343 should use the opportunity of social games to test some game changes.
For instance. They should try swapping out some power weapons on some levels for others, or even trying weapon variants of existing weapons.
A good example would be the saw on the map mercy in slayer. Change it out for The Answer since the saw is currently pretty under powered.
Another swap to be tried I think would be the grenade launcher replacing the plasma caster on The Rig.
These are just a few ideas I had. Anyone else interested in seeing a couple test runs of weapon swaps or exchanges? I think social would be the best place to try it since it doesn’t affect rank, just sheer fun.
That’s my point. Before social playlists existed they just made changes and crossed their fingers in hopes it would go over well.
Like in ranked slayer on colosseum where they swapped the rocket and sniper spawns. It sucked, everyone complained and they changed it back quickly.
343 does listen, and they’re pretty responsive.
My point is that social is a good testing ground for those sorts of changes. I would suggest making more playlists, but let’s be honest, the social playlists have been howled for since this game launched and I’m happy with what they’ve done.
I’m just trying to use the gifts we’ve been given effectively.
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> 343 should use the opportunity of social games to test some game changes.
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> For instance. They should try swapping out some power weapons on some levels for others, or even trying weapon variants of existing weapons.
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> A good example would be the saw on the map mercy in slayer. Change it out for The Answer since the saw is currently pretty under powered.
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> Another swap to be tried I think would be the grenade launcher replacing the plasma caster on The Rig.
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> These are just a few ideas I had. Anyone else interested in seeing a couple test runs of weapon swaps or exchanges? I think social would be the best place to try it since it doesn’t affect rank, just sheer fun.
The saw is underpowered in arena? What fantasy world are you living in? As far as the grenade launcher on the rig, that could be fun but an answer on mercy would be nightmarish.
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> > 343 should use the opportunity of social games to test some game changes.
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> > For instance. They should try swapping out some power weapons on some levels for others, or even trying weapon variants of existing weapons.
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> > A good example would be the saw on the map mercy in slayer. Change it out for The Answer since the saw is currently pretty under powered.
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> > Another swap to be tried I think would be the grenade launcher replacing the plasma caster on The Rig.
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> > These are just a few ideas I had. Anyone else interested in seeing a couple test runs of weapon swaps or exchanges? I think social would be the best place to try it since it doesn’t affect rank, just sheer fun.
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> The saw is underpowered in arena? What fantasy world are you living in? As far as the grenade launcher on the rig, that could be fun but an answer on mercy would be nightmarish.
lol ya saw is crazy in arena, its why the reduced the ammo amount it spawns with. Grenade launcher on rig would be way to dominant. The caster itself is way to dominant on that map (they basically are the same weapon, grenade based projectile that bounces) and ya no warzone power weapons should not be on any map in arena. Normal weapons? Ya sure as long as they are not third tier.
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> > 343 should use the opportunity of social games to test some game changes.
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> > For instance. They should try swapping out some power weapons on some levels for others, or even trying weapon variants of existing weapons.
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> > A good example would be the saw on the map mercy in slayer. Change it out for The Answer since the saw is currently pretty under powered.
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> > Another swap to be tried I think would be the grenade launcher replacing the plasma caster on The Rig.
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> > These are just a few ideas I had. Anyone else interested in seeing a couple test runs of weapon swaps or exchanges? I think social would be the best place to try it since it doesn’t affect rank, just sheer fun.
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> The saw is underpowered in arena? What fantasy world are you living in? As far as the grenade launcher on the rig, that could be fun but an answer on mercy would be nightmarish.
Sorry pal, not everyone is a champion skilled player. Down in the platinum/ diamond ranks I rarely get cut down by the saw on mercy, it’s normally good old fashioned team shooting is what kills me. I also fear no player with a saw on that level either.
The sniper on that level, in the right hands, can change the outcome of the match, but I’ve never seen the saw do that.
Admittedly, I don’t play with some of the best players in the world.
I just think social would be a good place to take some weapon swaps for a whirl for the community.
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> > > 343 should use the opportunity of social games to test some game changes.
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> > > For instance. They should try swapping out some power weapons on some levels for others, or even trying weapon variants of existing weapons.
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> > > A good example would be the saw on the map mercy in slayer. Change it out for The Answer since the saw is currently pretty under powered.
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> > > Another swap to be tried I think would be the grenade launcher replacing the plasma caster on The Rig.
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> > > These are just a few ideas I had. Anyone else interested in seeing a couple test runs of weapon swaps or exchanges? I think social would be the best place to try it since it doesn’t affect rank, just sheer fun.
