Okay soo have been playing the social Playlists triple team and team skirmish. These feel like anything but social I am constantly getting matched against a full party of players. I don’t know why all these super competitive people are all over the social Playlists but it doesn’t make it fun. None of the games have even been close pretty well every game lose by 20 kills.
Chances are, they are just there to buff their K/D & W/L ratio. I wish 343i will remove stat tracking from social playlists or separate them from eaxh other.
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> Chances are, they are just there to buff their K/D & W/L ratio. I wish 343i will remove stat tracking from social playlists or separate them from eaxh other.
I made a thread about this that got over 60 replies. It was called ranked is dead check it out and add to the discussion if you’d like.
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> Chances are, they are just there to buff their K/D & W/L ratio. I wish 343i will remove stat tracking from social playlists or separate them from eaxh other.
Yea but it’s soo pointless . Like your beating people that are way less skilled than you. I mean I could do okay most of the time but I was having teammates that almost got no kills. So then they quit and probably don’t want to play anymore
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> Yea but it’s soo pointless . Like your beating people that are way less skilled than you. I mean I could do okay most of the time but I was having teammates that almost got no kills. So then they quit and probably don’t want to play anymore
People playing social for stats don’t care about their opponents skill level, it’s why they’re in social in the first place because loose parameters will do that. I’ve no issue with champions/onyx/diamonds playing social as long as they could care less about the stats, it’s when stats give incentives to match lower tier players is when it’s an issue but even then you’ll still see some go in just to piss people off for the fun of it. Social is supposed to be about ignoring ranks and stats, and 343 only met us half way.
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> > Yea but it’s soo pointless . Like your beating people that are way less skilled than you. I mean I could do okay most of the time but I was having teammates that almost got no kills. So then they quit and probably don’t want to play anymore
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> People playing social for stats don’t care about their opponents skill level, it’s why they’re in social in the first place because loose parameters will do that. I’ve no issue with champions/onyx/diamonds playing social as long as they could care less about the stats, it’s when stats give incentives to match lower tier players is when it’s an issue but even then you’ll still see some go in just to piss people off for the fun of it. Social is supposed to be about ignoring ranks and stats, and 343 only met us half way.
Yea I get that but if a playlist is truly social then there should be some games where you dominate and some games that are close. Like for me it’s not really fun to be destroying people that you know are new or inexperienced. The most fun I have is when it’s a close game and your able to pull out the win
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> > > > Chances are, they are just there to buff their K/D & W/L ratio. I wish 343i will remove stat tracking from social playlists or separate them from eaxh other.
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> > > Yea but it’s soo pointless . Like your beating people that are way less skilled than you. I mean I could do okay most of the time but I was having teammates that almost got no kills. So then they quit and probably don’t want to play anymore
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> > People playing social for stats don’t care about their opponents skill level, it’s why they’re in social in the first place because loose parameters will do that. I’ve no issue with champions/onyx/diamonds playing social as long as they could care less about the stats, it’s when stats give incentives to match lower tier players is when it’s an issue but even then you’ll still see some go in just to piss people off for the fun of it. Social is supposed to be about ignoring ranks and stats, and 343 only met us half way.
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> Yea I get that but if a playlist is truly social then there should be some games where you dominate and some games that are close. Like for me it’s not really fun to be destroying people that you know are new or inexperienced. The most fun I have is when it’s a close game and your able to pull out the win
Well that’s where ranked games come in as they’re supposed to be the close games if matched accordingly. Social and warzone are all over the place because of loose parameters matching people of various skill levels together. I view social as a way to ignore stats and ranks or even just experimenting on weapons I never/rarily use or I use it to warm up my aim before going into ranked play. Does it blow when you get blowout matches? I’m more iffy in that simply cuz it’s social and my perspective differs from most.
I love social playliste
Sadly I knew this was going to happen if restrictions weren’t implemented.
If they restricted the four spot fire team party to allow a party of only two max, like Gears 4 does for their social, then I think it could work out well. That way, you can have your buddy play with you, but the other two on your team are randoms.
Or like mentioned in a post above, just remove stat tracking, so its pointless to rack up kills in social.
This is how social playlists always worked. Halo 3 all over again. Wherever anybody got the idea that social meant easy or even balanced I do not know.
H5 just plays competitively. There is nothing that really can be done to change it. Sure for true social playlist they need to at least separate the stats or make it so social doesn’t effect your stats but even then the games will still feel competitive.
