So i know you cant make everyone happy but i cant help but think that all the whinning is coming from change and this change means people have to go and try and keep u with the change of the game such as smart-scope some hate i honestly didn’t notice it i was to busy shooting things and the thruster and sprint and grab thing and the stomp and tackle thing yea i wasn’t trying to complain about those things because i was to busy mastering them to use them in ways to kill people who were to stubborn to adapt to it ad could fight in a more dimensional fighting arena, see they only had 4 paths of travel with original halo tactics but with these new one i had like 10m or more so i was flanking dudes from angles they couldn’t predict, thus they got pissy because they cant be on the top of the score board as easily. in other words i don’t complain i try to find a new way out of a situation. rather then rage and be stuck find a way out.
You can’t ever win. There will always be naysayers.
I could hardly understand any of you’re post, please edit by cleaning up the structure and by making an actual argument. I’m not saying that you’re argument was poor, but there was no literally no argument in you’re post.
But anyway, going off the title of the thread, I assume that this is another “complain about complainers” thread. I’ve said this many times before, and I will say it again: as an artist myself, I can tell you that criticism is water for us; if we don’t have it, then we degrade, and eventually, “die” without it. And we need criticism on the absolutely tiniest details, as those details add up DRASTICALLY. And I can also tell you as an artist, that I loathe nothing more than people who tell others to stop criticizing, as THEY are the anchors on progress, and THEY damage our creations final image.
So please, in 343’s sake, don’t defend them, a AAA dev studio does not need protection force comprised of zealous nerds against another force of zealous nerds.
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Yea especially in the world of halo it seems that people cant just sit back relax and enjoy the ride
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> But anyway, going off the title of the thread, I assume that this is another “complain about complainers” thread. I’ve said this many times before, and I will say it again: as an artist myself, I can tell you that criticism is water for us; if we don’t have it, then we degrade, and eventually, “die” without it. And we need criticism on the absolutely tiniest details, as those details add up DRASTICALLY. And I can also tell you as an artist, that I loathe nothing more than people who tell others to stop criticizing, as THEY are the anchors on progress, and THEY damage our creations final image.
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“Understand *You’re post?” This smells of a very quick type up just to argue. You HAD to do it.
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> But anyway, going off the title of the thread, I assume that this is another “complain about complainers” thread. I’ve said this many times before, and I will say it again: as an artist myself, I can tell you that criticism is water for us; if we don’t have it, then we degrade, and eventually, “die” without it. And we need criticism on the absolutely tiniest details, as those details add up DRASTICALLY. And I can also tell you as an artist, that I loathe nothing more than people who tell others to stop criticizing, as THEY are the anchors on progress, and THEY damage our creations final image.
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> So please, in 343’s sake, don’t defend them, a AAA dev studio does not need protection force comprised of zealous nerds against another force of zealous nerds.
BTW, we’re not saying to not criticize them, but MY GOD smart-scope and other game mechanics aren’t the same as broken servers. If the servers aren’t working, that’s just a poor job by 343. If some mechanics are changed, it’s just that. *CHANGE. It’s not the destruction of Halo. We’re still getting great voice acting, art, sound, story, gameplay etc.
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I gave his post a full read, and I could honestly not understand where he was trying to go with his argument if he even had one. And did you even my post fully? Because if you only read the first sentence, then you clearly just misinterpreted my entire post.
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> But anyway, going off the title of the thread, I assume that this is another “complain about complainers” thread. I’ve said this many times before, and I will say it again: as an artist myself, I can tell you that criticism is water for us; if we don’t have it, then we degrade, and eventually, “die” without it. And we need criticism on the absolutely tiniest details, as those details add up DRASTICALLY. And I can also tell you as an artist, that I loathe nothing more than people who tell others to stop criticizing, as THEY are the anchors on progress, and THEY damage our creations final image.
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> So please, in 343’s sake, don’t defend them, a AAA dev studio does not need protection force comprised of zealous nerds against another force of zealous nerds.
Dude im no nerd im the guy who can hire your -Yoink- if i so please but yea im only not writing properly because perhaps i have that little effort into this, and i don’t defend 343 the only thing i do is get a video game and learn to play it the way it is. i don’t complain if it looks like another video game i don’t complain if completely different i just learn to not complain about certain things and bring up my opinions about others such as AI in spartan ops because i hate playing online with other because 1 they troll 2 it lags. Not sur what you mean by you saying your an artist but honestly it doesn’t matter honestly everyone is an artist in there own way. and its not like im saying stop criticizing its that no matter what it will never be good enough everyone always wants more even me but sometimes you got to step back and actually enjoy what you have and be happy for what you have or you will never be happy for as long as you always want more happiness wont be yours because once you get what you want you will only want the next thing and the next and then next and before you know it time goes by and you’ve accomplished nothing. and not trying to be mean but the last time someone told me they were an artist they were asking what i wanted at a Denny’s sooooooo yea im in the scope of accomplishments so to me overly criticizing a video game seems stupid.
