needed to know. I felt like the characters mattered, and they were all so cool and real. I come in to halo 5 and IDK what is even going on, like who the hell is this squad and why do I care? Buck is the only person who I was able to even recognize and relate to. Locke was so underdeveloped within the game, and that left a bad taste in the mouth. I don’t want to have to spend a ton of time outside of the game to understand why I’m shooting. Just include a better narrative with the characters please!
> >
> > Also side note, please remove the squad system. I know that you want to introduce new things to the game, and i applaud you for being courageous enough to try, but your current campaign style just doesn’t go with the halo games.
> > And this last one is something that I have missed so much: REWARDING armor. Make us WORK for our armor, not just randomly give it out. H3 armor was so cool to me, and having to get achievements for armor made me invest so much time into the game, and I loved every second. The hayabusa armor baby let me tell you what I was the flyest 12 year old in the world. And the vid master MY GOD the vidmasters. I loved it and I know a lot of the community did too. Make it so that it isn’t just head torso and legs. Add back in arms shoulders. I just want to get lost in the game looking for all of its little intricacies, and I can’t really do that with these new halos.
> >
> > I am prob the only one that wants this but… BRING BACK THE FLOOD PLEASE. They added so much depth and importance to your actions. They were a threat to the whole galaxy, and they were so freaky I loved it. Such a good enemy. It just doesn’t feel like halo without them.
> > A fist fight scene with chief. The halo 5 one was disappointing. It seemed slow and not like a supersoldier was throwing a punch. Ever move was telegraphed and easy to dodge. I want to see chief, the man who saved the f****** universe kick someones buttcheeks.
> >
> > Make the game rated M again, I want blood like the old days. Shoot an enemy, blood comes out. Simple.
> > Finally, make your marketing campaign as epic, emotional, and gritty as halo 3’s. When i see starry night to this day I die a little inside, and I get goosebumps. It was such a genius campaign, I want to feel that way for halo 6 so bad, I really do. The believe campaign was so good. Please 343 if nothing else, THIS.
> > We love you 343i, we just want to see the best for the series that means so much to so many. Thanks for reading guys, have a blessed one. See you on the battlefield!
> >
> > TL;DR
> > Improvements to music, minimizing of need for reading outside materials such as books for depth to story, rewarding of armor not microtransaction lottery thus giving campaign more replay value, bring back the motha F***** Flood, A GOOD fist fight scene with chief, Make the game rated M, and finally take note of the halo 3 believe advertisements.
> >
> > What are your thoughts? I want this to be a positive place where constructive criticism can be openly spoken :slight_smile:
>
> 1. It would have been extremely helpful for others to see profiles of each member of fireteam Osiris at the beginning of the game when they were being assigned to the fireteam.
>
> 2. I do want more challenges to unlock armor( I thought that the Classic helmets would be unlock via challenges but that is not so) although technically we do have 2 armor unlock challenges i.e timmy and Achilles.
>
> 3. I only liked the squad system because Republic commando had a similar system (yeah I am old) to that of Halo 5 and I believe that Halo took inspiration from Republic Commando in that manor.
>
> 4. 343 don’t actually control what rating the game gets, although they do control if blood splatter from Spartans is in the game and it could be interesting to see that side of the games return.
>
> And on a final note I loved the Locke/Chief fight purely because I liked seeing Locke get owned by chief in the end of the fight

I think the fight was cool, and the beginning started off sweet, but the moves were just too slow for me I think. And chief didn’t even put his hands up in a boxing stance or anything, he was just walking around slowly towards locke all the time. I also like seeing Locke get owned by chief, but I wish it could have been chief pooping on the whole Osiris team. Imagine chief just getting in a classic boxing stance for a brief portion of the fight and just going off with some super high speed and power rib punches, uppercuts, jabs, and hooks. Just personal opinion though :slight_smile:

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> > > 2533274847627340;2:
> > > Take note of Halo C.E. - Halo ODST. Forget about Reach and everything after.
> >
> > I agree. However I think reach had a campaign that had such potential. maybe just take the good things from reach as well
>
> Reach had good traits to the game.

I agree Reach had good traits , but was it good? The campaign had potential , but multi-player was broken (Bloom , almost all AAs , introduction of Sprint , bland Forge pallets ergo bland Forge maps , bad Dev. maps , Fire fight changes , load outs) , and neither dev team seemed willing to listen until it was to late to save it (Classic Playlist , Drop pod balance [? not sure how you balance a broken mechanic] , Bloom reduction , removal of Armor lock and shotguns from load outs). This is why I call it , “The Fail of Reach”. “Please , Remember Reach” (and don’t duplicate the mistakes).

