So I have to ask; what defines "Dead"? Why is Infinite a "Dead" game?

Because I can’t think of a single meaningful definition of the word that applies to Infinite.

Is it because some regions other than AUS have matchmaking issues (sorry AUS but your matchmaking issues in any game are irrelevant. We could put all 8 billion humans on your continent and you still ain’t getting matched with anyone)? It seems to work fine in EU and SA for the most part. Halo has never been that popular in KR or Asia in general so I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the other region with issues.

Up here in NA you can find matches in legit nearly every playlist at basically all times of the day in under 2 minutes, 3 minutes tops. I can get up at 4:00 in the morning, turn on some Infinite and get a BTB match in about 2? 2:30 minutes? At night after work? No issues.

Ranked? I play in the Plat-Diamond bracket and at worst I’ve got maybe a 4-5 minute wait at off-peak times. During normal times it goes right back to that 2:30 wait and usually works faster than that.

Or is it because it isn’t topping the Steam, Xbox and Twitch leaderboards? Since when did this become a measure of a game’s “Dead” status? There are a ton of games not on any of those lists that are far from dead in any form. Just because the name of the game is “Halo” does not entitle it or give it some sort of divine right to top the lists forever.

And in fact, is it not that exact kind of thinking that led to a lot of terrible business and design decisions in other games? That idea that because this game has this brand it must sell this much or provide this much profit no matter what and it is considered a failure if it doesn’t meet that inflated expectation even if it is still profitable/successful otherwise?

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The game only averages 5k players daily on steam and that percentage is dropping every month. It hasn’t been in the top 10 on xbox for months and while we don’t know exact numbers for xbox users, its probably not that high.

Between that and the fact the game just isn’t getting updated and with a season lasting nearly a full year…The game is objectively dead.

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It isn’t even on the top free games on xbox anymore when I checked earlier, it happens when it goes a year without any real content dropping, and 6 months seasons do so much damage, no doubt when forge drops next months the player count will rise again.

I took a break for a while as no progression system, and not really interested in slogging through challenges for a cosmetic I don’t even want, I love Halo and despite the problems over the last year since release, I’ll still be back to play on a regular basis, as no doubt alot of others will too.

I wouldn’t say it’s dead, just zombie’d waiting for regular content drops to revive it

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Two reasons for calling it a dead game would be the lack of regular patches and the fact it’s not receiving regular content drops.

it’s supposed to be a live service (the mp side)

yet it feels abandoned, on life support.

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If you compare infinite’s popularity and player count to previous halo games and other big triple A games on the market for a similar point after launch you can easily say the games dead.

Also if you just look at the issues with the game and parts of the game not being out yet that should have been featured at launch and had been on previous games, infinite is a shell in comparison and has missed its huge chance to become the game it could have been.

Certain aspects of infinite are great but because of the problems 343 have had with the game and the fact that these problems still haven’t been dealt with and people have lost interest thats why the game is in this “dead” state. I’d say resurrecting the game isn’t impossible but it definitely isn’t likely at this point.

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It’s a dead game because I don’t even care enough to check these forums on a regular basis.

I’ve stopped caring, and I’m clearly in the majority at this point.

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People call it dead because of mainly 3 reasons I think.

  1. Population has been on a downward trajectory since launch, it loses players month by month.

  2. No one streams it

  3. 343i barely updates it. So it feels dead from a content perspective which is not what you want from a live service game.

So while it isn’t dead in the sense that you just can’t find games, it is slowly dying.

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Gone Game Crew incoming… GG guys!

Exactly this. It’s slowly dying with no signs of life support.

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The community is toxic. I have had 1 good 4 man squad found on the offical Halo Discord Server and all the groups have consisted of gaslight children or the groomers that pretend to be their friend (and even in the 4 man, when we were winning, there was still -Yoink!- flexing after the win, which again is unacceptable according to the Spartan Code).

Who’s killing Halo Infinite, is the correct question.

According to the spartan code? Gtfo of here with that nonsense.

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That’s a loaded question. Community, yes. The way the world is today, yes. 343, most defiantly yes. MCC is the only decent thing 343 produced, and the content is mainly from Bungie especially on PC since they only put Halo 4 in there.

Anybody remember a couple years ago, some female streamer with like 500ish subs cried and pulled all kinds of card for the reason Xbox and Sony didn’t get her a console to review? Griffin made a videos about it (actually how I found out about him) and it got pulled. Xbox gave her a console and she did a horrible job. That’s the world today. Something similar happened/tried to happen here.

Lol. Enjoy dying and having Spartan-681 salvaging the tech (and possibly your brain, for the info inside it) with the help of the artificial intelligence he coded himself: GON (Geographical Online Node) AI, all because you couldn’t follow the Spartan Code like good boy Spartan-681…
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/spartan-code-have-you-read-it/543776

(I’m Spartan-681 by the way).

If it’s not content made by the studio because of how much they enjoy the game they are making, I’m not watching it.

You sit waiting for a match and none ever come up no matter how long you wait.

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Not sure I understand what you’re saying, but the whole thing gives you an idea of how people are being entitled these days.

Just google this if you’re interested…

Twitch streamer demands free next-gen consoles to address lack of representation, gets criticized on social media

Unlike the people who have been coddled and successful constantly in their lives to the point where they are now in charge of a major multiplayer game with a dedicated fanbase, I know exactly how or why people do things having studied why they don’t act on logic, feel free to read my blog on the subject: https://medium.com/@johnapted/33-years-on-this-planet-and-spent-a-good-25-trying-to-work-out-what-was-wrong-7cc34c24244a

If you are paying people to promote your game, they are not fans of your game.

Halo is a big enough name and continues to make enough money for MS that it will never truly “die” imo.

You’ll always be able to find games in at least a small number of playlists in whatever Halo title is being actively supported at the time.

This has been true ever since Reach started having huge population drops and applied to H4 and H5 too.

I think 2017-18 H5 and 2019- present MCC are the true “second golden age of Halo” and we just didn’t realize it because we wanted Infinite so badly.

Microsoft literally program the software that goes into your ATM dispenser.
I don’t think Microsoft is worried about money… At worst it could make inflation worse by programming a virus that would start dispensing bank notes into the streets on outdated machines…

Lol I appreciate you trying to facilitate conversation, but this is like 7 layers deep into conspiracy theory hell :rofl:

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