I suddenly realised the lack of brutes please could someone fill me in on why they are no more?
In civil war without the Covenant or their leader and are fighting for control. Ergo they aren’t in Halo 4 for that reason.
If I had to guess, I would say that the Group of covenant faced in Halo 4, were outcasts or a discarded/fanatical branch of the covenant, that probably haven’t been in contact with the main forces in a long time. After High Charity was taken/compromised, you can probably bet there was a lot of chaos throughout the covenant, and really it isn’t a far stretch to think that only a fraction of the covenant’s original forces would be rallied to activate the Ark. But who really knows, I don’t think 343 has given any official word on the subject, less it’s been addressed in one of the newer novels. Sorry I don’t have a clear answer.
They got killed by the guardians.
I think its generally assumed that they are engaged in intraspecies civil war. The Brutes never seemed too intelligent, so my guess is that they might bomb themselves back to the stone age again.
> I suddenly realised the lack of brutes please could someone fill me in on why they are no more?
If you want to take a look at what the Halo franchise is doing with the Brutes, they’re trying to get rid of them.
Halo 3 was the pinnacle of Brute and their weapons technology. In Halo Reach you see less Brute weapons and less of a Brute presence. In this game all you see is one cinematic sequence of a Brute and then the Gravity Hammer, which everyone knows the obvious reason why 343i has it in Halo 4 (Rooster Teeth). So in short, the Halo franchise is trying to get ride of that element of the game.
> If I had to guess, I would say that the Group of covenant faced in Halo 4, were outcasts or a discarded/fanatical branch of the covenant, that probably haven’t been in contact with the main forces in a long time. After High Charity was taken/compromised, you can probably bet there was a lot of chaos throughout the covenant, and really it isn’t a far stretch to think that only a fraction of the covenant’s original forces would be rallied to activate the Ark. But who really knows, I don’t think 343 has given any official word on the subject, less it’s been addressed in one of the newer novels. Sorry I don’t have a clear answer.
This is for both you and the OP.
The Storm Covenant is the group you fight in Halo 4. They are a fanatical splinter group of the Covenant that refused to go along with the truce.
The game didn’t really say much about this, I know. But that’s what’s going on with the Covenant.
As for the Brutes, they’ve been on the losing end of the war with the Elites for years now, not to mention that there is plenty of infighting. The Brutes simply aren’t a threat anymore.
I assume brutes will be in halo 5. The storm is the 3rd faction of elites and is controlled by a very smart elite with much race pride. He uses the lesser races and hates brutes humans and prophets so wouldn’t work with any (though he isn’t against using them to get what he wants, He’s intelligent like that). They were mentioned a few times in the second of the Kilo-five trilogy, so I know they are not gone completely.
As far as I know there are 4 factions of covenant.
3 are controlled by the elites, some such as the arbiter and Telcem’s factions still have some brutes as farm hands, Jul’s has none. The prophets are MIA but assumed they still control some brutes, and it is all together possible the brutes have also fractioned and along with the small numbers loyal to elites there is most likely a large faction in league with the prophets and a large portion that is now independent.
Oni right now is working on a destabilizing effort to help back telcam and the arbiter at the same time pitting both against one another to minimize their over all threat to humanity. I wouldn’t be surprised if in Halo 5 they touch on this and even enlist the brutes some how.
> I assume brutes will be in halo 5. The storm is the 3rd faction of elites and is controlled by a very smart elite with much race pride. He uses the lesser races and hates brutes humans and prophets so wouldn’t work with any (though he isn’t against using them to get what he wants, He’s intelligent like that). They were mentioned a few times in the second of the Kilo-five trilogy, so I know they are not gone completely.
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> As far as I know there are 4 factions of covenant.
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> 3 are controlled by the elites, some such as the arbiter and Telcem’s factions still have some brutes as farm hands, Jul’s has none. The prophets are MIA but assumed they still control some brutes, and it is all together possible the brutes have also fractioned and along with the small numbers loyal to elites there is most likely a large faction in league with the prophets and a large portion that is now independent.
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> Oni right now is working on a destabilizing effort to help back telcam and the arbiter at the same time pitting both against one another to minimize their over all threat to humanity. I wouldn’t be surprised if in Halo 5 they touch on this and even enlist the brutes some how.
ive never heard of the 4 factions or the kilo-five series but from what i read from the books especially in the book : halo glass lands, ONI is indeed trying to destabilize the peace treaty while at the same time trying to look like they really do want peace.
