So about the Ammo Support Upgrade...

Why does it not give more than one extra magazine for the Assault Rifle? It brings the total ammo count from 224 to 256.

Compare this to how it affects the DMR (from 42 to 84) or the Battle Rifle (from 108 to 216) and it seems kinda…skewed. I say it should allow the AR to go up to 352 rounds like in Halo 3 or 320 for 10 magazines. I think that would balance things out a bit, the AR burns through ammo faster so why not boost it’s ammo a bit more?

What say you all?

I say stop using the AR.

> I say stop using the AR.

That is not an option I would accept nor does it improve said support upgrade.

personally i’d guess it’s because of each weapon is given X amount of ammo which can get at maximum Y kills

however the max ammo for the AR isn’t much higher then the amount they give to start with to balance it out with which does make it kinda useless

however i know one of the precision weapons goes from something like 81 to 131

> however i know one of the precision weapons goes from something like 81 to 131

I’m pretty sure the Carbine goes to 126, I don’t even want to think about the Forerunner rifle.

Strangely enough though Ammo does nothing to the Supressor. 288 before and 288 after.

The ARs ammo is probably only increased barely because it’s a spray and pray weapon, not a precision weapon.

I think it boils down to you being able to use up that ammunition. Its very easy to burn through precision weapons, but with CQC weapons you stand a much higher chance of being killed, so I guess they figure that you will end up dying before you can use it up.

> The ARs ammo is probably only increased barely because it’s a spray and pray weapon, not a precision weapon.

One would burn through the AR ammo faster than a BR or DMR though, if any weapon would be in need of more ammo it WOULD be the “spray and pray” one.

I love using the AR but I never seem to run out of ammo.

> I love using the AR but I never seem to run out of ammo.

In Wargames I would agree, it’s hard to run out. I’m talking more about Spartan Ops though, specifically Legendary where you will burn through everything.

Before anyone asks yes I realize that it’s so much easier to do Legendary runs with precision weapons, a bit too easy if you ask me…

> > The ARs ammo is probably only increased barely because it’s a spray and pray weapon, not a precision weapon.
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> One would burn through the AR ammo faster than a BR or DMR though, if any weapon would be in need of more ammo it WOULD be the “spray and pray” one.

I think that is exactly why it doesn’t get more. Halo has always tried to discourage spray and pray. So they don’t want to give the AR that much more ammo.

> I think that is exactly why it doesn’t get more. Halo has always tried to discourage spray and pray. So they don’t want to give the AR that much more ammo.

Ahem, the MA5B from Halo 1? 60 round magazines with 600 rounds in reserve? :stuck_out_tongue:

It was a good weapon back then too, range deficient but used in the right situations it was practically a chainsaw.

Halo 3’s AR got 352 rounds in reserve. Halo Reach’s AR got 288 if I remember correctly.

While you get more ammo at start, it also allows for more ammo reserve acquisition.

The DMR can hold up to 84 rounds in reserve with Ammo in use.

> > I love using the AR but I never seem to run out of ammo.
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> In Wargames I would agree, it’s hard to run out. I’m talking more about Spartan Ops though, specifically Legendary where you will burn through everything.
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> Before anyone asks yes I realize that it’s so much easier to do Legendary runs with precision weapons, a bit too easy if you ask me…

It doesn’t matter if you die in Spartan Ops though. You get unlimited respawns.

I think it’s just because the game is still maturing gameplay wise. I’m sure it is intended that the suppressor is not affected whatsoever, and maybe the assault rifle is just being balanced is all. I’m more than certain that given a few patches, 343i will improve this application andtweak it for balance.

regardless I still use it for my assault rifle…

… Because the assault rifle is my favorite weapon :slight_smile:

> I think it’s just because the game is still maturing gameplay wise. I’m sure it is intended that the suppressor is not affected whatsoever, and maybe the assault rifle is just being balanced is all. I’m more than certain that given a few patches, 343i will improve this application andtweak it for balance.

True true, it did just come out recently so I’ll keep on hoping.

> regardless I still use it for my assault rifle…
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> … Because the assault rifle is my favorite weapon :slight_smile:

Same here, it’s the iconic Halo weapon! Loved the MA5B from Halo 1, the 5C from Halo 3/ODST, didn’t care much for the MA37 from Reach though. Kinda on the weak side that one was.

Little bit of a shameless bumping. whistles