- Grenade position marker on reticle. this is great IMHO. (maybe a little codish,ok, but a good addition. now we know where to run.)
- no trace of a third slot for new grenades.
- carbine RoF closer to DMR than BR
- AR and other automatic weapons are really strong! not good idea, a least for me.
- no trace of gravity hammer so far! i didn´t saw it on any video. please tell me that someone has.
- what are those shields? do we have an AL substitute?
There’s 4 slots for grenades, Just helping (:
> - Grenade position marker on reticle. this is great IMHO. (maybe a little codish,ok, but a good addition. now we know where to run.)
> - no trace of a third slot for new grenades.
> - carbine RoF closer to DMR than BR
> - AR and other automatic weapons are really strong! not good idea, a least for me.
> - no trace of gravity hammer so far! i didn´t saw it on any video. please tell me that someone has.
> - what are those shields? do we have an AL substitute?
for the grenade thing its just the simple problem of him not having picked up any yet. On Halo 3 the Flame Grenade icon was missing in the campaign until you picked them up for the first time. He just hasn’t come across the new grenades in the campaign so far.
> There’s 4 slots for grenades, Just helping (:
i´ve only seen two grenade types. i guess i miss the slots, although i looked for them 
We didn’t see any Carbine, that was some sort of Covenant AR
And this new weapon: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/ce/28/ce283fa7033e3956e70f8b884d0c7018.png
yes, i think about that, but in MP videos there are only plasmas and frags. i watched the video again and there is nothing else.
> - AR and other automatic weapons are really strong! not good idea, a least for me.
>
> - what are those shields? do we have an AL substitute?
- I know what you mean. I realise they have to bring new players to the franchise and a way of doing this is through fully automatic and more ‘easily accessible’ weapons such as the AR but the kill times seen look incredibly quick compared to the BR. I do also realise that they do not want a one weapon situation such as the BR rules all which is why they look more powerful at this time compared to the precision rifles.
The hard light shield will not be a replacement for AL. You can see from the footage it only protects the front side, looks like cannot use weapon, grenades and even melee and can be destroyed easily with standard weapons.
> We didn’t see any Carbine, that was some sort of Covenant AR
>
> Carbine: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/e5/74/e57463ecfede56ae2defd998018a468e.png
>
> And this new weapon: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/ce/28/ce283fa7033e3956e70f8b884d0c7018.png
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DkHp9-8ZrI&feature=related
jump to 1:43
carbine is back.
> > We didn’t see any Carbine, that was some sort of Covenant AR
> >
> > Carbine: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/e5/74/e57463ecfede56ae2defd998018a468e.png
> >
> > And this new weapon: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/ce/28/ce283fa7033e3956e70f8b884d0c7018.png
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DkHp9-8ZrI&feature=related
>
> jump to 1:43
>
> carbine is back.
-Yoink!-, I spent like two minutes trying to sign in so I could post that haha. But yeah, I noticed the slower rate of fire as well. Not sure how I feel about it.
> yes, i think about that, but in MP videos there are only plasmas and frags. i watched the video again and there is nothing else.
maybe they’ve hidden the icons in the multiplayer build to keep them secret for now because on the first look trailer there were definitely icons for 4 grenades.
it´s not trigger happy, wich is what i most liked about it (carbine). a bit dissapointing but hey, we´ve got a lot of choices now.
> > yes, i think about that, but in MP videos there are only plasmas and frags. i watched the video again and there is nothing else.
>
> maybe they’ve hidden the icons in the multiplayer build to keep them secret for now because on the first look trailer there were definitely icons for 4 grenades.
really? i think they simply took them away from MP. wich is good imo.
GRAVITY HAMMER ANYONE PLEASE???
> - Grenade position marker on reticle. this is great IMHO. (maybe a little codish,ok, but a good addition. now we know where to run.)
> - no trace of a third slot for new grenades.
> - carbine RoF closer to DMR than BR
> - AR and other automatic weapons are really strong! not good idea, a least for me.
> - no trace of gravity hammer so far! i didn´t saw it on any video. please tell me that someone has.
> - <mark>what are those shields? do we have an AL substitute?</mark>
It is, if those things leaked before E3 are correct, called the Hardlight Shield armor ability. Creating a small shield protecting the user from things comming at them from the front, or thats at least what we saw.
It will not be the next Armor Lock, I am sure. From the few seconds we’ve seen of it, it has many disadvantages especially in close combat. Such as, it only protects the front. If someone manages to get behind you or just past the shield, you’re dead. It is also likely that there is no use of guns, melee, or grenades in it.
So, it is much better than Armor Lock (as in balanced). It will be most useful at longer ranges when the enemy is in front of you, but at the cost of your weapon/melee/grenade abilities and it becomes much easier to overcome up close.
Off Topic: Did my eyes deceive me? Did I see 7878 people viewing Halo 4? Thats like… thousands more than usual!
yes, it looks to be better on long range. obviously more balanced than AL, but do we really need something that slows game pace? i think not.
offtopic: it looks that there is many people looking at this, that´s why i made a thread asking for dedicated servers.
> We didn’t see any Carbine, that was some sort of Covenant AR
>
> Carbine: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/e5/74/e57463ecfede56ae2defd998018a468e.png
>
> <mark>And this new weapon: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/ce/28/ce283fa7033e3956e70f8b884d0c7018.png</mark>
Thats called the Storm Rifle.
> > We didn’t see any Carbine, that was some sort of Covenant AR
> >
> > Carbine: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/e5/74/e57463ecfede56ae2defd998018a468e.png
> >
> > <mark>And this new weapon: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/ce/28/ce283fa7033e3956e70f8b884d0c7018.png</mark>
>
> Thats called the Storm Rifle.
watch the video i posted, it is clearly the carbine.
> > - AR and other automatic weapons are really strong! not good idea, a least for me.
> >
> > - what are those shields? do we have an AL substitute?
>
> 1. I know what you mean. I realise they have to bring new players to the franchise and a way of doing this is through fully automatic and more ‘easily accessible’ weapons such as the AR but the kill times seen look incredibly quick compared to the BR. I do also realise that they do not want a one weapon situation such as the BR rules all which is why they look more powerful at this time compared to the precision rifles.
>
> <mark>The hard light shield will not be a replacement for AL. You can see from the footage it only protects the front side, looks like cannot use weapon, grenades and even melee and can be destroyed easily with standard weapons.
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</mark>
>
> You can’t even use a weapon while using the shield
> > > We didn’t see any Carbine, that was some sort of Covenant AR
> > >
> > > Carbine: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/e5/74/e57463ecfede56ae2defd998018a468e.png
> > >
> > > <mark>And this new weapon: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/ce/28/ce283fa7033e3956e70f8b884d0c7018.png</mark>
> >
> > Thats called the Storm Rifle.
>
> watch the video i posted, it is clearly the carbine.
Nope defiantly the Storm Rifle
Here’s the proof
> > > We didn’t see any Carbine, that was some sort of Covenant AR
> > >
> > > Carbine: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/e5/74/e57463ecfede56ae2defd998018a468e.png
> > >
> > > <mark>And this new weapon: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/ce/28/ce283fa7033e3956e70f8b884d0c7018.png</mark>
> >
> > Thats called the Storm Rifle.
>
> watch the video i posted, it is clearly the carbine.
Take a look at the Halo 4 Renders on the front page. The weapon is labeled “Storm Rifle”.
If I remember, in the video, it shot like a plasma rifle. (Unless I was looking at a different weapon), It seems to be a new type of plasma rifle.