So... The Didact (Spoilers)

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Anyway, after watching all the terminals. It seems the Didact in the Cryptum was the Ur-Didact and he was put in there prior to the Halo’s firing and the Librarian should still be alive, the Borenstellar Didact must have activated the Halo’s on one of the Arks and should still be kicking around… Am I missing anything?

I was almost certain the Ur-Didact would have been infected by the flood, but I don’t know now…

Faber must have made off with him but I don’t get why they dropped the humans off on the planet. And at that time, Bornstellar was elsewhere correct?

And does anyone know how many people was lost during the last mission of Halo 4?

And with the death of Cortana, I’m betting my money on that she was copied by the Librarian AI. I’m basing that on the Covenant. They had the ability to copy AI’s, Cortana had that ability, and chances are that ability came from the Forerunners. With the importance the Librarian told the Chief about him and Cortana, it would be doubtful she’s completely gone.

And Halo isn’t Halo without the pair.

And with the terminals I now understand how the Didact could be conceived as ‘evil’. I had thought that impossible, that the Mantle was too important to every Forerunner that would be impossible, but with how he said that Forerunners would always hold the Mantle no matter what seemed like he would kill anyone that opposed him. And that he still had a deep seeded hatred towards humanity.

But what I don’t get is why in the Forerunner Saga was he more timid and I don’t know if he questioned his decisions and opinions of us or not, but he didn’t seem so super jerky as we see him. In addition to that I don’t understand the timeline between the novels and him composing everyone and being a general pain in the -Yoink- of the Librarian, although now that I think of it, it would be after the second novel.

But anyway, what’s your take on it all and whatever I’ve posted, and please correct me on anything I’m wrong on.

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I’m really confused about these didacts too, as in halo 3 terminals it seemed the didact lit the rings still while still together with the libarian and they both die but in halo four he is trapped by her. Who lit the rings and if it was a different didact the libarian would probably dislike him as his hate would have still been there…

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The Ur-Didact is in Halo. He is seen defeating ancient humanity, something Bornstellar wasn’t even alive for. The Librarian stunned him and put him in the Cryptum before the Halos were fired.

Bortellar-Didact accompanied her on her indexing and eventually fired the array out of necessity.

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I posted this in another thread, but it seems applicable here:

There were only 2 Didacts, according to the books anyways.

The first (and original) was said to have been killed by a HALO ring activation at the Master Builders orders.

The second was Bornstellar, who was in the builder rate but was imprinted by the original didact to change him into the warrior class, eventually culminating in Bornstellar becoming the new didact once the original supposedly dies.

The didact in HALO 4 isnt Bornstellar, because bornstellar had a soft spot for humans and didnt harbor the typical disdain for humanity that the original didact had due to the human-forerunner war.

With that in mind, and based on the fact that we find out via the halo 3 terminals that bornstellar dies after he activates the HALO array, it seems the didact in HALO 4 is the original.

The original didact didnt want to destroy humanity just for the sake of it. He was still trying to build an army by turning all of humanity into prometheans.

So I would guess that there is some greater evil out there that the original didact knew about and was working to prepare for both before his imprisonment on requiem and after his release.

Also based on the book Primordium, the preecursor seems to indicate that they engineered the flood, so I would imagine that the next enemies we’ll be seeing will be the precursors and the flood, perhaps a more advanced form than what we saw from the HALO rings.

Also remember that humanity already knows how to prevent the flood from taking over a host. Sgt Johnson is actually infected by the flood on intilation 04, but isnt converted because of the effects of the Spartan I program on his nervous system.