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> > The saw is underpowered in arena? What fantasy world are you living in? As far as the grenade launcher on the rig, that could be fun but an answer on mercy would be nightmarish.
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> lol ya saw is crazy in arena, its why the reduced the ammo amount it spawns with. Grenade launcher on rig would be way to dominant. The caster itself is way to dominant on that map (they basically are the same weapon, grenade based projectile that bounces) and ya no warzone power weapons should not be on any map in arena. Normal weapons? Ya sure as long as they are not third tier.
Is the SAW even in any other Arena level? I know they tested it on Fathom for a little while but switched it back to the Railgun relatively quickly. I also feel like the SAW is much less intimidating and effective than it was in Halo 4, I rarely see it dominating on Mercy and I’ll go for the Beam Rifle over the SAW every time. If you feel the Caster and the Grenade launcher are so similar I don’t see why you would care if they were swapped? As far as Warzone power weapons they’ve already added variants into the current maps, both The Rig and Orion II utilize the upgraded Suppressor (Song of Peace), and I believe Plaza has a suppressed SMG. Something like the 3rd tier weapons might be a little over the top but it’s Social and it’s supposed to be about casual fun not sweaty competition. I think seeing some of the variants would be awesome especially for the people who don’t particularly want to play Warzone.
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> > > 343 should use the opportunity of social games to test some game changes.
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> > > For instance. They should try swapping out some power weapons on some levels for others, or even trying weapon variants of existing weapons.
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> > > A good example would be the saw on the map mercy in slayer. Change it out for The Answer since the saw is currently pretty under powered.
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> > > Another swap to be tried I think would be the grenade launcher replacing the plasma caster on The Rig.
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> > > These are just a few ideas I had. Anyone else interested in seeing a couple test runs of weapon swaps or exchanges? I think social would be the best place to try it since it doesn’t affect rank, just sheer fun.
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> > The saw is underpowered in arena? What fantasy world are you living in? As far as the grenade launcher on the rig, that could be fun but an answer on mercy would be nightmarish.
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> Sorry pal, not everyone is a champion skilled player. Down in the platinum/ diamond ranks I rarely get cut down by the saw on mercy, it’s normally good old fashioned team shooting is what kills me. I also fear no player with a saw on that level either.
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> The sniper on that level, in the right hands, can change the outcome of the match, but I’ve never seen the saw do that.
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> Admittedly, I don’t play with some of the best players in the world.
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> I just think social would be a good place to take some weapon swaps for a whirl for the community.
The saw has more power and more range than any other automatic in arena. While I’m flattered that you think I’m a champion level player, the reality is I got champ once in FFA, and that’s not as hard to do as you might think. I’ve never come close to champ in any other playlist.
If they add in some kind of special playlist where God tier weapons like the answer spawn on the pad that could be fun. However, while your experience with the saw is that it isn’t good, the reality is that the saw is pretty dominant on mercy. There’s absolutely no way the answer ever makes it into ranked arena but I definitely think it could be fun in some social settings.
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> 343 should use the opportunity of social games to test some game changes.
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> For instance. They should try swapping out some power weapons on some levels for others, or even trying weapon variants of existing weapons.
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> A good example would be the saw on the map mercy in slayer. Change it out for The Answer since the saw is currently pretty under powered.
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> Another swap to be tried I think would be the grenade launcher replacing the plasma caster on The Rig.
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> These are just a few ideas I had. Anyone else interested in seeing a couple test runs of weapon swaps or exchanges? I think social would be the best place to try it since it doesn’t affect rank, just sheer fun.
The main change i want is the Plasma Caster on The Rig to be replaced with the Grenade Launcher, It would feel like it would fit the map better imo because the Plasma Caster feels out of place in the map. Anybody agree?
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> > 343 should use the opportunity of social games to test some game changes.
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> > For instance. They should try swapping out some power weapons on some levels for others, or even trying weapon variants of existing weapons.
> >
> > A good example would be the saw on the map mercy in slayer. Change it out for The Answer since the saw is currently pretty under powered.
> >
> > Another swap to be tried I think would be the grenade launcher replacing the plasma caster on The Rig.
> >
> > These are just a few ideas I had. Anyone else interested in seeing a couple test runs of weapon swaps or exchanges? I think social would be the best place to try it since it doesn’t affect rank, just sheer fun.
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> The main change i want is the Plasma Caster on The Rig to be replaced with the Grenade Launcher, It would feel like it would fit the map better imo because the Plasma Caster feels out of place in the map. Anybody agree?
