So in Halo 5 the Arbiter walks into his little encampment place and starts talking to Locke and makes the off hand comment that Agents identify themselves now to which Locke replies I am a Spartan now sir. Now I know that ONI has its own little branch of Spartans for Deniable Operations but what I’m confused is what are they? Spartans or ONI Operatives because they refer to themselves as Spartans but as seen on Locke’s armour they have ONI emblem inferring they are apart of ONI. So what are they?!
He used to be and Agent with the Office of Naval Intelligence, but has since gone to join the Spartan Branch. So he’s a Spartan, not an Agent.
As above but in Halo lore there is mentions of Locke working for ONI on covert ops as a Spartan.
he spartan now
“I’m a Spartan now sir”
He was an ONI agent before he became a spartan. After that, i don’t think he takes order from them any more.
“I’m a Spartan now, sir.”
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The ONI logo on his chest is just a hommage to where he came from, just as the rest of Osiris.
He used to be an ONI agent, he’s a Spartan now.
He’s a Spartan. Thel was just referencing Locke’s past when he was indeed an Agent.
It’s possible that Locke still works for ONI as a Spartan, as we’ve seen ONI have their “private teams” before. Examples would be the Spartan-III Headhunter teams, and other Spartan II teams before them. Though because it’s a military, no matter what branch a superior officer is from, if they tell you “jump” you ask “how high”. And frankly, ONI is known for not playing by the rules.
He’s a spartan. the ONI insignia is just homage to his past same as with Bucks ODST insignia.
Don’t the Spartan IVs fall under the oversight of ONI anyway? They say they’re an independent branch, yet we see ONI orchestrating all of their operations…
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> Don’t the Spartan IVs fall under the oversight of ONI anyway? They say they’re an independent branch, yet we see ONI orchestrating all of their operations…
Not all of them, but since Spartans are the seen as the best humanity has, it’s no wonder an organization like ONI has their hands in it. They have super-soldiers at their disposal, so they’re going to use them. And we only see a few times where ONI has Spartans do anything, since most of Spartan Ops back in Halo 4 was all Spartan, and hardly any ONI activity. In fact, the only part ONI had in it, I think, was with Admiral Osman.
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> Not all of them, but since Spartans are the seen as the best humanity has, it’s no wonder an organization like ONI has their hands in it. They have super-soldiers at their disposal, so they’re going to use them. And we only see a few times where ONI has Spartans do anything, since most of Spartan Ops back in Halo 4 was all Spartan, and hardly any ONI activity. In fact, the only part ONI had in it, I think, was with Admiral Osman.
Its the same way ONI has access to other UNSC Special Operations Forces, like the ODSTs in Kilo-Five. Some may be put under ONI command, but they all are members of the Spartan Branch rather than the Navy and ONI, just like how the Kilo-Five ODSTs were still under the Marine Corps, attached to ONI.
Spartan Locke is a Spartan, and although Fireteam Osiris is sometimes used for intelligence missions, it is under Spartan Command. This is similar to how US Special Operation Forces are under US Special Operations Command, who may give them mission on behalf of the Intelligence community, but still be kept under SOCOM Control.
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> > Not all of them, but since Spartans are the seen as the best humanity has, it’s no wonder an organization like ONI has their hands in it. They have super-soldiers at their disposal, so they’re going to use them. And we only see a few times where ONI has Spartans do anything, since most of Spartan Ops back in Halo 4 was all Spartan, and hardly any ONI activity. In fact, the only part ONI had in it, I think, was with Admiral Osman.
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> Its the same way ONI has access to other UNSC Special Operations Forces, like the ODSTs in Kilo-Five. Some may be put under ONI command, but they all are members of the Spartan Branch rather than the Navy and ONI, just like how the Kilo-Five ODSTs were still under the Marine Corps, attached to ONI.
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> Spartan Locke is a Spartan, and although Fireteam Osiris is sometimes used for intelligence missions, it is under Spartan Command. This is similar to how US Special Operation Forces are under US Special Operations Command, who may give them mission on behalf of the Intelligence community, but still be kept under SOCOM Control.
But here things get complicated because ONI section three is into navspecweap/war, and that SOC-UNSC appears only twice, one of which at the end of a report from fixer to surgeon, and is preceded by HQS (head quartier ship?), which given surgeon may mean point of no return.
Locke is Spartan branch, but his team is very suitable for intelligence operations from ONI and particularly important ones from HighCom security council (where ONI rules more or less).
They are also on the Infinity, an asset under double control of ONI and Navy.
He was first an ONI agent and is now promoted to Spartan.
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> > Spartan Locke is a Spartan, and although Fireteam Osiris is sometimes used for intelligence missions, it is under Spartan Command. This is similar to how US Special Operation Forces are under US Special Operations Command, who may give them mission on behalf of the Intelligence community, but still be kept under SOCOM Control.
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> But here things get complicated because ONI section three is into navspecweap/war, and that SOC-UNSC appears only twice, one of which at the end of a report from fixer to surgeon, and is preceded by HQS (head quartier ship?), which given surgeon may mean point of no return.
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> Locke is Spartan branch, but his team is very suitable for intelligence operations from ONI and particularly important ones from HighCom security council (where ONI rules more or less).
> They are also on the Infinity, an asset under double control of ONI and Navy.
Yes, ONI definitely has much more operational control than many other Intel agencies. ONI also has its own special forces division (in Hunters in the Dark), and the Beta-5 Asymmetrical Action Group, plus other one mentioned in the armor listings.
Organizationally he may be Spartan Branch, buy you are very right - any time ONI gets involved the lines get extremely blurred.
I think Locke is going to become a villain. I don’t know why, but I feel like he still secretly works for ONI. Obviously he wouldn’t tell an avowed ally of the Chief this if he wanted to fulfill his ONI duties.
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