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> > > 2533274862483533;1:
> > > This is going to be lengthy, so for those about to endeavor into the black hole I call a forum post, I salute you (TL;DR provided at end). I have been playing Halo all of my life, and I have an emotional connection to it that I don’t have with any other game, It has a special place in my heart. You have done a great job with what you were given, it is nearly impossible to satisfy an entire fanbase for something as large as halo, and seeing you continue to improve halo 5 well beyond its release is fantastic to see. These will be a few things that I think you could incorporate that would make halo 6 be a game that could rival even the first trilogy (as far as campaign goes). This is more for me to think out loud, seeing as how this won’t get noticed by 343i :slight_smile:
> > >
> > > First off, Music. This is SOOOO important to many people like me who need to feel the emotion while playing. I felt like a bad *** at all the right times in the original trilogy, and also felt the sadness and seriousness when I was supposed to. The music is so important to this! I think along with a few adjustments to the music style now, the only thing I would touch is the volume. This is very noticeable in halo 4. My FAVORITE song from the halo soundtracks (besides under cover of night) is “Arrival” in halo 4. Pre-release, that song singlehandedly would get me juiced for halo 4. But when I played the campaign, the music was so quiet! that song came on at the perfect moment, but I could not enjoy it. You made such a beautiful blend of badassery and emotion into one song and then let it sit in the background. Please make music more of a focus in H6.
> > >
> > > Next is keep the extended universe to a minimum please! I didn’t read any halo novels until after I completed the original trilogy and everything there was what I needed to know. I felt like the characters mattered, and they were all so cool and real. I come in to halo 5 and IDK what is even going on, like who the hell is this squad and why do I care? Buck is the only person who I was able to even recognize and relate to. Locke was so underdeveloped within the game, and that left a bad taste in the mouth. I don’t want to have to spend a ton of time outside of the game to understand why I’m shooting. Just include a better narrative with the characters please!
> > >
> > > Also side note, please remove the squad system. I know that you want to introduce new things to the game, and i applaud you for being courageous enough to try, but your current campaign style just doesn’t go with the halo games.
> > > And this last one is something that I have missed so much: REWARDING armor. Make us WORK for our armor, not just randomly give it out. H3 armor was so cool to me, and having to get achievements for armor made me invest so much time into the game, and I loved every second. The hayabusa armor baby let me tell you what I was the flyest 12 year old in the world. And the vid master MY GOD the vidmasters. I loved it and I know a lot of the community did too. Make it so that it isn’t just head torso and legs. Add back in arms shoulders. I just want to get lost in the game looking for all of its little intricacies, and I can’t really do that with these new halos.
> > >
> > > I am prob the only one that wants this but… BRING BACK THE FLOOD PLEASE. They added so much depth and importance to your actions. They were a threat to the whole galaxy, and they were so freaky I loved it. Such a good enemy. It just doesn’t feel like halo without them.
> > > A fist fight scene with chief. The halo 5 one was disappointing. It seemed slow and not like a supersoldier was throwing a punch. Ever move was telegraphed and easy to dodge. I want to see chief, the man who saved the f****** universe kick someones buttcheeks.
> > >
> > > Make the game rated M again, I want blood like the old days. Shoot an enemy, blood comes out. Simple.
> > > Finally, make your marketing campaign as epic, emotional, and gritty as halo 3’s. When i see starry night to this day I die a little inside, and I get goosebumps. It was such a genius campaign, I want to feel that way for halo 6 so bad, I really do. The believe campaign was so good. Please 343 if nothing else, THIS.
> > > We love you 343i, we just want to see the best for the series that means so much to so many. Thanks for reading guys, have a blessed one. See you on the battlefield!
> > >
> > > TL;DR
> > > Improvements to music, minimizing of need for reading outside materials such as books for depth to story, rewarding of armor not microtransaction lottery thus giving campaign more replay value, bring back the motha F***** Flood, A GOOD fist fight scene with chief, Make the game rated M, and finally take note of the halo 3 believe advertisements.
> > >
> > > What are your thoughts? I want this to be a positive place where constructive criticism can be openly spoken :slight_smile:
> >
> > 1. It would have been extremely helpful for others to see profiles of each member of fireteam Osiris at the beginning of the game when they were being assigned to the fireteam.
> >
> > 2. I do want more challenges to unlock armor( I thought that the Classic helmets would be unlock via challenges but that is not so) although technically we do have 2 armor unlock challenges i.e timmy and Achilles.
> >
> > 3. I only liked the squad system because Republic commando had a similar system (yeah I am old) to that of Halo 5 and I believe that Halo took inspiration from Republic Commando in that manor.
> >
> > 4. 343 don’t actually control what rating the game gets, although they do control if blood splatter from Spartans is in the game and it could be interesting to see that side of the games return.
> >
> > And on a final note I loved the Locke/Chief fight purely because I liked seeing Locke get owned by chief in the end of the fight
>
> I think the fight was cool, and the beginning started off sweet, but the moves were just too slow for me I think. And chief didn’t even put his hands up in a boxing stance or anything, he was just walking around slowly towards locke all the time. I also like seeing Locke get owned by chief, but I wish it could have been chief pooping on the whole Osiris team. Imagine chief just getting in a classic boxing stance for a brief portion of the fight and just going off with some super high speed and power rib punches, uppercuts, jabs, and hooks. Just personal opinion though :slight_smile:

I also love the fact that the rest of fireteam Osiris are just watching Locke get his butt kicked and they are not even helping

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They can’t bring back the flood… Well… In a weird way they could… But you blew up the Gravemind in H3… Chief destroyed the flood… There is no more flood… The ring blew the **** up… I love the flood, but unless a spore escaped the ring or a new Gravemind comes to life, I don’t see it possible… And with the current setting, I don’t see them fitting very well… The forerunner planets are shield planets and were built to basically keep the flood out… Though it would be awesome to see a flood envasion on one of the planets or a “planet” drifts into proximity and its just a huge flood infested vessel.

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> They can’t bring back the flood… Well… In a weird way they could… But you blew up the Gravemind in H3… Chief destroyed the flood… There is no more flood… The ring blew the **** up… I love the flood, but unless a spore escaped the ring or a new Gravemind comes to life, I don’t see it possible… And with the current setting, I don’t see them fitting very well… The forerunner planets are shield planets and were built to basically keep the flood out… Though it would be awesome to see a flood envasion on one of the planets or a “planet” drifts into proximity and its just a huge flood infested vessel.

I can dream okay?! :frowning: jk but in all seriousness imagine how amazing it would be if there was a mission that was on this planet that was completely overrun and dominated by the flood. Like idk why but that just gets me juiced! xD