I’m so sick of losing CSR to teammates who have a ball allergy so severe it caps their K/D at a +2 so they can only go 10-8 with 0 seconds of ball time.
Or fix the damn ranked system so we lose 0 CSR for TEAMMATE PERFORMANCE. I’m not responsible for the potato head next to me.
You already have it. AR starts and BR starts are both in the team slayer playlist.
I hate people that treat social like it’s ranked. Ya’ll need to smoke grass and learn to relax when you play games instead of raging 24/7 every week of the year.
Sounds like consequences for actions you choose to go by, aka solo queuing and letting an AI pick your teammate for you instead of picking your your teammates yourself. You choose this upon yourself unfortunately, so #2 is completely out of the question.
No. That’s a gamble, with a chance at langing on a BR start game mode. Not a dedicated BR start playlist. For example, precision slayer, SWAT, big team battle. All BR start in the past, with the exception of Halo Reach where the BR was replaced with the DMR, and Halo 4/5 where the BR was an option along side the DMR.
We have no dedicated BR start social playlists.
I’m not a gambler. They can take their “chance” at BR start and sit on it.
I play for fun. Losing isn’t fun in ranked, generally.
I’ve had fun at times while losing, but the rank aspect of it kind of saps that possibility of having fun while losing.
Seeing that rank go down out weighs the laughs I had because I accidentally repulsed 2 of my teammates and camo off the map on Recharge because I forgot I had repulsor and tried to activate the camo I didn’t actually pick up.
The mistake that rewarded us with the laugh for a brief moment, was punished. Losing = not fun in ranked even if you had a good time doing it.
Not a consequence at all. It would be had I chosen the teammates for myself, who went negative and didn’t help with objective. The fact that the game’s AI is pairing me with them, is a game issue. Not my problem.
If I was able to queue with friends and find games, don’t you think I would be doing so? Why would I not want to 4 stack with everyone on the team actually being almost even and at the same level skill wise?
The game doesn’t allow for it. In case you haven’t noticed this is the most anti social Halo experience to date
There may be a solo queue or whatever but Infinite’s matchmaker is not designed for the solo player. Unfortunately our choices are limited, it’s either squad up or suffer the consequences.
You’re delusional if you even remotely believe an AI matchmaker would be reliably able to pair you up with solid teammates. What do you think it’s going to do, read your mind and go “oh, these two are perfect”. It can’t tell how you and others enjoy to play the game and who you will work well with. You’re in a world of make believe and fantasy if you even consider that a possibility.
and this very much is consequences for your actions, you gave the game your ok with whatever teammates it gives you the instant you hit queue for a match alone. Stop being an thick headed and accept this truth. Unrealistic expectations will always be met with dissatisfaction, you will always have a bad time until you start wising up and accepting reality.
and there are plenty of ways to meet people and party up both in and out of the game. You not doing it is nothing short of being lazy.
That’s not what you asked for. I quote, “Give us social BR starts already” and
“Social BR starts when?” I’m not a mind reader. Unless you say you want a playlist, I’m not going to assume you are asking for a playlist. Especially since 90% of your post is a rant about random teammates.
Swat has not been BR only since Reach where Swatnoms (swat pistols) was introduced. This playlist has evolved to have more variants since 2010. Even Halo 2 and 3, in MCC, now also have more variants like Swat pistols.
BTB has been a mix of BR starts, AR starts, BR & AR mix starts depending on the game or mage mode within the playlist.
Don’t be modest. You say you’re a solo player. That’s big time gambling, playa.
It’s both your issue and your problem. Solo queuing in any game will give you more dumb teammates than skilled.
While this game wont let you search in Ranked with teammates who are much higher or much lower than each other in skill rating, it would not effect you and your friends that are as you say “almost even and at the same level skill.” Even so, i’d have to agree that this system is very anti social and bad.
You can pretty reliably get BR starts in Team Slayer.
But the real problem is that AR starts and BR starts are wildly different in this game. The AR and Sidekick are way too fast of a ttk for spawn weapons. They imbalance the sandbox when you start with them, because there’s no reason to pick up most weapons when you have them.
The BR is a notably slower ttk and therefore all map pickups are viable as a result.
Personally I feel like BR starts add alot to making the game feel sweaty.
That said, I wish 343 stuck to their guns with keeping Ranked where the BR starts are and Social where AR starts are and keep the game modes the same between the two. But the BR starts are leeching into social.
I’d appreciate if they just made an AR start playlist and a BR start playlist. I don’t like how random it is right now. Let the BR start crowd have their modes and let the AR start crowd have theirs.
No don’t give us Social BR Starts at all times. If you want BR Starts go play Rank Matchmaking. We don’t need the same problem from MCC to be in Halo Infinite where it becomes pointless to play Rank Matchmaking.
Social Matchmaking should be about a fun gameplay experience while using weapons that aren’t constantly used while making memories of something different to play.
Rank Matchmaking should be all about Powerful weapon starts while delivering that competitive gameplay experience that Halo is known for. BRs Starts and No Motion Sensor Gameplay Gametypes is fun but should only be available in one place.
SWATnums was introduced in Halo 3. I’ve been playing SWATnums since 2008. SWATnums isn’t new nor is it a problem. It’s expected in the playlist.
