So much nostalgia makes me sad!

Im so sad i miss memories of halo 2 and halo 3 why did everything half to go downhill with reach than halo 4 was like a dagger to the heart :(. Watching halo 3 montages gives me so much nostalgia and it just makes me pissed because 343 thinks they can change everything from halos core and expect people to like it! 343 for halo 5 we need to go back to halos roots of gameplay no more armor abilitys, no sprint, no loadouts, no ordnance, NONE OF THAT NOOBY -Yoink-! halo 3 had 100 of thousands of people playing it and look at halo 4 it barely reachs 30k at peak hours!

This is why we must go back halo 3 was a funner more balanced game and was a downright success halo 4 however has lost so much of its population since launch if u dont believe me look at the charts.

All im saying is go play halo 3/halo 2 and build off that game no more reach/halo 4 stuff its nooby and does not belong in halo!!! Come on 343 u got the talent go back to halos roots and make it a beast game i know u guys can do it!

Do not tell me that u dont want halo to turn into cod because it stays the same who cares!!! add a few new guns game types weapons etc but keep it to the halos core why do u think cod is such a succesful franchise cause the fans know what there getting!!!

Halo 3 Montage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_frOrOgUS8

Population charts: http://halocharts.com/2013/playlists_halo4.php

Dam now those numbers tell us why we most go back to traditional gameplay cause the majority of people are disatisfied with your game!

<mark>343 GO BACK TO HALOS ROOTS OR YOUR GAME WILL FAIL AGAIN!!!</mark>

<mark>Put the ranks in ranked playlist to and divide ranked and social!!!</mark>

I agree Halo should go back to its roots, but it needs to evolve somehow.

> I agree Halo should go back to its roots, but it needs to evolve somehow.

No it doesnt it needs to stay just halo 2/3s core thats why cod is so succesful it can add new things like weapons armor maps gametypes but it must stay to the core if they want a succesful game!

> No it doesnt it needs to stay just halo 2/3s core thats why cod is so succesful it can add new things like weapons armor maps gametypes but it must stay to the core if they want a succesful game!

Lame. I don’t want to be shelling out 60 dollars for a new Halo 3 DLC pack every year.

I want a new Halo game.

> > No it doesnt it needs to stay just halo 2/3s core thats why cod is so succesful it can add new things like weapons armor maps gametypes but it must stay to the core if they want a succesful game!
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> Lame. I don’t want to be shelling out 60 dollars for a new Halo 3 DLC pack every year.
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> I want a new Halo game.

They tried that and they failed traditional is what works dont change wat works thats how u ruin games like halo

> > > No it doesnt it needs to stay just halo 2/3s core thats why cod is so succesful it can add new things like weapons armor maps gametypes but it must stay to the core if they want a succesful game!
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> > Lame. I don’t want to be shelling out 60 dollars for a new Halo 3 DLC pack every year.
> >
> > I want a new Halo game.
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> They tried that and they failed traditional is what works dont change wat works thats how u ruin games like halo

With that argument, 343 shouldn’t make a new game and we should all go back to Halo 3

I don’t like halo 2/3 style gameplay, over the past few days I’ve been playing Halo 3 multiplayer to try see the appeal, I went in with the midset I’d enjoy it but had fun for half a game, it felt to easy. I also ordered Halo 2 PC and played for for about 3 hours to give it a fair try as it’s the first time I’ve played it since 2004, I still dislike it, if anything, this game should use legendary settins

> > > > No it doesnt it needs to stay just halo 2/3s core thats why cod is so succesful it can add new things like weapons armor maps gametypes but it must stay to the core if they want a succesful game!
> > >
> > > Lame. I don’t want to be shelling out 60 dollars for a new Halo 3 DLC pack every year.
> > >
> > > I want a new Halo game.
> >
> > They tried that and they failed traditional is what works dont change wat works thats how u ruin games like halo
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> With that argument, 343 shouldn’t make a new game and we should all go back to Halo 3

This

> > > No it doesnt it needs to stay just halo 2/3s core thats why cod is so succesful it can add new things like weapons armor maps gametypes but it must stay to the core if they want a succesful game!
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> > Lame. I don’t want to be shelling out 60 dollars for a new Halo 3 DLC pack every year.
> >
> > I want a new Halo game.
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> They tried that and they failed traditional is what works dont change wat works thats how u ruin games like halo

I agree with you in the sense that Halo needs to stick to its roots. But if the only changes from game to game are new guns, maps, and gametypes, there is ZERO innovation in that Halo title. Halo is all about innovation in its multiplayer and in all honesty, just adding new weapons, maps, and gametypes is a CoD move. Thats one of the reasons I stopped playing CoD was because every game was IDENTICAL other than those three pieces above.

Halo NEEDS to evolve while keeping its roots in tact.

> I don’t like halo 2/3 style gameplay, over the past few days I’ve been playing Halo 3 multiplayer to try see the appeal, I went in with the midset I’d enjoy it but had fun for half a game, it felt to easy. I also ordered Halo 2 PC and played for for about 3 hours to give it a fair try as it’s the first time I’ve played it since 2004, I still dislike it, if anything, this game should use legendary settins

In all honesty, thats just your opinion. I don’t see the appeal to Reach/H4. I like the predictability of H2/H3. It allows you to plan out your moves and try and counter your enemies intelligence of map, weapon spawns, coordination, etc.

> I don’t like halo 2/3 style gameplay, over the past few days I’ve been playing Halo 3 multiplayer to try see the appeal, I went in with the midset I’d enjoy it but had fun for half a game, it felt to easy. I also ordered Halo 2 PC and played for for about 3 hours to give it a fair try as it’s the first time I’ve played it since 2004, I still dislike it, if anything, this game should use legendary settins

YOU DIDN’T LIKE HALO 3 MULTIPLAYER?! Oh well to each his own. I personally don’t like legendary settings; they feel outdated to me.

