In the Spartan Ops intro Palmer pretty much disses the Covenant and their religion as we learn that the mission is to step into that Holy Covenant place and pilfer it. Why wasn’t there any sort of dialogue between the forces? Why was there just combat from the start?
These new humans are doing exactly the same thing that the OG humans did last time with the flood. No talking, no nothing just blow stuff up. Didact is right, the humans need to go.
Storm’s pretty much entire point of existance is to get the didact to wipe out humanity, or atleast, was its founding principle in Thursday War. Their leader didn’t believe in peaceful communication with humans BEFORE he blamed the death of his wife on them.
The novels themselves seem to paint most of the remaining covenant believers to be anti-human.
Anyone who tried to talk was probably shot.
How do you even talk to the flood?
So we’re supposed to be nice to the group of aliens that wants to annihilate the human race?
> So we’re supposed to be nice to the group of aliens that wants to annihilate the human race?
This pretty much sums it up. This isn’t like any of our modern conflicts involving radical religious groups. The majority of believers in the covenant DO want to wipe out humans, while the members of the coveneant’s former races we are aligned with no longer believe in their religion.
This religious belief lead to the deaths of billions, and really seems to have no redeeming qualities beyond getting an number of different species to get along…to wipe out humans. It doesn’t really deserve respect.
> In the Spartan Ops intro Palmer pretty much disses the Covenant and their religion as we learn that the mission is to step into that Holy Covenant place and pilfer it.
So Palmer’s a racist. That really doesn’t mean anything. Did you hear about the Human-Covenant war and how most of Humanity was ruthlessly slaughtered? Why does that suddenly mean nothing? Do you think it is unreasonable that someone, anyone, should harbour bitterness towards that old foe and should be condemned and destroyed for it? Any Covenant that remain hostile, as these Covenant have decided to do, deserve to be annihilated for what they did and what they still strive to do. These Covenant are enemies and make their intentions towards the annihilation of mankind clear; denying them access to powerful Forerunner technology is not unreasonable in the slightest, nor is having a fond hatred for their them and their mindset.
> Why wasn’t there any sort of dialogue between the forces? Why was there just combat from the start?
Probably because dialogue was totally useless during the Human-Covenant war, and is not suddenly going to become a useful tool now any time soon. We’re talking about xenophobic aliens who believe Humanity is a plague to be wiped from the face of the galaxy and who started the war themselves under nothing other than religious pretences. What is there to talk about?
> These new humans are doing exactly the same thing that the OG humans did last time with the flood. No talking, no nothing just blow stuff up.
You don’t talk with the Flood… And alerting the Forerunners would have been counter-productive to stopping the Parasite given the Forerunners species bias and beliefs in the Mantle.
> Didact is right, the humans need to go.
Omnicidal trans-galactic parasites need to go first though, followed by xenophobic, genocidal and religiously fanatical aliens next, then followed by bigoted Forerunner supremacists hell-bent on wiping out the competition. Then we’ll talk about Humans.
> Storm’s pretty much entire point of existance is to get the didact to wipe out humanity, or atleast, was its founding principle in Thursday War. Their leader didn’t believe in peaceful communication with humans BEFORE he blamed the death of his wife on them.
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> The novels themselves seem to paint most of the remaining covenant believers to be anti-human.
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> Anyone who tried to talk was probably shot.
Ugh… so this stuff was explained in a book?
Some of the most important things like this need to be included in the game to some degree.
Well, i guess that solves that.
That’s all folks!
> How do you even talk to the flood?
Talking with the Forerunners.
> Ugh… so this stuff was explained in a book?
> Some of the most important things like this need to be included in the game to some degree.
Yes, Glasslands and Thursday War, the first terminal in halo 4 also involves Storm. I’ll also agree they weren’t explained too well, I mean, they’re supposedly called Storm, yet this is never mentioned anywhere during the game.
That being said, these are the same guys who attacked the remains of half a frigate because there was a human onboard near their “holy relic”.
Likewise, these guys also quickly aligned with the Didact, who very blatently wanted to wipe out humans.
> > Ugh… so this stuff was explained in a book?
> > Some of the most important things like this need to be included in the game to some degree.
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> Yes, Glasslands and Thursday War, the first terminal in halo 4 also involves Storm. I’ll also agree they weren’t explained too well, I mean, they’re supposedly called Storm, yet this is never mentioned anywhere during the game.
It wasnt explained period.
The first terminal just reveals how long these Storm have been on Requiem, i think Cortana theorizes that they are scavengers or something, and 117 mentions they they seem more “fanatical.” Outside of that nothing is ever said about anything.
> That being said, these are the same guys who attacked the remains of half a frigate because there was a human onboard near their “holy relic”.
They were exploring a huge dangerous piece of debris heading their way. 117 is the one that goes nuts and starts killing people just because they are there. When he was climbing that shaft that helpful elite comes to him and is all like, “Hey, my man, let me help you up-oh, OH MY GOD! You are killing me, aaaaaahhh!!!” And 117 throws him down the shaft. Then he sneaks behind another one that is just messing around with that panel and kills him as well! He was nuts!
Maybe the guy at the start saying that the Spartans have mental problems is right.
> Likewise, these guys also quickly aligned with the Didact, who very blatently wanted to wipe out humans.
Hey, they might have been under duress or something worst.
But since the Humans know that these dudes are evil anyway this doesnt really matter.
> > That being said, these are the same guys who attacked the remains of half a frigate because there was a human onboard near their “holy relic”.