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> This is how social playlists always worked. Halo 3 all over again. Wherever anybody got the idea that social meant easy or even balanced I do not know.
well no not really, in halo 3 I played a ton of social because it is fun and had all the game types. there was a variety of skill levels in each game so that it wasn’t always lopsided. sure there were games where you could get blown out but that didn’t happen all the time. This sort of thing now is concerning for the newer players. When they are playing social trying to get better and getting destroyed every game. They will probably get turned off from the game. This is not a good thing because halo can’t afford to lose any more players.
They need to introduce party matching into the game and not just for social. it was one of the great things about halo 3. Full teams shouldn’t match randoms . you say that social shouldn’t be easy? well no it shouldn’t be easy but if its no different than a ranked environment than whats the point of it
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> well no not really, in halo 3 I played a ton of social because it is fun and had all the game types. there was a variety of skill levels in each game so that it wasn’t always lopsided. sure there were games where you could get blown out but that didn’t happen all the time. This sort of thing now is concerning for the newer players. When they are playing social trying to get better and getting destroyed every game. They will probably get turned off from the game. This is not a good thing because halo can’t afford to lose any more players.
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> They need to introduce party matching into the game and not just for social. it was one of the great things about halo 3. Full teams shouldn’t match randoms . you say that social shouldn’t be easy? well no it shouldn’t be easy but if its no different than a ranked environment than whats the point of it
I didn’t say it shouldn’t be easy - I only said that it never was in the past, at least not in my recollection. My Halo 3 experience was of social matches being far less balanced than ranked (which was already pretty unbalanced) due to looser search restrictions and an unholy amount of sandbagging and what people now call smurfing. If you remember Halo 3 differently then I envy you.
On the larger point, I agree 100% that these kinds of slaughters are bad for the game and especially bad for players who are new to the franchise - the exact people, as you rightly point out, that this game needs now more than ever. I’m not disagreeing that something needs to be done. I’m only being cynnical about whether anything will be done. Nothing was done back in the day and that was when they had a much higher population to work with. The smaller the population gets then the more of strain you put on skill-based matchmaking, and pretty soon none of it will work very well, social or otherwise.
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> well no not really, in halo 3 I played a ton of social because it is fun and had all the game types. there was a variety of skill levels in each game so that it wasn’t always lopsided. sure there were games where you could get blown out but that didn’t happen all the time. This sort of thing now is concerning for the newer players. When they are playing social trying to get better and getting destroyed every game. They will probably get turned off from the game. This is not a good thing because halo can’t afford to lose any more players.
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> They need to introduce party matching into the game and not just for social. it was one of the great things about halo 3. Full teams shouldn’t match randoms . you say that social shouldn’t be easy? well no it shouldn’t be easy but if its no different than a ranked environment than whats the point of it
Why is the hate always towards people who choose to play together? Teams are always made out to be the problem. Why not force Randoms to make parties? Most of the playlists are Team Game-types…keyword TEAM why are teams the ones that everyone screams need to be punished, and yes forcing them to play other teams meaning a longer wait time in between matches is a punishment. I understand that sometimes you can’t get your friends together or maybe they don’t play Halo but instead or raging about teams plug in your mic and talk to people and form a team. Most of the people I play Halo with now I met this way through playing rounds with them and then teaming up afterwards.
how would this be punishing teams?taking longer to search and find a fair match? teams playing teams and randoms playing randoms. if I’m playing in a team I don’t want to be matching solo players because its not going to be a good game. if your wanting to improve as a team then you need to play other teams. Do you think that pros would get very much out of matching solo players in arena? if they can’t find a scrim then they need to play arena to try and improve as a team. I have nothing against teams, teamwork is great. but it isn’t always easy or realistic to find a team. Depending on where you live and time of day you play. A lot less people actually use their mic in this game, its not like the older halos where everyone had a mic. i wasn’t raging was just trying to create a discussion
Ah yes, another thread where someone is complaining about social playlists because they lost. Guess what, you can’t banish players to ranked playlists because they’re better than you. Most are just in there with friends to relax, and I know it’s a shocker, but sometimes someone’s relaxed is going to be much better than you or me. Go ahead, have 343 remove any effects on kda but I guarantee that it won’t fix anything. Players are coming to those playlists to relax with friends, not stat boost the meaningless overall kda.
Maybe try to enjoy them because they’re social and worry less about winning. There should be no pressure to do so in these playlists.