That’s why I specified “SWAT” being BR start, with the exception of Halo Reach where the BR was replaced with the DMR as the main starting weapon for comp and social precision weapon starts. And there being no option to choose the BR via loadouts like there was in Halo 4.
In Halo 4 you had SWAT (loadout starts) or SWATnums (pistol only). Halo 5 introduced the locked, rotating game modes.
Mangler SWAT and Stalker SWAT being introduced are what muddy up the waters so much for Infinite. You have a CHANCE at a 25% drop rate for true BR SWAT. Not the usual chance at a 50% drop rate.
Sometimes you go 9 games straight without touching a BR. Sometimes you get BR SWAT every other game. It’s inconsistent.
It’s not that it won’t allow for it. It’s that we simply can’t find matches when we search together. I can’t search with more than 1 pother person at a time and actually find a match in a reasonable amount of time.
Sometimes it takes 5 minutes, searching as a 4 stack. Sometimes it takes 2 searches. It’ll tell us we couldn’t be matched and then it’ll be an instant pop the second time we search.
Sometimes we get to just sit there searching for a half hour and never find matches.
Playing with friends isn’t viable at all in ranked. At least not in Diamond. Maybe in Onyx, since 90% of the remaining population is in Onyx.
BR starts in social go back as far as Halo 3 (possibly Halo 2, I don’t recall). AR start was never a thing in Halo 3’s BTB due to the size of maps. The AR was never viable. AR was also never “mandatory” as a starting weapon in Reach, Halo 4 or Halo 5…
This is the first instance we’ve had where loadouts weren’t a factor, and the playlists are AR starts exclusively.
If they were to nerf the AR (cause it’s OP as it stands), you would see a lot more social/BTB players begging for BR starts. They would never be close enough to enemy spartans to actually do damage with the AR, since it’s a close to close-mid range weapon. Traditionally speaking. It had maybe 2X the range of the Shotgun in past Halo games.
The range on the AR in Infinite is beyond busted. It’s not supposed to be able to cross map
We either need loadouts re-introduced, or BR start exclusive playlists for those that want them.
You know what they already have a place with BR Starts which is Rank Matchmaking.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Rank BTB making a return in Halo Infinite as long as it’s with No Motion Sensor. Especially since Social BTB is now a thing. Now is the perfect opportunity to bring back Rank Big Team Battle and have players spawn in with the BR. That way these stupid arguments will disappear .
The only reason why people want BR Starts is because how overwhelming powerful and useful it is compared to other weapons. Nowadays people that play Halo don’t want to learn the maps and find different ways to take out there enemy. They just want to point and shoot without learning anything which turns into stale gameplay experience for everyone. Which in the long run makes people stop playing the game. Yeah, core audience will continue to play but that’s not enough to keep the game alive.
As for the whole weapon thing one of the biggest problems with Halo is if all the weapons where base off the Lore and Sci-Fi Universe more then these conversations asking for BR Starts wouldn’t even be a thing. Halo Armory for weapons doesn’t make a bit of since at all. I’ve been playing Halo since the beginning and hoping that one day the Halo Armory for weapons will actually start making some type of sense. But sadly, that day has still yet to come which is depressing because Halo has so much potential to becoming a huge game again in the FPS Community. But when you have Humanity Armory dominating everything else in every single game for multiplayer it becomes repetitive and stale. Which pushes people away from the game.
That’s the problem. Some of us just want to start and finish the match with a BR, and not have to suffer the “ranked” aspect of seeing the CSR gains and losses after matches. It takes away from the game itself.
There’s a time and place for ranked. The time isn’t 24/7.
As a competitive person, I don’t want to see my rank go down if I’m playing like trash. I want to be able to hop in a social playlist, and just play like a bot.
Can’t do that because we don’t have a BR start in social yet.
What are you not getting? I won’t touch AR start. Period. There are countless other players out there like myself.
Until we have a BR start social, we have to treat ranked as social. It’s bad for us, because we’re punished for it, and it’s bad for everyone else in our matches at the times when we’re “playing social” in ranked playlists.
BR start socials aren’t a new concept and should have never been neglected in the first place.
I agree in some ways like I wouldn’t mind seeing a Rank BTB making a return in Halo Infinite with BR Starts and No Motion Sensor. Which would literally be perfect for everyone. If you want BR Starts play Rank and AR Starts for social everyone wins.
As for what you said about AR Starts in H3 BTB it was there as well as SMG Starts in BTB for Halo 2 Classic. It may have not been there the entire time but it was a option at one point.
BR Starts in Social Matchmaking is bad in all types of ways only because how overwhelming powerful it is as a starting weapon. If the BR wasn’t so powerful you wouldn’t be asking for it or anyone else at that matter. Which is one of the biggest problems with MCC Matchmaking right now. By giving players the option to play with strong weapon starts in Social Matchmaking makes the gameplay experience pointless for other weapons to shine. If the Battle Rifle was weak as its supposed to be in Halo I don’t think anyone would have a problem with starting off with it.
The point is BR Starts should only be in Rank Matchmaking bro that way people like yourself that want to sit back and chill can do so in Social Matchmaking and still get countless opportunities to use other weapons besides the OP human armory.
I would like to see a BR social playlist just to have a quick and easy way to warm up for ranked without rolling the dice on the current Team Slayer playlist or having to make a custom game with bots. Seems like people that prefer AR start don’t like having them mixed up either, so why not just split them and have one of each?