I’m not a big fan of the amount of 343i forge maps in/being added…
In the sprint they pretty much confirmed that BTB maps will all be made in Forge…
Is anyone else disappointed by this?
Most of Reach’s maps were forged. As long as we get a boat load of maps that play well I won’t be bothered much.
Depends… by looking at the forge we are getting… these maps could be pretty spectacular and extremely good! thing is… i cant wait for the community to get there hands on it, some of the things people make are just… beyond this world! and thats the problem we face… the maps 343 put in… compared to what the community make are usually utter rubbish… if they put in maps that the community made… it would be amazingly good! so it just depends what the maps are… huge potential but its whether they use that to the games advantage…
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> Most of Reach’s maps were forged. As long as we get a boat load of maps that play well I won’t be bothered much.
They were community maps though…
These are maps 343 is making in forge and counting it as real maps…Even counting them in advertising when the community did things like this in Reach…
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> Depends… by looking at the forge we are getting… these maps could be pretty spectacular and extremely good! thing is… i cant wait for the community to get there hands on it, some of the things people make are just… beyond this world! and thats the problem we face… the maps 343 put in… compared to what the community make are usually utter rubbish… if they put in maps that the community made… it would be amazingly good! so it just depends what the maps are… huge potential but its whether they use that to the games advantage…
I was really hoping for 343 to make their own maps for BTB that have detail that can’t be reached with the editor
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Do what Bungie did with reach and put community maps into the game after they get their hands on it…
Not 343 randomly decide they’re forge pros or something
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> > Depends… by looking at the forge we are getting… these maps could be pretty spectacular and extremely good! thing is… i cant wait for the community to get there hands on it, some of the things people make are just… beyond this world! and thats the problem we face… the maps 343 put in… compared to what the community make are usually utter rubbish… if they put in maps that the community made… it would be amazingly good! so it just depends what the maps are… huge potential but its whether they use that to the games advantage…
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If its 343 making them then… i dont have high hopes… nothing against 343… but there forge maps and bungies forge maps were terrible! get Forge in the hands of community and let them loose and theyll make something beautiful i guarantee it! although they might introduce proper made BTB maps eventually… hopefully and introduce community made ones…
In sprint they were bringing in outside (community) map creators and wanted to see what they thought of the forge tools and had them recreate old halo maps to explore the tools. They all seemed happy and said that 343i had added many of the features they had been requested for a while. I think the tools look really in depth and will provide lots of good maps. Having said that, I don’t think they ever explicitly said that all BTB maps will be forge made so nothing has been confirmed yet.
As long as there is a Bloodgultch/Valhalla map, I’ll be set. I also really hope they add in community maps/gametypes to the servers. Also King of the Hill please.
My only real complaint about forge maps is gameplay wise they can be fun and everything, but they aren’t very visually appealing like a lego set made with off color bricks, it works, but you still go, “well that sticks out.”
Heres to hoping they have a good mix of forge and “created” maps in the future.
Don’t knock it until you see it. Forge is about the only good thing coming out.
If I can somehow get my designs in the circle I would gladly design. I won’t lie, upon seeing how you can make the terrain seamless (from a Ducain vid) I want to make a Vietnam style BTB. Imagine fighting topside in trenches with good view range and down below in tunnels for those who love their shotgun. Or perhaps some good old fashion rush the bunker hill?
The BTB maps are being made by the Best Forgers in the Halo Community. Not the 343I guys. I’m extremely excited by it
BTB will be a shadow of its former self if it doesn’t include the good ol blood gulch map.
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> > > Depends… by looking at the forge we are getting… these maps could be pretty spectacular and extremely good! thing is… i cant wait for the community to get there hands on it, some of the things people make are just… beyond this world! and thats the problem we face… the maps 343 put in… compared to what the community make are usually utter rubbish… if they put in maps that the community made… it would be amazingly good! so it just depends what the maps are… huge potential but its whether they use that to the games advantage…
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> If its 343 making them then… i dont have high hopes… nothing against 343… but there forge maps and bungies forge maps were terrible! get Forge in the hands of community and let them loose and theyll make something beautiful i guarantee it! although they might introduce proper made BTB maps eventually… hopefully and introduce community made ones…
If this is the case, and they make the forge maps for BTB and make them for esports or pro player based, am gonna put a bullet in my head.
In other words what i meant is that they forge something thats not for social or casual gamers but something like symmetric ESPORTS yoink.
They could use war zone maps with barriers to make em a bit smaller 
I’m super excited for BTB. Can’t wait. I’m curious to see what maps they’ll come up with.
343 is asking “the best community forgers” to forge remakes of some BTB maps from the past. As someone else mentioned in this thread already, you see this in 343’s “The Sprint” mini series…which BTW commands resources to be spent outside making the actual game itself…& for no other reason but to enhance marketing. Ahhh anyway moving on!.
Here’s the issue I take with this . . .
They had all of these “community forgers” come on-site to 343’s studio…just to let them use Forge??? Why? Why not give them the keys to the real deal…the tools 343’s studio is supposedly filled with?
I don’t mean to take away from H5’s Forge & all the enhancements it will supposedly bring with it. That’s great & all, but if you’re asking outside individuals to create our BTB maps for you, and inviting them into your studio to work on those BTB maps…why not do it right & all the way? Why not give them access to the tools that you (343) are apparently not making use of yourselves? Why did you (343) launch with a significant amount of “Forged” maps yourselves?
Something doesn’t add up here. Why isn’t the dev–with a fully equipped studio–making use of all their top-line tech? Why did H5 launch with all developer-made maps, yet many (if not most) being created with limited tools intended for use by the customer/community?
I really want to know how much money 343 spent on actually developing this game and how much they put into all their marketing. I think if we were given these figures some of the corporate fanboys lurking here would be sent into a sheer state of shock.
Its bad that BTB is not in the game at launch, but bad enough that they are releasing it after the game has launched & have maps that are forge only, I hope that this changes for the next game or just the future for halo in general.
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> Most of Reach’s maps were forged. As long as we get a boat load of maps that play well I won’t be bothered much.
Only because the DLC people paid for like the Anniversary Pack was removed from matchmaking.
People should not be defending something like this.