If your wondering what “it” is, I rented the game I told myself I would never play and now I’m deciding about buying it. Yes, I’m talking about Black Ops 2. And really I’m amazed at how much Black Ops brought back that Halo 4 didn’t!!
Every playlist is still there
Playlists from other CODs are there that I downright loved
Core Gameplay is still there with new aspects added, not having to take from other games.
Only bad thing is the spawn system. But all in all, Treyarch did something different to Black Ops 2, added a Futuristic approach to it, but still kept the Core Gameplay the same.
So if Treyarch did this, and well catered to everyone. Why the hell didn’t this happen to Halo 4? Why did Halo 4 turn into a pile of casual garbage while COD changed and still kept the core it’s gameplay? It still caters to EVERYONE.
To be completely honest. I had a more enjoyable time playing Gun Game then I have in every playlist in Halo 4.
Treyarch succeeded because they made a change that suited COD perfectly, Halo 4 had a change that doesn’t suit it…at all. Treyarch catered to their whole community rather then just part of it to increase their sales. They didn’t make it easier, to attract new players. This is how Halo 4 COULD have succeeded but didn’t.
CoD will always outsell Halo BUT Halo should be able to hold 2nd or 3rd on the activity charts only losing to the newest and the 2nd newest CoD. Why? Because its unique and offers a highly varied gameplay style compared to modern shooters and has always just been… idk… Halo <3
Losing to Fifa and minecraft (which sold half of what H4 did) is a MAJOR red flag.
Halo tried to implement shotgun as a spawn weapon, instant spawn, killcams, pointstreaks, and base the entire game around Armor Abilities (which started in Reach) and we cant forget the perks (LOL cant pick up nades without a perk? FAIL)
Also, default sprint is somehow and excuse for massive maps that have no real flow in a 4v4.
The smallest maps in this game are twice as large as lockout/warlock/midship etc and its awful.
This game is essentially CoD: Space Warfare and its truly a sad excuse for a Halo game.
> <mark>Halo 4 lost to it because they tried to copy it</mark>.
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> CoD will always outsell Halo BUT Halo should be able to hold 2nd or 3rd on the activity charts only losing to the newest and the 2nd newest CoD. Why? Because its unique and offers a highly varied gameplay style compared to modern shooters and has always just been… idk… Halo <3
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> Losing to Fifa and minecraft (which sold half of what H4 did) is a MAJOR red flag.
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> Halo tried to implement shotgun as a spawn weapon, instant spawn, killcams, pointstreaks, and base the entire game around Armor Abilities (which started in Reach) and we cant forget the perks (LOL cant pick up nades without a perk? FAIL)
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> Also, default sprint is somehow and excuse for massive maps that have no real flow in a 4v4.
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> The smallest maps in this game are twice as large as lockout/warlock/midship etc and its awful.
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> This game is essentially CoD: Space Warfare and its truly a sad excuse for a Halo game.
Exactly my point. 343 tried to change the game to compete with COD and they failed. Treyarch even said they weren’t trying to beat Halo and they did without even trying.
Change because you want an entirely new experience doesn’t you change the game entirely!! Treyarch clearly understood this but I forget 343 has a matchmaking team that clearly doesn’t know a damn thing about Halo (excluding Bravo)!!
> You do realize this is the Halo 4 Forum. Why do we care to know about your BLOP 2 episode. Really… Really…
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> <mark>In fact, what happened to you leaving the forum?</mark>
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> Yeah, we saw your thread. You must be bent on causing mischief since you don’t really care about Halo 4 anymore. Disappointing…
LOL what I want to say to you that would get me suspended…so I won’t.
Anyhow, YES I DO realize this is the Halo 4 forum. I care because a Treyarch succeded in stepping a boundry with COD and stomped Halo 4 in the mud. I care because Treyarch changed the game to an extent that suited COD. Halo 4 however changed COMPLETELY regardless of what Reach and Halo 3 mechanics it has. Black Ops 2 is STILL a COD game. Halo 4 however is not a Halo game but a game that tried to be another game and FAILED HARD.