ONI on one side is giving weapons to a certain group of elites who are agasint the treaty and at the same time ONI is also sending scientists to the Elite’s home world to examine them and learn from them (and learn they’re weaknesses)
War is more profitable to the humans like most wars are in the human history
BUT to answer the main question, the only way the brutes managed to fight is because they copied technology from the elites and the huragoks (or what ever they’re name is) they’re not smart enough to develop the weapons they needed to declare war without so they joined the covenant. And now since the covenant is disbanded in a way the brutes probably have a couple of ships at they’re disposal nothing more…and even some of them remain servants to the elites.
simple end of Halo 3 elites went to finish the hethens off they did
double post sorry, don’t know how to delete this entirely. read below.
> > I assume brutes will be in halo 5. The storm is the 3rd faction of elites and is controlled by a very smart elite with much race pride. He uses the lesser races and hates brutes humans and prophets so wouldn’t work with any (though he isn’t against using them to get what he wants, He’s intelligent like that). They were mentioned a few times in the second of the Kilo-five trilogy, so I know they are not gone completely.
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> > As far as I know there are 4 factions of covenant.
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> > 3 are controlled by the elites, some such as the arbiter and Telcem’s factions still have some brutes as farm hands, Jul’s has none. The prophets are MIA but assumed they still control some brutes, and it is all together possible the brutes have also fractioned and along with the small numbers loyal to elites there is most likely a large faction in league with the prophets and a large portion that is now independent.
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> > Oni right now is working on a destabilizing effort to help back telcam and the arbiter at the same time pitting both against one another to minimize their over all threat to humanity. I wouldn’t be surprised if in Halo 5 they touch on this and even enlist the brutes some how.
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> ive never heard of the 4 factions or the kilo-five series but from what i read from the books especially in the book : halo glass lands, ONI is indeed trying to destabilize the peace treaty while at the same time trying to look like they really do want peace.
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> ONI on one side is giving weapons to a certain group of elites who are agasint the treaty and at the same time ONI is also sending scientists to the Elite’s home world to examine them and learn from them (and learn they’re weaknesses)
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> War is more profitable to the humans like most wars are in the human history
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> BUT to answer the main question, the only way the brutes managed to fight is because they copied technology from the elites and the huragoks (or what ever they’re name is) they’re not smart enough to develop the weapons they needed to declare war without so they joined the covenant. And now since the covenant is disbanded in a way the brutes probably have a couple of ships at they’re disposal nothing more…and even some of them remain servants to the elites.
The Brutes history actually mirrors a worst case scenario many think WE are currently headed towards. They achieved space flight and nuclear armament all on their own then bombed themselves back to the stone age. When the covenant absorbed them they were back to the industrial revolution stage. So, although not as advanced, they do have the genetic potential to gain these things on their own. In contrast both the Elites’ and prophets both only attained space travel through conscripting forrunner tech.
As far as the 4 factions go, it could be more, those are just my ideas. The halo official status now are these.
The covenenant, led by the prophets containing brutes and a small number of elites along with all the other client races: current status unkown
The elites, control mostly elites but still work with all of the client races including brutes.: current status civil war
The storm: led by Jul, run by elites but also some of the client races, including jackles grunts and hunters but possibly more with the exception of the brutes. current status occupying requim.
Those three are the only official groups that I know of. I assume there are more, some of which I stated in my first post but I wasn’'t clear that those groups were speculative.
> They got killed by the guardians.
Well, with the new Covenant that a sect of the Elites are forming, I’m guessing they wouldn’t invite their Brute archenemies. Sounds simple enough to me. Seriously people, lrn2canon.
The splinter faction of the covenant is lead by elites. I doubt they would want the aliens that slaughtered most of their brothers in their alliance.
Ok…when you open the bomb doors in the begining of the game…the elite at the top…dont touch him…dont get noticed…he will walk and talk to the ohter elite(s)…something bout how the invasion was done…the brutes were gone and that all was left is the demon (master cheif) and the false leaders (prophets)
One question answers the OP’s question pretty accurately.
Why would Brutes be part of an Elite commanded fleet? They hate each other to the core.
> One question answers the OP’s question pretty accurately.
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> Why would Brutes be part of an Elite commanded fleet? They hate each other to the core.
> Ok…when you open the bomb doors in the begining of the game…the elite at the top…dont touch him…dont get noticed…he will walk and talk to the ohter elite(s)…something bout how the invasion was done…the brutes were gone and that all was left is the demon (master cheif) and the false leaders (prophets)
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They all went on vacation. Tea was served.
> They all went on vacation. Tea was served.
Oh god XD I can now imagine like 10 9ft Brutes sitting around a small pink table drinking tea from small tea cups