Now, in H5 there are three different contest: Arena, Social, Warzone. It’s good. But i think that H6 can meet moore types of players, with 4 different contest:
ARENA: Spartan abilities (like as H5).
SOCIAL: Characters with spartan abilities (the same of arena) & Super abilities (like as Destiny, overwatch or quake champions). Weapons with different perks and upgrade (like as any fps). Close the Req system and introduce a game money to buy and ugrade weapons.
CLASSIC: No abilities, H2 Br start. Old Ranking system (1-50).
WARZONE: Like as Social.
This system can make all people happy: old players, actual players, and other players that actually play other fps.
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> not only. for social contest: different characters, each with different super abilities (like as destiny, quake champions or overwatch).
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> So you mean like loadouts? Just with characters.
no loadouts, character…do you know Destiny, Overwatch? each character is different for agility, resistance ecc and have some personal abilities…
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> > So you mean like loadouts? Just with characters.
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> no loadouts, character…do you know Destiny, Overwatch?
Yes, but everyone would have some kind of advantage over others, and some disadvantage. It wouldn’t be fair. We want Halo to be equal.
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> Yes, but everyone would have some kind of advantage over others, and some disadvantage. It wouldn’t be fair. We want Halo to be equal.
yes of course… but, there would be arena and classic contests for equal gameplay… this would be a single contest for taking people that actually play other fps…
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Not gonna happen. The closest Halo was to was you’re describing is in Halo 4 with its loadouts. 343i already chose to emphasize on 'being an ‘‘arena shooter’’ with Halo 5, removing this system, but adding REQs in Warzone as a compromise. I do not support that idea and doubt many people in the community want this.
RANKED - Classic Halo gameplay, even starts, no/limited AA, and obviously Ranked Matchmaking.
SOCIAL - Halo 5 style gameplay, equal starts, No AA besides thrusters and sprint, lax Ranked Matchmaking. (could also be a mix of Classic and Modernized Halo game is a voting system is put in place)
WARZONE - If 343 are going to include warzone that is…
INFINITY - A social playlist that is very similar to Halo 4, uses custom loadouts and possibly ordnance drops again?
…By using these playlist everybody gets the best of both worlds in social and ranked playlists. those diehard Original Halo dudes can have their playlist in ranked. people who enjoy H5 can have what they desire in Social. Warzone will probably make a return. And players like myself who greatly enjoyed halos Reach and 4 can have infinity playlist with loadouts and craziness…
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ehhhh… that’s kind of defeating the idea of equal starts. I mean I advocate for loadouts like Halo 4 but even I think that super one-hit-kill abilities like in destiny is too much. those are actually one of the reasons I DON’T play those games and instead stick to Halo, CoD, and Battlefield.
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> ehhhh… that’s kind of defeating the idea of equal starts. I mean I advocate for loadouts like Halo 4 but even I think that super one-hit-kill abilities like in destiny is too much. those are actually one of the reasons I DON’T play those games and instead stick to Halo, CoD, and Battlefield.
i am an Halo 2 fan… my love old gameplay. But, actually, there are:
Old players that prefers old gameplay (H2/H3)
New generation players that loves H5.
Many people that don’t play Halo, but they could play it if there will be a “modern contest”.
My idea is for all type of players:
A Classic Halo contest (no abilities, old BR start)
An Halo 5 gameplay contest (ony spartan abilities, all equal to start)
A modern contest (like Overwatch, Quake Champions or Destiny).
all type of players could find his dimension… imho…
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> > ehhhh… that’s kind of defeating the idea of equal starts. I mean I advocate for loadouts like Halo 4 but even I think that super one-hit-kill abilities like in destiny is too much. those are actually one of the reasons I DON’T play those games and instead stick to Halo, CoD, and Battlefield.
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> i am an Halo 2 fan… my love old gameplay. But, actually, there are:
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> 1. Old players that prefers old gameplay (H2/H3)
> 2. New generation players that loves H5.
> 3. Many people that don’t play Halo, but they could play it if there will be a “modern contest”.
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> My idea is for all type of players:
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> 1. A Classic Halo contest (no abilities, old BR start)
> 2. An Halo 5 gameplay contest (ony spartan abilities, all equal to start)
> 3. A modern contest (like Overwatch, Quake Champions or Destiny).
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> all type of players could find his dimension… imho…
my orrigional post on this thread gives the ideato have four playlist options to fit the likes of most players.
Ranked - Classic halo
Social - modernized halo
Infinity - Halo 4 style
Warzone - same as H5
Trying to have halo with super abilities that one hit kill makes the game into something its not so no I cant get behind that idea. no super abilities like destiny.