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> I posted this in another thread, but it seems applicable here:
>
> There were only 2 Didacts, according to the books anyways.
>
> The first (and original) was said to have been killed by a HALO ring activation at the Master Builders orders.
>
> The second was Bornstellar, who was in the builder rate but was imprinted by the original didact to change him into the warrior class, eventually culminating in Bornstellar becoming the new didact once the original supposedly dies.
>
> The didact in HALO 4 isnt Bornstellar, because bornstellar had a soft spot for humans and didnt harbor the typical disdain for humanity that the original didact had due to the human-forerunner war.
>
> With that in mind, and based on the fact that we find out via the halo 3 terminals that bornstellar dies after he activates the HALO array, it seems the didact in HALO 4 is the original.
>
> The original didact didnt want to destroy humanity just for the sake of it. He was still trying to build an army by turning all of humanity into prometheans.
>
> So I would guess that there is some greater evil out there that the original didact knew about and was working to prepare for both before his imprisonment on requiem and after his release.
>
> Also based on the book Primordium, the preecursor seems to indicate that they engineered the flood, so I would imagine that the next enemies we’ll be seeing will be the precursors and the flood, perhaps a more advanced form than what we saw from the HALO rings.
>
> Also remember that humanity already knows how to prevent the flood from taking over a host. Sgt Johnson is actually infected by the flood on intilation 04, but isnt converted because of the effects of the Spartan I program on his nervous system.

Thank you so much! I was so confused.

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> The Ur-Didact is in Halo. He is seen defeating ancient humanity, something Bornstellar wasn’t even alive for. The Librarian stunned him and put him in the Cryptum before the Halos were fired.
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> Bortellar-Didact accompanied her on her indexing and eventually fired the array out of necessity.

I did say the Ur-Didact was imprisoned before the firing, but I’m just curious on the timeline between primordium and the imprisonment.

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> I posted this in another thread, but it seems applicable here:
>
> There were only 2 Didacts, according to the books anyways.
>
> The first (and original) was said to have been killed by a HALO ring activation at the Master Builders orders.
>
> The second was Bornstellar, who was in the builder rate but was imprinted by the original didact to change him into the warrior class, eventually culminating in Bornstellar becoming the new didact once the original supposedly dies.
>
> The didact in HALO 4 isnt Bornstellar, because bornstellar had a soft spot for humans and didnt harbor the typical disdain for humanity that the original didact had due to the human-forerunner war.
>
> With that in mind, and based on the fact that we find out via the halo 3 terminals that bornstellar dies after he activates the HALO array, it seems the didact in HALO 4 is the original.
>
> The original didact didnt want to destroy humanity just for the sake of it. He was still trying to build an army by turning all of humanity into prometheans.
>
> So I would guess that there is some greater evil out there that the original didact knew about and was working to prepare for both before his imprisonment on requiem and after his release.
>
> Also based on the book Primordium, the preecursor seems to indicate that they engineered the flood, so I would imagine that the next enemies we’ll be seeing will be the precursors and the flood, perhaps a more advanced form than what we saw from the HALO rings.
>
> Also remember that humanity already knows how to prevent the flood from taking over a host. Sgt Johnson is actually infected by the flood on intilation 04, but isnt converted because of the effects of the Spartan I program on his nervous system.

I had read your post but did not entirely buy it. No offense.

Borenstellar should not have died from the Halo Array, unless there is a different place where he could simultaneously activate all Halo’s, he would be safe on the Ark.

And yes, we do have the start of the puzzle to prevent infection, I’d think it would be as simple as implanting something that disrupts our nervous system when being in contact with the flood, but it must be more complicated than that.

With the Didact still alive, I doubt the Precursors will be the new enemy after 343i just introduced a new group of belligerents, all the Precursors would have would be Flood, and they could have new class forms of Flood, but I think we will see more of the Didact working with the Storm faction. Storm must have lost a great deal of their ships and the Didact lost most of his Knights… So almost by default the Didact may need to use the Sangheili.

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> Sgt Johnson is actually infected by the flood on intilation 04, but isnt converted because of the effects of the Spartan I program on his nervous system.

That’s actually wrong. He’s immune to Flood infection through Borin’s syndrome (yes it’s fake). He got it by spamming too many Plasma Grenades and it screwed with his genetic make up so bad even the Flood can’t infect him.

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> > Sgt Johnson is actually infected by the flood on intilation 04, but isnt converted because of the effects of the Spartan I program on his nervous system.
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> That’s actually wrong. He’s immune to Flood infection through Borin’s syndrome (yes it’s fake). He got it by spamming too many Plasma Grenades and it screwed with his genetic make up so bad even the Flood can’t infect him.