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I’m talking about your typo. You were like “I’m going to let him have it” right as you finished reading.
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It’s not the end the world, I agree. But those small criticisms are ABSOLUTELY NEEDED. I cannot stress this enough: criticisms on details like these are incredibly important for an artist, as those details, when accumulated, are just as significant as the main beef of the product, so therefore, these details need to be as perfect as possible.
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> BTW, we’re not saying to not criticize them, but MY GOD smart-scope and other game mechanics aren’t the same as broken servers. If the servers aren’t working, that’s just a poor job by 343. If some mechanics are changed, it’s just that. *CHANGE. It’s not the destruction of Halo. We’re still getting great voice acting, art, sound, story, gameplay etc.
This man gets my point game breakers are when im starring at a searching for players screen or when the game constantly freezes. not something like oh hey they changed the way the grenade looks.
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I don’t think he was referring to bugs or anything. He’s referring to the fact that people think Halo 5 is an abomination, just because it doesn’t cater to them 100%. Bugs SHOULD be fixed, and games should be balanced. As far as I’m concerned, Halo 5 is the most balanced and equal footed console fps game of 2015.
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and again the guy arguing against me misses the point and the guy who just posted gets what im saying.
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That ought to tell you something. If the opinion was of the majority, it wouldn’t get buried by “naysayers”.
People are “haters” when they see others getting ahead or winning, and begin to take cheap shots at something or someone to ultimately try to bring them down to their own level.
People are not “haters” when for years they repeatedly ask for the same things, those things go largely ignored, then they watch the games they pleaded against go on to struggle, or even fail in some aspects…and they have no alternative…because this is Halo. This is it. If Halo 4’s multiplayer sucked in your opinion, then Halo’s multiplayer was no good to you until…well…for many it’s still no good (MCC still has a ways to go).
Your “naysayers” have been paying for and playing these games for years. They are you, regardless whether you share their opinions. Maybe something to consider.
OK - You may now burn me at the forum stake.
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In 2015. I’m not sure I agree, but you very well might have an argument there. Only thing is…“in 2015”. It wouldn’t touch the balance of H2 or H3 (2004 and 2007) #evolution
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> But anyway, going off the title of the thread, I assume that this is another “complain about complainers” thread. I’ve said this many times before, and I will say it again: as an artist myself, I can tell you that criticism is water for us; if we don’t have it, then we degrade, and eventually, “die” without it. And we need criticism on the absolutely tiniest details, as those details add up DRASTICALLY. And I can also tell you as an artist, that I loathe nothing more than people who tell others to stop criticizing, as THEY are the anchors on progress, and THEY damage our creations final image.
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> So please, in 343’s sake, don’t defend them, a AAA dev studio does not need protection force comprised of zealous nerds against another force of zealous nerds.
Very well said. I may not agree with all your posts, but I agree with this one. Criticism is needed.
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> People are not “haters” when for years they repeatedly ask for the same things, those things go largely ignored, then they watch the games they pleaded against go on to struggle, or even fail in some aspects…and they have no alternative…because this is Halo. This is it. If Halo 4’s multiplayer sucked in your opinion, then Halo’s multiplayer was no good to you until…well…for many it’s still no good (MCC still has a ways to go).
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Naw, I’m not an A-hole who likes to argue all day. I UNDERSTAND the complaints about servers, but COME ON, “I can’t believe 343 is charging $60 for a balanced Halo game with equal starts, an evasive boost, and altered aiming aesthetics”. AAARGH, the universe will implode. 343 is so incompetent for providing a great sci-fi story, cool art, and more" >:(
What i don’t get is this gy keeps mentioning hes and ARTIST as if that is actually supposed to mean something.what makes him an artist what makes other not an artist. But back to my point, again the who game play has the main things to survive it works , so far, its fun, it brings in something different to halo to try, and it again is fun keeps me entertained. It seems more and more like those who are getting mad are those who want everyone to sit there and play there version of halo and no one gets to have there fun only that person.
See i don’t do marathon gaming i have way to many other things that take priority.So my basis of judgement for gameplaying is on a when i have time want a quick round dont need to waste time looking for people who want to play in a forum.
So so far halo 5 seems practically perfect in the sense that it was fun and it worked. so i have minimal complaints and im an artist too i just splattered some ketchup on a napkin and that’s art to me because i believe in it and some moron will actually pay 2 million for that ketchup napkin so long as Oprah says its art. lol