Yeah I mean thank goodness 343i went with the vision of Halo they did. H3 was fun and all back in 2007, but it is 2013 and it needed to change. The AA’s make the game way more interesting, and its not just all about the Br anymore which is great! The game would be so boring if it had continued in the vain of H3. So I’m very happy that they are not listening to the people who want the game to go back to the boring game style of H3.
Yep, even if it went back to Halo 3 with better graphics, this game would still only be pushing 20K players.
Then what would the excuse be?
This community has literally complained about everything and anything since the start of Halo 2. And it will continue. And apparentally everyone in this community has short term memory because they decided to forget all of the other flaws of the other Halos.
Or they forget what games were out around that time…because there were SO many good games to play other than Halo 3. >_>
Or they forget how bad Reach was and say it was the last greatest Halo.
This community…makes me so made lol
Halo 4 infinity is good. But I hope Halo 5 will have classic Halo gameplay with sprinting.
I hope 343i will come up with innovations though if they keep Infinity or stick to classic to keep it fresh and up-to-date though, and classic Halo won’t feel like the same game.
So you’d rather play an unbalanced game?
Yeah a return to H3 would be the worst mistake 343i could make. No one would play it.
> Yep, even if it went back to Halo 3 with better graphics, this game would still only be pushing 20K players.
>
> Then what would the excuse be?
>
> This community has literally complained about everything and anything since the start of Halo 2. And it will continue. And apparentally everyone in this community has short term memory because they decided to forget all of the other flaws of the other Halos.
>
> Or they forget what games were out around that time…because there were SO many good games to play other than Halo 3. >_>
>
> Or they forget how bad Reach was and say it was the last greatest Halo.
>
> This community…makes me so made lol
You my friend , are 100% right .
The problem isn’t 343i , it’s the COMMUNITY .
(Not everyone of course , but I’d say a good chunk of it sadly.)
> Yeah a return to H3 would be the worst mistake 343i could make. No one would play it.
Many don’t want a Halo 3 clone. They just want Arena style Halo gameplay with innovations that nobody done yet, to keep it fresh but still feel like classic Halo.
Like Halo 3 vs Halo 2 gameplay.
Halo 3 added equipment and forge, and theater, and a bunch of other stuff, it felt like a different game, but similar to Halo 2, with arena gameplay. If Halo 4 did what Halo 3 did to Halo 2. Halo 4 would be way more heavily populated. If Halo 4 was a Halo 3 clone, nobody would play it though.
> > Yep, even if it went back to Halo 3 with better graphics, this game would still only be pushing 20K players.
> >
> > Then what would the excuse be?
> >
> > This community has literally complained about everything and anything since the start of Halo 2. And it will continue. And apparentally everyone in this community has short term memory because they decided to forget all of the other flaws of the other Halos.
> >
> > Or they forget what games were out around that time…because there were SO many good games to play other than Halo 3. >_>
> >
> > Or they forget how bad Reach was and say it was the last greatest Halo.
> >
> > This community…makes me so made lol
>
> You my friend , are 100% right .
>
> The problem isn’t 343i , it’s the COMMUNITY .
> (Not everyone of course , but I’d say a good chunk of it sadly.)
Yea, I’m so ashamed of this community sometimes. We blow -Yoink- out of proportion like crazy.
-Halo 3 had some of the worst netcode in history (So we bash Halo 4 for its occasional laggy game)
-Every Halo has had ONE go-to, GOD weapon that demolishes everything else (So we bash Halo 4 for the DMR)
-We complained that people quit too damn much in BTB in Halo 3 and Reach (So we bash Halo 4 for JIP)
-Reach pissed everyone off with the bloom system (So we bash the DMR and say it needs more)
-Halo 2 took like 6-7 months for its FIRST TU; in which it was unplayable (So we bash Halo 4 for not fixing everything within 2 weeks)
-Halo 2’s campaign ended with one of the most PAINFUL cliffhangers EVER!! (So we bash Halo 4’s campaign for not being more like Halo 2’s)
facepalm like crazy
Yes because building off of COD4, a 2007 game is so much fresher than building off H3, a 2007 game.
Makes so much sense.
Not to mention every single other FPS out there right now is also built off COD4 so it makes Halo 4 feel incredibly generic.
We’ve been playing these custom class games for 7 years now. How about trying something different?
> > Yeah a return to H3 would be the worst mistake 343i could make. No one would play it.
>
> Many don’t want a Halo 3 clone. They just want Arena style Halo gameplay with innovations that nobody done yet, to keep it fresh but still feel like classic Halo.
>
> Like Halo 3 vs Halo 2 gameplay.
>
> Halo 3 added equipment and forge, and theater, and a bunch of other stuff, it felt like a different game, but similar to Halo 2, with arena gameplay. If Halo 4 did what Halo 3 did to Halo 2. Halo 4 would be way more heavily populated. If Halo 4 was a Halo 3 clone, nobody would play it though.
Exactly…
Seriously though, after reading this topic again I felt violated.
Everyone wanted a new Halo, even those who loved Halo 3. But when pointing out the failures of 4 the easiest way is to way it against the strength of older titles. No one is saying 4 should be 3, they just know what they don’t like in 4 and they know they did like about 3, so you are arguing against something that no one is really advocating for.
Stop blaming the community its 343i’s fault.
Only thing that really needs to be brought back from Halo 3 is the vehicles. You can’t deny that the vehicles in Halo:Reach and Halo 4 are ridiculously underpowered, especially the beloved Warthog.