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> They were exploring a huge dangerous piece of debris heading their way. 117 is the one that goes nuts and starts killing people just because they are there. When he was climbing that shaft that helpful elite comes to him and is all like, “Hey, my man, let me help you up-oh, OH MY GOD! You are killing me, aaaaaahhh!!!” And 117 throws him down the shaft. Then he sneaks behind another one that is just messing around with that panel and kills him as well! He was nuts!
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> Maybe the guy at the start saying that the Spartans have mental problems is right.
The Elite clearly attacked John.
FuD is not a huge and dangerous piece of debris.
> In the Spartan Ops intro Palmer pretty much disses the Covenant and their religion as we learn that the mission is to step into that Holy Covenant place and pilfer it. Why wasn’t there any sort of dialogue between the forces? Why was there just combat from the start?
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> These new humans are doing exactly the same thing that the OG humans did last time with the flood. No talking, no nothing just blow stuff up. Didact is right, the humans need to go.
We are evil because we are at war with a Sangheili faction and we just start blowing their ships up and prevent them from obtaining possibly extremely dangerous Forerunner tech?
Well hotdamn! That screams evilness…
Forthencho cleansed that Forerunner planet because he and indeed the humans as a whole had become so fearful of the Flood that they felt they had to destroy it wherever they found it.
Didact behaved in the same way as the Flood war intensified.
In a war of survival people’s decisions are ruled by fear rather than reason.
> Forthencho cleansed that Forerunner planet because he and indeed the humans as a whole had become so fearful of the Flood that they felt they had to destroy it wherever they found it.
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> Didact behaved in the same way as the Flood war intensified.
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> In a war of survival people’s decisions are ruled by fear rather than reason.
Forthencho did use reason though. The flood must have had a way of transportation, most likely portals to different planets, and the fastest way to spread any sickness is have carriers, so the best thing the flood could have done was to focus on making those spore volcano thingies was saw in Primordium and have the Forerunners run to a new world and spread the infection; the most logical reason is to not give it any chance to spread.
> The Elite clearly attacked John.
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> FuD is not a huge and dangerous piece of debris.
The Elite came at him with open arms all peaceful and 117 went nuts and killed him. That guy is Psycho.
Yes it is. Not only was it armed which means something can go wrong and blow up any minute but it was coming straight at them. It was going picked up by the gravity of Requiem and made into a satellite or just crash on the planet. It was a tremendous risk.
> > The Elite clearly attacked John.
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> > FuD is not a huge and dangerous piece of debris.
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> 1. The Elite came at him with open arms all peaceful and 117 went nuts and killed him. That guy is Psycho.
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> 2. Yes it is. Not only was it armed which means something can go wrong and blow up any minute but it was coming straight at them. It was going picked up by the gravity of Requiem and made into a satellite or just crash on the planet. It was a tremendous risk.
Are you stupid?
Same as the above
If you think that Elite was trying to be helpful then you might be an idiot.
> In the Spartan Ops intro Palmer pretty much disses the Covenant and their religion as we learn that the mission is to step into that Holy Covenant place and pilfer it. Why wasn’t there any sort of dialogue between the forces? Why was there just combat from the start?
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> These new humans are doing exactly the same thing that the OG humans did last time with the flood. No talking, no nothing just blow stuff up. Didact is right, the humans need to go.
I love how you completely neglect to mention how it was the Storm Covenant who attacked first and are ruled by one of the most anti-Human Elites in all of Sanghelios.
> > > The Elite clearly attacked John.
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> > > FuD is not a huge and dangerous piece of debris.
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> > 1. The Elite came at him with open arms all peaceful and 117 went nuts and killed him. That guy is Psycho.
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> > 2. Yes it is. Not only was it armed which means something can go wrong and blow up any minute but it was coming straight at them. It was going picked up by the gravity of Requiem and made into a satellite or just crash on the planet. It was a tremendous risk.
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> 1. Are you stupid?
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> 2. Same as the above
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> If you think that Elite was trying to be helpful then you might be an idiot.
I think you got trolled… If not then I truly hope that person is incapable of reproducing…
I may be wrong, but the dialogue at the beginning of the first episode implied that Humans thought an Elite attacked New Phoenix, right? That it was the Storm and the Didact wasn’t even mentioned. The UNSC would definitely go to war against the Storm Covenant then. Plus they need the data on Requiem.
> 1. The Elite came at him with open arms all peaceful and 117 went nuts and killed him. That guy is Psycho.
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> 2. Yes it is. Not only was it armed which means something can go wrong and blow up any minute but it was coming straight at them. It was going picked up by the gravity of Requiem and made into a satellite or just crash on the planet. It was a tremendous risk.
I hope your trolling.
> I may be wrong, but the dialogue at the beginning of the first episode implied that Humans thought an Elite attacked New Phoenix, right? That it was the Storm and the Didact wasn’t even mentioned. The UNSC would definitely go to war against the Storm Covenant then. Plus they need the data on Requiem.
The data pad that one of the IV’s was holding said that the authorities were not blaming the attack on the Covenant though.
> I think you got trolled… If not then I truly hope that person is incapable of reproducing…
I should reproduce a lot because my kids would be smart enough to know that different cultures have different mannerisms. In Iraq a bunch of civvies were killed at checkpoints and other similar situations because they didn’t understand the US soldier’s hand signals to stop. And didnt you see Inglorious Basterds? The American soldiers passing for Germans were found out because the made a hand signal for the number 3 using different fingers than the ones the Germans use.
Since he was part of Storm he was probably evil but remember that 117 doesn’t know that.