why is there nothing being done about smurfing and boosting!!! For one it makes it impossible to solo queue on any ranked playlist!!! Secondly if there is someone going positive 12 every game y are they ranking platinum??? Third does 343 even care that they are ppl cheating on the game cause last time i checked smurfing and boosting are CHEATING!!! OR DID I MISS SOMETHING
Block and report for like everything. And encourage people from that game to do the same thing.
Whoa, relax.
343 is doing something. Dr. Menke and the Matchmaking team are rolling out a new system called TrueSkill2. It should detect and elevate smurfs much faster than before, plus give you more balanced matches.
Boosting is cheating, but smurfing isn’t actually breaking any rules. It’s aggravating getting paired against smurfs, but reporting them for something that isn’t against the rules just floods xbl service when they have actual cases of online abuse that need to be reviewed
I’ll admit that Im part of the problem. I have a smurf account that I use to play ranked when I don’t have another friend online to run with to avoid getting paired against smurfs and losing to a team of golds (who are actually Onyx on their main accs). My suggestion would be to also make an alternate account specifically for running solo.
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> why is there nothing being done about smurfing and boosting!!! For one it makes it impossible to solo queue on any ranked playlist!!! Secondly if there is someone going positive 12 every game y are they ranking platinum??? Third does 343 even care that they are ppl cheating on the game cause last time i checked smurfing and boosting are CHEATING!!! OR DID I MISS SOMETHING
Boosting is cheating.
smurfing isn’t. They aren’t breaking any rules or making their main any better (boosting whole smurfing is cheating).
and tbh nothing can be done besides adding a cap lvl you have to pass before playing ranked. Like 25 or 50.
but if I was a new player and was forced to play that awful warzone or social id quit halo before I even started
Can you even boost in Halo 5 lol
The games too much of a sweatfest anyway they’ll just make more smurfs so they get better matches. Why? Because it’s all about that K/D instead of fun
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> I’ll admit that Im part of the problem. I have a smurf account that I use to play ranked when I don’t have another friend online to run with to avoid getting paired against smurfs and losing to a team of golds (who are actually Onyx on their main accs). My suggestion would be to also make an alternate account specifically for running solo.
This. But you shouldn’t have to use a second acc to play solo ranked. This guy, like most of us, probably you too, want the highest rank on or main account. And some of us doesn’t even have friends to play with, which makes creating a new acc even more boring.
Halo 5 is the only game I have more losses than wins since I started playing online when I was a kid. That’s because it is impossible to win solo in this game. Even if you carry the team, you lose 9/10 if you’re up against either a team or smurfs. Or even a team of smurfs!
Something is wrong in H5 MM. But I still enjoy the social playlists and wz.
They should make a smurf playlist, where only smurfs match smurfs. Like the bad sport servers in GTA V Online. Where they put people that ruin the fun for other players. Single out the obvious smurfs, put them in a filter that only find other smurfs and let them see who’s the smurfiest smurf.
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> They should make a smurf playlist, where only smurfs match smurfs. Like the bad sport servers in GTA V Online. Where they put people that ruin the fun for other players. Single out the obvious smurfs, put them in a filter that only find other smurfs and let them see who’s the smurfiest smurf.
People would just keep making new accounts so it wouldn’t really accomplish anything. The root of the issue is Microsoft allowing people to make numerous new accounts. If they limited it to only a couple accounts per gold, then it might deter most of the problem. It won’t completely get rid of it since this was an issue even when you had to pay for every account, but it should help.
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> > They should make a smurf playlist, where only smurfs match smurfs. Like the bad sport servers in GTA V Online. Where they put people that ruin the fun for other players. Single out the obvious smurfs, put them in a filter that only find other smurfs and let them see who’s the smurfiest smurf.
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> People would just keep making new accounts so it wouldn’t really accomplish anything. The root of the issue is Microsoft allowing people to make numerous new accounts. If they limited it to only a couple accounts per gold, then it might deter most of the problem. It won’t completely get rid of it since this was an issue even when you had to pay for every account, but it should help.
Thank you, you are the only one in this thread that has addressed the root cause for smurfing. It’s not so much a 343 problem as it is a Microsoft issue as this can be done in just about any game and is not exclusive to Halo. Still, 343 is doing something about it which should alleviate smurfing.
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> why is there nothing being done about smurfing and boosting!!! For one it makes it impossible to solo queue on any ranked playlist!!! Secondly if there is someone going positive 12 every game y are they ranking platinum??? Third does 343 even care that they are ppl cheating on the game cause last time i checked smurfing and boosting are CHEATING!!! OR DID I MISS SOMETHING
- Smurfing isn’t cheating
- Trueskill2 will actually make it easier to boost. Just look at how MMR impacted infection if you don’t believe me. I guarantee you that you’ll run into a party trying to boost for wins.
If you want the boosting problem solved, just keep MMR to ranked playlists. Then there will be no reason to boost in unranked modes, where boosting and smurfing are at its peak.
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> They should make a smurf playlist, where only smurfs match smurfs. Like the bad sport servers in GTA V Online. Where they put people that ruin the fun for other players. Single out the obvious smurfs, put them in a filter that only find other smurfs and let them see who’s the smurfiest smurf.
Yes, because putting players in 10+ minute wait queues and locking the game to certain parts of the population in said game with a dwindling population will clearly make things better.
/sarcasm.
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> Halo 5 is the only game I have more losses than wins since I started playing online when I was a kid. That’s because it is impossible to win solo in this game. Even if you carry the team, you lose 9/10 if you’re up against either a team or smurfs. Or even a team of smurfs!