You can’t catch a fake disease. The disease as well as the backstory of how he caught it is fake. It covers up his genetic modifications he got from Orion.

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I have a feeling we will be meeting our good ole friend 343 Guilty Spark who will be helping us find the Librarian.

And does anyone know what the Librarian did to Cortana when she took her?

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Im not sure where people are thinking the didact is going to come from.

The original didact, the antagonist in HALO 4 would appear to be dead. You shove a grenade into his chest and he falls into the composer beam. He is immune to the composers effects, but he did still get a grenade to the chest, and then presumably fell to earth.

The bornstellar didact is also dead, as seen in this quote from the HALO 3 terminals: “I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.”

The “great journey” and “transcendence” mentioned are a reference to the firing of the HALO array. Even in the event that the bornstellar didact survived the firing on the ark, he would be dead post-HALO 3 since the ark was essentially destroyed when the incomplete instalation 04 was fired.

The Librarian is also dead, and is also mentioned in the HALO 3 terminals. She destroyed her fleet and stranded herself on Earth until the firing of the HALO array killed her (and any who were with her).

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> The original didact, the antagonist in HALO 4 would appear to be dead. You shove a grenade into his chest and he falls into the composer beam. He is immune to the composers effects, but he did still get a grenade to the chest, and then presumably fell to earth.

We should know by now that unless we see a body we can’t presume anyone is dead, regardless if they “appear” to be. The Didact appeared to be dead at the end of Cryptum as well but he lived. Hell, Johnson appeared to be Flood bait in Halo: CE but he lived. Unless they come out and say “He’s dead” I don’t think we can say he is.

> The bornstellar didact is also dead, as seen in this quote from the HALO 3 terminals: “I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.”

We don’t know where he went after the Rings fired. It was said Forerunner survived and left the Galaxy afterwards and the Librarian tells the Didact that he would remain and be the last living thing in the Galaxy, until the receding of course. I would bet the Bornstellar-Didact survives and leaves but again, where he went is unknown.

> The “great journey” and “transcendence” mentioned are a reference to the firing of the HALO array. Even in the event that the bornstellar didact survived the firing on the ark, he would be dead post-HALO 3 since the ark was essentially destroyed when the incomplete instalation 04 was fired.

You’re assuming he was there during the events of Halo 3. There is no way to know that.

> The Librarian is also dead, and is also mentioned in the HALO 3 terminals. She destroyed her fleet and stranded herself on Earth until the firing of the HALO array killed her (and any who were with her).

Chakas disagrees. She is thought to be dead of course but like I said before, we can’t assume nothing unless we know 100% for sure. It would appear she is not.

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Honestly, ive always believed that sgt johnsons survival and subsequent popularity in HALO was retconned. I dont know much about what existed in terms of an expanded universe at the time of HALO: CE’s release, but thats just been my personal view. Johnsons character in the game became so popular that Bungie simply came up with a way to say he survived the flood attack so they could keep him in the game.

As for the didacts/librarians survival, I would be pretty annoyed if they tried to shoe-horn these characters into the story. Its just so far-fetched that any of them would be alive at this point, the only real exception being bornstellar, since I suppose he could have went and put himself in a cryptum on some shield world after he activated the HALO array.

I just find the idea aggrevating. It would basically just be 343 taking advantage of the fact that it is never specifically stated that these beings died to continue with the franchise, which in my opinion would devalue the entire series, as the 343 games would be nothing more than money-grabs.

And when the Librarian says the didact will be the last living thing in the galaxy until the reseeding, she is talking to the original didact that she is putting into the cryptum.

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It was stated in Cryptum that Forerunners lived notoriously-long lives, I can’t remember the exact numbers but I do know the Librarian was upwards of 10,000 years old, not to mention that she was present during the Human-Forerunner war. She too may have receded to a cryptum, until the reactivation of the Didact’s prison, so it’s not as far-fetched as it may seem. She also seemed to be “showing her age” when she was shown in-game…

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I find it wierd how the Didact has essentially become like the flood through his use of the composer, composing species and assimilating them into his ranks with direct control.