Other than that, there are a few maps from Halo 3 I would love to see return… not that Halo 4 doesn’t have good maps, but there are some classics I miss, like Guardian…
> Or they forget what games were out around that time…because there were SO many good games to play other than Halo 3. >_>
0_o
2007 is widely considered to be one of, if not the strongest year in gaming history and is by far and away this gen’s strongest year.
H3 had insane levels of competition and was competing against all of this on a fresh console with a tiny install base of players.
Mass Effect
AC1
Bioshock
COD4
Gears 1. Don’t forget how amazing gears 1 was back then. It was a new graphical benchmark. It’s gameplay was new and fresh. It was a monster.
NHL and FIFA which just like gears were incredible at this time because this is when they first made their leap into next gen. NHL and FIFA 06 to 07 was a quantum leap.
H4 is competeting against a dying gen on it’s last breath where half the devs are away making next gen games with an insanely huge install base. Not to mention a none IW COD.
> Yes because building off of COD4, a 2007 game is so much fresher than building off H3, a 2007 game.
>
> Makes so much sense.
>
> Not to mention every single other FPS out there right now is also built off COD4 so it makes Halo 4 feel incredibly generic.
>
> We’ve been playing these custom class games for 7 years now. How about trying something different?
First off, the ordnance is much better than killstreaks. COD doesn’t give you a SAW or a grenade launcher…it gives you a -Yoinking!- helicopter.
“But make AAs ordnance! They should be ordnance!”
Oh yea…because Team Throwdown is so populated…
But anyway…what suggestions do you have? That actually changed it from Halo 3? Because all I read is:
“Whine, whine, whine, whine, we don’t want that but we also don’t know what to replace with that, whine, whine, whine, we hate you 343i, do something without us giving suggestions, whine, whine, whine.”
> > Or they forget what games were out around that time…because there were SO many good games to play other than Halo 3. >_>
>
> 0_o
>
> 2007 is widely considered to be one of, if not the strongest year in gaming history and is by far and away this gen’s strongest year.
>
> H3 had insane levels of competition and was competing against all of this on a fresh console with a tiny install base of players.
>
> Mass Effect
> AC1
> Bioshock
> COD4
> Gears 1. Don’t forget how amazing gears 1 was back then. It was a new graphical benchmark. It’s gameplay was new and fresh. It was a monster.
> NHL and FIFA which just like gears were incredible at this time because this is when they first made their leap into next gen. NHL and FIFA 06 to 07 was a quantum leap.
>
> H4 is competeting against a dying gen on it’s last breath where half the devs are away making next gen games with an insanely huge install base. Not to mention a none IW COD.
Yes people are forgetting that 2007 had very little Xbox 360s sold and Halo 3 still had higher daily peaks than Reach or Halo 4.
> Yeah I mean thank goodness 343i went with the vision of Halo they did. H3 was fun and all back in 2007, but it is 2013 and it needed to change. The AA’s make the game way more interesting, and <mark>its not just all about the Br anymore</mark> which is great! The game would be so boring if it had continued in the vain of H3. So I’m very happy that they are not listening to the people who want the game to go back to the boring game style of H3.
Instead it’s all about the DMR which requires NO skill, where as the BR required skill and did not destroy large maps.
> Yeah I mean thank goodness 343i went with the vision of Halo they did. H3 was fun and all back in 2007, but it is 2013 and it needed to change. The AA’s make the game way more interesting, and its not just all about the Br anymore which is great! The game would be so boring if it had continued in the vain of H3. So I’m very happy that they are not listening to the people who want the game to go back to the boring game style of H3.
Ok, well myself and the rest of the community that understands the gameplay at a higher level don’t like AAs. Change is such a cop out. We want change, sure, but we don’t want bad gameplay because of it. We want the gameplay we know and love to keep getting better. We don’t want it completely changed into something significantly worse.
It was never just about the BR. Shows how much you really know when you make statements like that. But whatever, I’ll bite. The game is now about the DMR. Good job.
It’s no surprise you’re happy. That doesn’t make any of what you just said even remotely true though.
I’m really starting to think this is a troll thread.
> <mark>Because all I read is:</mark>
> <mark>“Whine, whine, whine, whine, we don’t want that but we also don’t know what to replace with that, whine, whine, whine, we hate you 343i, do something without us giving suggestions, whine, whine, whine.”</mark>
Alrighty right peoples.
Throws banana into the air
Between you and me, you should be outside playing in the sunshine instead of reading all “whine threads” or choosing to refuse to read those threads that actually offered some good suggestions but nobody replied to.
> Yea, I’m so ashamed of this community sometimes. We blow Yoink! out of proportion like crazy.
>
> -Halo 3 had some of the worst netcode in history (So we bash Halo 4 for its occasional laggy game)
>
> -Every Halo has had ONE go-to, GOD weapon that demolishes everything else (So we bash Halo 4 for the DMR)
>
> -We complained that people quit too damn much in BTB in Halo 3 and Reach (So we bash Halo 4 for JIP)
>
> -Reach pissed everyone off with the bloom system (So we bash the DMR and say it needs more)
>
> -Halo 2 took like 6-7 months for its FIRST TU; in which it was unplayable (So we bash Halo 4 for not fixing everything within 2 weeks)
>
> -Halo 2’s campaign ended with one of the most PAINFUL cliffhangers EVER!! (So we bash Halo 4’s campaign for not being more like Halo 2’s)
>
> facepalm like crazy
Dropping down the truth bomb!