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> Now, in H5 there are three different contest: Arena, Social, Warzone. It’s good. But i think that H6 can meet moore types of players, with 4 different contest:
> ARENA: Spartan abilities (like as H5).
> SOCIAL: Characters with spartan abilities (the same of arena) & Super abilities (like as Destiny, overwatch or quake champions). Weapons with different perks and upgrade (like as any fps). Close the Req system and introduce a game money to buy and ugrade weapons.
> CLASSIC: No abilities, H2 Br start. Old Ranking system (1-50).
> WARZONE: Like as Social.
> This system can make all people happy: old players, actual players, and other players that actually play other fps.
no I don’t think most halo fans can get behind the idea of turning halo into overwatch or destiny. let them have that whacked out style of gameplay. i’d be happy just to have loadouts back, and even that would displease a lot of people. but don’t try and make halo something it’s not. super abilities is a VERY BAD idea…
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> Now, in H5 there are three different contest: Arena, Social, Warzone. It’s good. But i think that H6 can meet moore types of players, with 4 different contest:
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> ARENA: Spartan abilities (like as H5).
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> SOCIAL: Characters with spartan abilities (the same of arena) & Super abilities (like as Destiny, overwatch or quake champions). Weapons with different perks and upgrade (like as any fps). Close the Req system and introduce a game money to buy and ugrade weapons.
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> CLASSIC: No abilities, H2 Br start. Old Ranking system (1-50).
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> WARZONE: Like as Social.
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> This system can make all people happy: old players, actual players, and other players that actually play other fps.
That’s unrealistic. Games that try to be everything fail. You’re basically asking for three games in a single package: a revamped Halo 2/Halo 3, a revamped Halo 5 and a Overwatch/Destiny, all for 59.99$. It’s not going to happen. Just think about all the new maps 343i would have to design to match all of these different gameplays. Smaller maps for the slower-paced Halo 2/Halo 3, big maps for the faster-paced Halo 5 and special maps that take into account special abilities a la Overwatch/Destiny.
For Halo 6 to be a legendary game, all 343i needs to do is find a middle ground gameplay between Halo 5 and Halo 2/Halo 3. If they can do that, add split-screen which Bonnie Ross confirmed and add playable elites (I don’t care about elites but a lot of people do), there will be no need to put up separate ways of playing different games. THAT will be uniting the community.
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> > ARENA: Spartan abilities (like as H5).
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> > SOCIAL: Characters with spartan abilities (the same of arena) & Super abilities (like as Destiny, overwatch or quake champions). Weapons with different perks and upgrade (like as any fps). Close the Req system and introduce a game money to buy and ugrade weapons.
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> > CLASSIC: No abilities, H2 Br start. Old Ranking system (1-50).
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> > WARZONE: Like as Social.
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> > This system can make all people happy: old players, actual players, and other players that actually play other fps.
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> That’s unrealistic. Games that try to be everything fail. You’re basically asking for three games in a single package: a revamped Halo 2/Halo 3, a revamped Halo 5 and a Overwatch/Destiny, all for 59.99$. It’s not going to happen. Just think about all the new maps 343i would have to design to match all of these different gameplays. Smaller maps for the slower-paced Halo 2/Halo 3, big maps for the faster-paced Halo 5 and special maps that take into account special abilities a la Overwatch/Destiny.
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> For Halo 6 to be a legendary game, all 343i needs to do is find a middle ground gameplay between Halo 5 and Halo 2/Halo 3. If they can do that, add split-screen which Bonnie Ross confirmed and add playable elites (I don’t care about elites but a lot of people do), there will be no need to put up separate ways of playing different games. THAT will be uniting the community.
probably you are right. imho, an Halo 2/3/5 Hybrid, must have:
Halo 2 BR (che H5 Br shots like as a DMR, i don’t like it)
No thruster pack and no vertical strafe (i like the old strafe system)
i play halo since 2004, i always played only halo… but, with Halo 5 is the first time that i’m bored. It’s a cold game, i don’t know the Halo gameplay in this game…
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> Make an H6 suggestion thread ..
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> … and read it ..
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Yeah, there have been so many of them lately that it might behoove them to create a stickied megathread for it…
In reply to the OP: if they copied and pasted Halo 5’s current Arena setup, with the current playlists for Ranked and Social, I’d be more or less okay with it with these changes:
SEPARATE STAT TRACKING for Ranked and Social - Ranked and Social versions of a Classic playlist with no abilities (tweak the sandbox and create custom maps as needed) - this could even be called the “Halo 3 Anniversary” or “Halo 3 Throwback” playlist - Implement the changes Josh keeps discussing in the Matchmaking section regarding efforts to combat TO4’s vs solo queue players by increasing the skill of the solo’s vs the TO4While I personally prefer classic gameplay vs Halo 5’s gameplay, I could live with this.
