I am going to assume the game is going to launch at full retail price of $60.
What exactly are we getting for that price?
-Single Campaign
-No coop until season 2
-No forge until season 3
-Theater?
-Firefight?
-Custom games?
Am I missing anything?
They’re expecting people to pay full price for an early access game.
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> I am going to assume the game is going to launch at full retail price of $60.
> What exactly are we getting for that price?
> -Single Campaign
> -No coop until season 2
> -No forge until season 3
> -Theater?
> -Firefight?
> -Custom games?
>
> Am I missing anything?
Or you take a Game Pass trial to experience all that (and the hundreds of other amazing games) before making a decision on if you want to buy
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> > I am going to assume the game is going to launch at full retail price of $60.
> > What exactly are we getting for that price?
> > -Single Campaign
> > -No coop until season 2
> > -No forge until season 3
> > -Theater?
> > -Firefight?
> > -Custom games?
> >
> > Am I missing anything?
>
> Or you take a Game Pass trial to experience all that (and the hundreds of other amazing games) before making a decision on if you want to buy
Not an option for Steam.
At the moment, probably Campaign and nothing more. Multiplayer is gonna be free, Theater is likely there, along with Customs. Firefight is up in the air but I’m not gonna hold my breath for it.
And assuming since Halo 5 Forge on PC was free, I doubt they’re gonna charge people to use Forge mode. So chances are, the $60 is for Campaign and Campaign Co-Op come Season 2.
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> > I am going to assume the game is going to launch at full retail price of $60.
> > What exactly are we getting for that price?
> > -Single Campaign
> > -No coop until season 2
> > -No forge until season 3
> > -Theater?
> > -Firefight?
> > -Custom games?
> >
> > Am I missing anything?
>
> Or you take a Game Pass trial to experience all that (and the hundreds of other amazing games) before making a decision on if you want to buy
I like gamepasses price (don’t use it though) but hate how they’re transitioning everything to it to make it so you no longer own games and are -Yoinked!- if you don’t have an internet connection.
The thing is, we don’t know what all is included in the multiplayer. We have no idea what gametypes there will be, how many maps, what the fracture events will be like. We don’t know how long the campaign is, how fun it is, how good the story is. We can’t just keep making baseless assumptions about everything. I know it’s hard, but we just gotta wait and see before making blanket judgments about the game.
I’m curious to see how many hours of campaign there will be, I’m assuming a lot more than any previous halo because of the map scale. Other than that, maybe it’s more so an investment because of the live service thing and the trickle of more content over time.
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> The thing is, we don’t know what all is included in the multiplayer. We have no idea what gametypes there will be, how many maps, what the fracture events will be like. We don’t know how long the campaign is, how fun it is, how good the story is. We can’t just keep making baseless assumptions about everything. I know it’s hard, but we just gotta wait and see before making blanket judgments about the game.
just going off 343i history I just assume it’s bad and sadly that’s usually correct.
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> > The thing is, we don’t know what all is included in the multiplayer. We have no idea what gametypes there will be, how many maps, what the fracture events will be like. We don’t know how long the campaign is, how fun it is, how good the story is. We can’t just keep making baseless assumptions about everything. I know it’s hard, but we just gotta wait and see before making blanket judgments about the game.
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> just going off 343i history I just assume it’s bad and sadly that’s usually correct.
Open your mind. 343 isn’t some nameless mass. It’s made up of people and people change. Almost no one is left from the H4 and H5 days and those who are left have spent the past decade learning from those mistakes and making amends.
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> > > I am going to assume the game is going to launch at full retail price of $60.
> > > What exactly are we getting for that price?
> > > -Single Campaign
> > > -No coop until season 2
> > > -No forge until season 3
> > > -Theater?
> > > -Firefight?
> > > -Custom games?
> > >
> > > Am I missing anything?
> >
> > Or you take a Game Pass trial to experience all that (and the hundreds of other amazing games) before making a decision on if you want to buy
>
> I like gamepasses price (don’t use it though) but hate how they’re transitioning everything to it to make it so you no longer own games and are -Yoinked!- if you don’t have an internet connection.
Thing with Game Pass, though, it doesn’t prevent you from buying games you want to own, but I have triedso many games because of Game Pass which I never would have otherwise.
The Xbox Game Studio ones for the most part I don’t even need to buy to keep as if I keep my subscription they’ll always be there, but the others I can (at a decent discount) if they’re ever about to leave the service.
If you’re making good use of the Home Xbox setting or Home PC setting even Game Pass isn’t that bad from the always online perspective. Again though, if you want to prioritise single player offline experiences, you still have the right to buy and own them. Game Pass doesn’t change that. It’s about choice for gamers
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> > > I am going to assume the game is going to launch at full retail price of $60.
> > > What exactly are we getting for that price?
> > > -Single Campaign
> > > -No coop until season 2
> > > -No forge until season 3
> > > -Theater?
> > > -Firefight?
> > > -Custom games?
> > >
> > > Am I missing anything?
> >
> > Or you take a Game Pass trial to experience all that (and the hundreds of other amazing games) before making a decision on if you want to buy
>
> Not an option for Steam.