> They tried that and they failed traditional is what works dont change wat works thats how u ruin games like halo

You know MW3? Sold a ton of copies, but is generally considered the worst CoD.

Can you guess why?

> > I agree Halo should go back to its roots, but it needs to evolve somehow.
>
> No it doesnt it needs to stay just halo 2/3s core thats why cod is so succesful it can add new things like weapons armor maps gametypes but it must stay to the core if they want a succesful game!

So you want halo to become COD by releasing the same thing over and over, yet dont want it to be COD with the extra stuff added? Well thats a new one.

> > They tried that and they failed traditional is what works dont change wat works thats how u ruin games like halo
>
> You know MW3? Sold a ton of copies, but is generally considered the worst CoD.
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> Can you guess why?

Cuz no dolphin dive?

Honestly I feel that even if they made Halo 4 just like Halo 2/3 it would of still failed. People need to understand that not everything lasts forever. I doubt Halo will every get back to the top, again. People are just using 343 as a scapegoat, for Halo’s drop in population. I mean sure Halo 4 had its problems in the beginning, and im sure that was the reason for a lot of people leaving. But, even if Halo 4 was released as the perfect Halo game, I doubt its population would of been much higher than Reach’s. I’m kind of hoping that 343i makes Halo 5 more like Halo 2/3 just so that the Halo 4 haters can see that it will fail just as bad. That’s just my opinion, but we’ll see how it all goes in the future. Like I said, nothing last forever. I’m positive COD will lose its thrown on the next-gen consoles. I can see a game like Battlefield or some other new franchise taking over.

> Cuz no dolphin dive?

Exactly. :3

> I’m positive COD will lose its thrown on the next-gen consoles. I can see a game like Battlefield or some other new franchise taking over.

Yeah. I’m looking though all the new games, and it’s like-

“Wow! did you see them blow up that skyscraper in BF4?!”

“Dude, doesn’t Destiny look amazing? Did you see that gameplay?”

“Geez! Titanfall has mechs AND freerunning? Sign me up!”

“So… uh… the new CoD has fish and dogs? That’s kinda cool… I guess…”

Actually, if they blow off Halo 5 again, they won’t fail.

Sorry for the pessimism, but people are stupid.
The damage has already been done, and if they scrap all the changes the game will do worse.

HOWEVER, if they add BOTH styles of gameplay, then EVERYONE will be HAPPY!

Please keep in mind that the genre has changed.We can’t keep living in the past, because those days are over. Moving backwards is not moving forwards.

Also, if we keep moving forwards, we will end up with another pathetic population, and even more stagnant gameplay.

The possibilities are specific; the choice is not.

I agree that this “Infinity” stuff shouldn’t have been forced down our throats, but simply scrapping it will scare off sales. We should have both styles provided from day ONE.

If 343 fails to do this, then it may fail, but that’s just a little optimism.

> Honestly I feel that even if they made Halo 4 just like Halo 2/3 it would of still failed. People need to understand that not everything lasts forever. I doubt Halo will every get back to the top, again. People are just using 343 as a scapegoat, for Halo’s drop in population. I mean sure Halo 4 had its problems in the beginning, and im sure that was the reason for a lot of people leaving. But, even if Halo 4 was released as the perfect Halo game, I doubt its population would of been much higher than Reach’s. I’m kind of hoping that 343i makes Halo 5 more like Halo 2/3 just so that the Halo 4 haters can see that it will fail just as bad. That’s just my opinion, but we’ll see how it all goes in the future. Like I said, nothing last forever. I’m positive COD will lose its thrown on the next-gen consoles. I can see a game like Battlefield or some other new franchise taking over.

i highly doubt it what the community wanted was to revive halo back to its core from reachs mistakes look at how long halo 2 lasted and there is still people playing on xbox connect servers. If they kept like halo 2/halo 3 the true halo fans that played halos 1 2 3 would have been happy.

> > Honestly I feel that even if they made Halo 4 just like Halo 2/3 it would of still failed. People need to understand that not everything lasts forever. I doubt Halo will every get back to the top, again. People are just using 343 as a scapegoat, for Halo’s drop in population. I mean sure Halo 4 had its problems in the beginning, and im sure that was the reason for a lot of people leaving. But, even if Halo 4 was released as the perfect Halo game, I doubt its population would of been much higher than Reach’s. I’m kind of hoping that 343i makes Halo 5 more like Halo 2/3 just so that the Halo 4 haters can see that it will fail just as bad. That’s just my opinion, but we’ll see how it all goes in the future. Like I said, nothing last forever. I’m positive COD will lose its thrown on the next-gen consoles. I can see a game like Battlefield or some other new franchise taking over.
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> i highly doubt it what the community wanted was to revive halo back to its core from reachs mistakes look at how long halo 2 lasted and there is still people playing on xbox connect servers. If they kept like halo 2/halo 3 the true halo fans that played halos 1 2 3 would have been happy.

What about the people who didnt want another carbon copy of halo 3 and liked reach’s settings, wpuld they be happy after all they are still true fans.

Am I not a true fan for preferring Reach and Halo 4 play-styles despite being a fan all the way back to CE?

Its difficult to stick to your roots and evolve at the same time as Reach and 4 have clearly shown, its easy to say “we have to move forward, we can’t stick in the past” and even easier to remember that we TRIED to move forward, and failed at it.

Some ideas can belong (Custom Loadouts) in my opinion, but others simply do not work, random ordnance as a obvious example.