Seriously. It’s been a year. These ego’s made of glass, fragile little smurf people are destroooyyyiiinnnggg the competitive playlist. Whether or not I’m ranking up or winning games no longer has anything to do with how I’m playing or how well my team is doing. It’s now a matter of who has the guy that’s going to go 38-2 on their team. It’s ridiculous and it’s ruining the competitive playlist. Has there been anything said on the subject? Any mention of a possible fix at all?
I understand that this is an unintended consequence of allowing people to have infinite gold accounts but there has to be something they can do…
there isnt, separate accounts is separate accounts. There is no real way to tell when an account is a smurf (you can say gamer-score but some people do legitimately just start, i know not all do) Its not new, and its not going away unless gold accounts are limited. Not the games fault, its microsofts.
I have stopped playing Arena almost altogether because of this reason. I can go to WZ and do just fine without ever using a power weapon. Go to Arena, and you’ve got at least 2 people on the other team getting 20-30 kills. I absolutely hate it because I’ve always preferred Arena over WZ since launch. **** these kinds of players
Friends were playing a arena game two days ago, they go back to theater and the smurf not only was in camo, no camo on that map, but flew around killing everyone at triple speed, and no speed boost on the map. Hard to play with things like that going on.
I was solo queueing last and ran into an obvious To4 and man, it was comical how far up each other’s butts they were… always running together. And I’m constantly spawning away from my team running into them around the next corner. I’m getting them one-shot all the time, getting robbed of kills…
It got to the point where I just didn’t care anymore, and I started running around corners and Spartan Charging them, and cleaning them up with a headshot… got 3 or 4 kills right at the end of the game and they got “the bag.” Hard. lol
I’m nonplussed that nobody considers quitting a match like this. I rely on that tactic more than I should and I often use it where it isn’t really warranted, but if you really don’t want to play a match against a smurf team, and most especially if it really strikes you as unfair (and it is), then don’t just report and move on. Report, quit, and move on. If more people would leave the match then pretty soon these guys would have nobody left to mop up. That may not be sending the message you’d like to send in a perfect world, but it’s a good message just the same.
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> I’m nonplussed that nobody considers quitting a match like this. I rely on that tactic more than I should and I often use it where it isn’t really warranted, but if you really don’t want to play a match against a smurf team, and most especially if it really strikes you as unfair (and it is), then don’t just report and move on. Report, quit, and move on. If more people would leave the match then pretty soon these guys would have nobody left to mop up. That may not be sending the message you’d like to send in a perfect world, but it’s a good message just the same.
Until you get punished for it by being hit with an hour-long quit ban.
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> > I’m nonplussed that nobody considers quitting a match like this. I rely on that tactic more than I should and I often use it where it isn’t really warranted, but if you really don’t want to play a match against a smurf team, and most especially if it really strikes you as unfair (and it is), then don’t just report and move on. Report, quit, and move on. If more people would leave the match then pretty soon these guys would have nobody left to mop up. That may not be sending the message you’d like to send in a perfect world, but it’s a good message just the same.
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> Until you get punished for it by being hit with an hour-long quit ban.
I guess it depends on how many smurf-filled games you run up against. I can only say that I’ve made a science out of the quit ban and nobody gets it in any other way than by making it their purpose in life to get it. You can walk away from a match here and there without consequence. And even if they ban you from arena you can still play warzone. If that’s any consolation.
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> I’m nonplussed that nobody considers quitting a match like this. I rely on that tactic more than I should and I often use it where it isn’t really warranted, but if you really don’t want to play a match against a smurf team, and most especially if it really strikes you as unfair (and it is), then don’t just report and move on. Report, quit, and move on. If more people would leave the match then pretty soon these guys would have nobody left to mop up. That may not be sending the message you’d like to send in a perfect world, but it’s a good message just the same.
I hear what you’re saying, but the main reason I stay in is the ease of reporting. Otherwise, I would have to look up the match on Waypoint or something to that effect to find out who needs to be reported. Plus, I am able to take the time to see if they are in a party, and need to report whoever is in that party.
I mean, obviously it ruins the competitive nail-biting sort of atmosphere you want in arena but beyond that, it’s also turned the ranking system into a broken, pointless mess. If we win, we get 3 whopping csr or something equally comical, but if we lose against the smurf? Our CSR takes a rocket to the face because he’s a plat 3… it’s a joke.
I don’t report though. It’s futile. They are going to make 4,738 more accounts regardless.
I really dont know what can be done here honestly. I guess I just wanted to start a conversation because it’s a genuine problem. A game breaking one, honestly. I suppose Microsoft could put a limit on the amount of gold accounts one can have on a console. Who genuinely needs like 8 gold accounts on their console? Literally nobody. If nothing else, maybe 343 can devise a way to at the very least deincentivize smurfing in Halo 6.
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> Can’t say I’ve had this problem before, but all you can really do is report them and quit the match. No sense in staying in those kinds of matches.
It’s more pervasive in the Gold to Diamond range in my experience. Probably at its worst around high plat low diamond. Once these smurfs get into the onyx division, it’s no longer fish in a barrel, they no longer feel pro and so they go make a new account. If you should be in Onyx but you’re placed in Plat or Diamond, the grind to onyx is tedious and maddening as you run into a lot of these guys. The result? You win one, you lose one. You win one, you lose one. You maintain a 50% win rate and because the smurf is often a lower rank than you, you find yourself losing more CSR for the losses than you gain for a wins. You go nowhere.
I mean, look at the last game I played on Truth. A full squad, against my team of 4 randoms who are not communicating. I had 40 kills… 40… I don’t belong in diamond. But I can’t get out unless I party up with friends and steamroll people for a few hours. Once I get to Onyx, the smurf issue is less present and it’s more fun. But getting there solo? It’s a nightmare.
And I’d like to be clear about my last post. I’m not trying to suggest that I’m the greatest player in the world. I can hang with mid onyx players fine but I’m not going pro anytime soon. But that is precisely what compelled me to post about this. When the smurf shows up, I generally do alright against him. And if my team is decent, it’s not really a problem. But invariably I see guys on my team going like 2-23 when the smurf is around and I can’t even imagine how discouraging that has to be. I wouldn’t even want to play anymore.
This is my favorite game and it has been since I was a kid. I don’t want to see the population die out because it’s being overrun by kids, so pathetically insecure, that they need to manipulate the ranking system to romp on infinitely les skilled players.
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> > I’m nonplussed that nobody considers quitting a match like this. I rely on that tactic more than I should and I often use it where it isn’t really warranted, but if you really don’t want to play a match against a smurf team, and most especially if it really strikes you as unfair (and it is), then don’t just report and move on. Report, quit, and move on. If more people would leave the match then pretty soon these guys would have nobody left to mop up. That may not be sending the message you’d like to send in a perfect world, but it’s a good message just the same.
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> Until you get punished for it by being hit with an hour-long quit ban.
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> Seriously. It’s been a year. These ego’s made of glass, fragile little smurf people are destroooyyyiiinnnggg the competitive playlist. Whether or not I’m ranking up or winning games no longer has anything to do with how I’m playing or how well my team is doing. It’s now a matter of who has the guy that’s going to go 38-2 on their team. It’s ridiculous and it’s ruining the competitive playlist. Has there been anything said on the subject? Any mention of a possible fix at all?
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> I understand that this is an unintended consequence of allowing people to have infinite gold accounts but there has to be something they can do…