You can still do exactly as he says and try it on gamepass on PC, nothing is stopping you, you do have a choice.
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> I am going to assume the game is going to launch at full retail price of $60.
> What exactly are we getting for that price?
> -Single Campaign
> -No coop until season 2
> -No forge until season 3
> -Theater?
> -Firefight?
> -Custom games?
>
> Am I missing anything?
I guarantee they won’t have firefight at all, and theater won’t be functional at launch either. Custom games will probably be bot-only or something
You can say the same about Battlefield 2042, that has no campaign only multiplayer, with about 3 maps. And EA are charging $60 to $70 for that. And the sad thing is people a still buying it and not crying their eyes out over no campaign. You are paying for a lot more that what most games, deliver and charge now.
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> I am going to assume the game is going to launch at full retail price of $60.
> What exactly are we getting for that price?
> -Single Campaign
> -No coop until season 2
> -No forge until season 3
> -Theater?
> -Firefight?
> -Custom games?
>
> Am I missing anything?
This is what I’ve been wondering.
According to different insiders this game is actually pretty short for a Halo game. There’s some evidence to back this up in the fact that Joseph Staten beat the game twice in one week.
So we’re paying $60 for a singleplayer experience that doesn’t have co-op (and MIGHT lack other features on launch day) and sounds like it’s only going to be 5-7 hours long?
Sony has $60 singleplayer games too, but they’re around 20 hours long and usually don’t come out as unfinished products.
You’re paying for an experience, not a product.
their really releasing two products here.
so i wonder what will be tied to what, i feel like it doesn’t make a lot of sense to have forge, custom games, game browser, theater, etc tied to campaign. so i wonder if maybe those are going to be free features.
and then i can kinda see them tie firefight or other miscellaneous PvE mode to campaign.
… but yeah, i can’t personally say i wouldn’t buy 5 seconds of more halo lore for $60, but it sure sounds like $60 is only gonna be 5 seconds of lore and maybe the keys to certain features.
i can see why thats upsetting, easily, but damn do i love me some halo lore, just short of reading -blamite- halo fan fiction.
i mean, i find myself repeatedly checking the release date to rubicon, like, I’d be fine if halo was just a novel series and not a game at this point, sometimes they just milk things to death but also kill off their actually beloved stories. -blam- sega.
but to reply to the main topic, i personally doubt $60 comes with even as much is being speculated here. betcha its just the next installment of lore and that’s it, for $60, I’d hope its at least as long as 3 books, each of those books being $20, and taking ~9 hours to complete. so book wise, hopefully its about 9 hours of lore and not like, 7 hours of side missions.
[edit] though to be fair like all of the books are like 8 to 9 hours long, with audio books, so 3 books would be ~24 hours, so theres no way it could surpass any expectations in any sort of direction, so since we kinda already know we’re gonna dislike it, we should at least try to enjoy it, cause, i don’t see us on some other websites forums contemplating our continued love/hate relationship with a cash cow.
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> I am going to assume the game is going to launch at full retail price of $60.
> What exactly are we getting for that price?
> -Single Campaign
> -No coop until season 2
> -No forge until season 3
> -Theater?
> -Firefight?
> -Custom games?
>
> Am I missing anything?
60 dollars just doesn’t go as far as it once did.
If I were you, i would not buy the game.
I dont understand what the big deal is. If you are mad about no forge and co op, DO NOT BUY THE GAME.
If you don’t mind the delay, then BUY THE GAME.
I will be buying day 1. I am never gonna play co op campaign and i never have. I like to play as cannon as possible at the hardest difficulty and enjoying all the scenery and 100% completing the game.
if a friend or family member asks me to play coop with them, i would reject them and say “sorry i like playing campaign solo.”
And I dont want to wait for forge. i want to play BTB, 4v4 HCS arena, and campaign as soon as possible.
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> > I am going to assume the game is going to launch at full retail price of $60.
> > What exactly are we getting for that price?
> > -Single Campaign
> > -No coop until season 2
> > -No forge until season 3
> > -Theater?
> > -Firefight?
> > -Custom games?
> >
> > Am I missing anything?
>
> This is what I’ve been wondering.
>
> According to different insiders this game is actually pretty short for a Halo game. There’s some evidence to back this up in the fact that Joseph Staten beat the game twice in one week.
>
> So we’re paying $60 for a singleplayer experience that doesn’t have co-op (and MIGHT lack other features on launch day) and sounds like it’s only going to be 5-7 hours long?
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> Sony has $60 singleplayer games too, but they’re around 20 hours long and usually don’t come out as unfinished products.
I could probably play through all of the Halo games twice in a week, if I was getting payed 8 hours a day to play them.
The truth is, we don’t know exactly what will be packaged into the campaign and multiplayer sides of the game, so its kind premature to to say if it is worth it or not.
I’m optimistic that the campaign will be longer than the usual 8-9 mission average, I just hope that it isn’t packed out with making us run from one side of the map to the other, just to bulk out the play time (which is obviously a very real possibility).
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> > Or you take a Game Pass trial to experience all that (and the hundreds of other amazing games) before making a decision on if you want to buy
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> Not an option for Steam.
Then don’t play on Steam. If you have a PC you can just play on game pass.