But oh, I did join THC, I just wanted to make this so I could express what a copy and paste AAA franchise did, and succeeded in, that Halo 4 failed in every aspect to achieve.
> > You do realize this is the Halo 4 Forum. Why do we care to know about your BLOP 2 episode. Really… Really…
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> > <mark>In fact, what happened to you leaving the forum?</mark>
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> > Yeah, we saw your thread. You must be bent on causing mischief since you don’t really care about Halo 4 anymore. Disappointing…
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> LOL what I want to say to you that would get me suspended…so I won’t.
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> Anyhow, YES I DO realize this is the Halo 4 forum. I care because a Treyarch succeded in stepping a boundry with COD and stomped Halo 4 in the mud. I care because Treyarch changed the game to an extent that suited COD. Halo 4 however changed COMPLETELY regardless of what Reach and Halo 3 mechanics it has. Black Ops 2 is STILL a COD game. Halo 4 however is not a Halo game but a game that tried to be another game and FAILED HARD.
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> But oh, I did join THC, I just wanted to make this so I could express what a copy and paste AAA franchise did, and succeeded in, that Halo 4 failed in every aspect to achieve.
I respected your posts.
You have been such an active member here and you really take the time to have meaningful dialog. It was people like you that kept me actively engaged when I first signed up. However, I am very disappointed in your recent activity. This thread is an act of treason in my eyes when you look at where I perceive you stood in terms of Halo. Your reply severely downplays the fact that you explicated stated that you were done here because of your disdain for what 343i has done to Halo.
> > > You do realize this is the Halo 4 Forum. Why do we care to know about your BLOP 2 episode. Really… Really…
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> > > <mark>In fact, what happened to you leaving the forum?</mark>
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> > > Yeah, we saw your thread. You must be bent on causing mischief since you don’t really care about Halo 4 anymore. Disappointing…
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> > LOL what I want to say to you that would get me suspended…so I won’t.
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> > Anyhow, YES I DO realize this is the Halo 4 forum. I care because a Treyarch succeded in stepping a boundry with COD and stomped Halo 4 in the mud. I care because Treyarch changed the game to an extent that suited COD. Halo 4 however changed COMPLETELY regardless of what Reach and Halo 3 mechanics it has. Black Ops 2 is STILL a COD game. Halo 4 however is not a Halo game but a game that tried to be another game and FAILED HARD.
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> > But oh, I did join THC, I just wanted to make this so I could express what a copy and paste AAA franchise did, and succeeded in, that Halo 4 failed in every aspect to achieve.
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> I respected your posts.
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> You have been such an active member here and you really take the time to have meaningful dialog. It was people like you that kept me actively engaged when I first signed up. However, I am very disappointed in your recent activity. This thread is an act of treason in my eyes when you look at where I perceive you stood in terms of Halo. Your reply severely downplays the fact that you explicated stated that you were done here because of your disdain for what 343i has done to Halo.
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> I disagree, but hey, to each his own.
Dude, ok thanks for being civil with me…BUT yes I will admit I defended Halo 4 to it’s core during E3, even when it got launched I defended it, but if a game that disgusts me finally convinced me to buy it when I told myself, I was done with COD after MW3, and am enjoying one gametype more then every single one in Halo? Don’t get my wrong, I love Halo a lot, I enjoy Halo 4, just not matchmaking because its an embarassment to the franchise. Spartan Ops is all I play now basically. But when I notice a rival game franchise does things to make it’s game succeed where an entirely new trilogy cannot? I’m gonna mention it regardless of what people think.
Halo 3 catered to everyone. You wanted to slay zombies? Here’s Infection. You like death races? Here is Rocket Race. You like BTB? Have some new maps and awesome new vehicles. You like Slayer? New weapons, new maps, and the ability to create your own maps. You like Co-Op? Not only do we have online Co-Op, but we will also have Firefight. Finally, here is a -Yoink- ton of game options to make whatever the hell you want.
That was the key to its success. No matter what kind of player you were, Halo 3 had something for you.
Halo 4 removes most of that content, throws it right out the window.