I think the grenade launcher would definitely fit in with the industrial feel the rig has.
I don’t mind the plasma caster at all, but I would love to see some weapon swaps be given a chance on maps like this.
The SAW being underpowered in Arena on Mercy so you want them to add the Warzone variant? I disagree with that one but grenade launcher on The Rig could be interesting.
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> The SAW being underpowered in Arena on Mercy so you want them to add the Warzone variant? I disagree with that one but grenade launcher on The Rig could be interesting.
I’m not hung up on the saw, brother.
I’d just like to see some alternate weapons or even weapon sets show up in social. That way we can see what works/doesn’t.
I think it’s a ripe testing ground.
I mean, I would love to see a “beta testing” playlist, but honestly I don’t think were getting more playlists. Don’t get me wrong, I’m stoked we now have social and customs browsers, but a preview playlist with proposed changes would be pretty cool.
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> > The SAW being underpowered in Arena on Mercy so you want them to add the Warzone variant? I disagree with that one but grenade launcher on The Rig could be interesting.
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> I’m not hung up on the saw, brother.
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> I’d just like to see some alternate weapons or even weapon sets show up in social. That way we can see what works/doesn’t.
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> I think it’s a ripe testing ground.
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> I mean, I would love to see a “beta testing” playlist, but honestly I don’t think were getting more playlists. Don’t get me wrong, I’m stoked we now have social and customs browsers, but a preview playlist with proposed changes would be pretty cool.
Well they’re changing Team Arena weapon/ weapon placements so I don’t see why they couldn’t with social playlists. I just think Mercy in particular shouldn’t have a more OP Saw. I wouldn’t mind them changing around some of the weapons on certain maps to see how they play. As you said, it would be perfect to test different power weapons. I’m all for that.
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> > > The SAW being underpowered in Arena on Mercy so you want them to add the Warzone variant? I disagree with that one but grenade launcher on The Rig could be interesting.
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> > I’m not hung up on the saw, brother.
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> > I’d just like to see some alternate weapons or even weapon sets show up in social. That way we can see what works/doesn’t.
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> > I think it’s a ripe testing ground.
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> > I mean, I would love to see a “beta testing” playlist, but honestly I don’t think were getting more playlists. Don’t get me wrong, I’m stoked we now have social and customs browsers, but a preview playlist with proposed changes would be pretty cool.
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> Well they’re changing Team Arena weapon/ weapon placements so I don’t see why they couldn’t with social playlists. I just think Mercy in particular shouldn’t have a more OP Saw. I wouldn’t mind them changing around some of the weapons on certain maps to see how they play. As you said, it would be perfect to test different power weapons. I’m all for that.
Exactly! Use social as a playground. Change things up a bit, see what players like.
Weapons don’t have to be the limit, either. If they want to test a few large crate/obstacles or even non weapon swaps like throwing a chain turret on some levels, these could all lead to fun and exciting new games.
Keeping the realm of weapon swaps, maybe have a random weapon pad on some levels that spits outs random power weapon on the normal timer. Everyone has thirty seconds to see what’s next and plan accordingly.
You think the SAW is underpowered? It’s a really good weapon. The Answer on the other hand is pretty much the single most OP gun in the game. If they put that thing on a weapon pad in arena, I think you’d start to wish they hadn’t real quick.
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> You think the SAW is underpowered? It’s a really good weapon. The Answer on the other hand is pretty much the single most OP gun in the game. If they put that thing on a weapon pad in arena, I think you’d start to wish they hadn’t real quick.
Yes, I think it’s underpowered. Apparently I haven’t run into the worlds best saw operators. I’ve looked into some high ranking onyx and champion players and the saw is apparently used much more effectively at higher levels, with it being often the tool of destruction on the best scoring players on that game. Being a platinum/lower diamond player I’m not often dominated by the saw on mercy.
Like I said, I’m not hung up on the saw.
I’ll reiterate, I want to see social playlists used as a test bed for potential changes.
Orion 2 for instance i don’t think has a favorable reception, at least along the players i know and from what I’ve seen from some forum threads out there. Maybe putting that map into social first to see how it plays would have saved a lot of headache instead of dumping it into a ranked playlist.
Also, the winter arena preview list wasn’t a thing when I started this thread. That nearly serves my needs, but I’m awful at objective games so I sick to slayer. I never know when to defend the flag or charge a stronghold and that indecision normally gets me killed. I play slayer because it’s simpler. Grinding through a playlist I don’t enjoy to see some possible slayer changes sounds like a rough ordeal.