The mentality of “Oh, it’s not my teammates fault for being a bunch of potatoes, it’s the enemy team’s fault for being better at the game!” makes no sense. You’re saying that you have to carry the team, yet you still lose because “I should be able to beat everyone in the lobby, but these dam smurfs aren’t making it possible!” that very thought in which you’re implying in regards to this whole situation suggests that you’re coughing up your losses to the excuse of “smurfs”, rather than actual good players.
Please tell me how that mentality makes any form of sense to you, because I’m clearly not getting it.
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> > why is there nothing being done about smurfing and boosting!!! For one it makes it impossible to solo queue on any ranked playlist!!! Secondly if there is someone going positive 12 every game y are they ranking platinum??? Third does 343 even care that they are ppl cheating on the game cause last time i checked smurfing and boosting are CHEATING!!! OR DID I MISS SOMETHING
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> 1. Smurfing isn’t cheating
> 2. Trueskill2 will actually make it easier to boost. Just look at how MMR impacted infection if you don’t believe me. I guarantee you that you’ll run into a party trying to boost for wins.
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> If you want the boosting problem solved, just keep MMR to ranked playlists. Then there will be no reason to boost in unranked modes, where boosting and smurfing are at its peak.
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> > They should make a smurf playlist, where only smurfs match smurfs. Like the bad sport servers in GTA V Online. Where they put people that ruin the fun for other players. Single out the obvious smurfs, put them in a filter that only find other smurfs and let them see who’s the smurfiest smurf.
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> Yes, because putting players in 10+ minute wait queues and locking the game to certain parts of the population in said game with a dwindling population will clearly make things better.
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> /sarcasm.
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> > Halo 5 is the only game I have more losses than wins since I started playing online when I was a kid. That’s because it is impossible to win solo in this game. Even if you carry the team, you lose 9/10 if you’re up against either a team or smurfs. Or even a team of smurfs!
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> The mentality of “Oh, it’s not my teammates fault for being a bunch of potatoes, it’s the enemy team’s fault for being better at the game!” makes no sense. You’re saying that you have to carry the team, yet you still lose because “I should be able to beat everyone in the lobby, but these dam smurfs aren’t making it possible!” that very thought in which you’re implying in regards to this whole situation suggests that you’re coughing up your losses to the excuse of “smurfs”, rather than actual good players.
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> Please tell me how that mentality makes any form of sense to you, because I’m clearly not getting it.
I agree completely with everything you said and I can tell you mmr impacted infection very much. When mmr was very tight you had people boosting and feeding their friends killionaires.
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> > They should make a smurf playlist, where only smurfs match smurfs. Like the bad sport servers in GTA V Online. Where they put people that ruin the fun for other players. Single out the obvious smurfs, put them in a filter that only find other smurfs and let them see who’s the smurfiest smurf.
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> People would just keep making new accounts so it wouldn’t really accomplish anything. The root of the issue is Microsoft allowing people to make numerous new accounts. If they limited it to only a couple accounts per gold, then it might deter most of the problem. It won’t completely get rid of it since this was an issue even when you had to pay for every account, but it should help.
I wasn’t even aware you could keep making new, I thought you could make like 3 accounts with one month free gold and that that was it.
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> > They should make a smurf playlist, where only smurfs match smurfs. Like the bad sport servers in GTA V Online. Where they put people that ruin the fun for other players. Single out the obvious smurfs, put them in a filter that only find other smurfs and let them see who’s the smurfiest smurf.
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> People would just keep making new accounts so it wouldn’t really accomplish anything. The root of the issue is Microsoft allowing people to make numerous new accounts. If they limited it to only a couple accounts per gold, then it might deter most of the problem. It won’t completely get rid of it since this was an issue even when you had to pay for every account, but it should help.
And that’s why I wrote “Single out the obvious smurfs”, not all new accounts.
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> > why is there nothing being done about smurfing and boosting!!! For one it makes it impossible to solo queue on any ranked playlist!!! Secondly if there is someone going positive 12 every game y are they ranking platinum??? Third does 343 even care that they are ppl cheating on the game cause last time i checked smurfing and boosting are CHEATING!!! OR DID I MISS SOMETHING
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> 1. Smurfing isn’t cheating
> 2. Trueskill2 will actually make it easier to boost. Just look at how MMR impacted infection if you don’t believe me. I guarantee you that you’ll run into a party trying to boost for wins.
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> If you want the boosting problem solved, just keep MMR to ranked playlists. Then there will be no reason to boost in unranked modes, where boosting and smurfing are at its peak.
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> > They should make a smurf playlist, where only smurfs match smurfs. Like the bad sport servers in GTA V Online. Where they put people that ruin the fun for other players. Single out the obvious smurfs, put them in a filter that only find other smurfs and let them see who’s the smurfiest smurf.
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> Yes, because putting players in 10+ minute wait queues and locking the game to certain parts of the population in said game with a dwindling population will clearly make things better.
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> /sarcasm.
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> > Halo 5 is the only game I have more losses than wins since I started playing online when I was a kid. That’s because it is impossible to win solo in this game. Even if you carry the team, you lose 9/10 if you’re up against either a team or smurfs. Or even a team of smurfs!
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> The mentality of “Oh, it’s not my teammates fault for being a bunch of potatoes, it’s the enemy team’s fault for being better at the game!” makes no sense. You’re saying that you have to carry the team, yet you still lose because “I should be able to beat everyone in the lobby, but these dam smurfs aren’t making it possible!” that very thought in which you’re implying in regards to this whole situation suggests that you’re coughing up your losses to the excuse of “smurfs”, rather than actual good players.
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> Please tell me how that mentality makes any form of sense to you, because I’m clearly not getting it.
The waiting time in H5 is already bad, so it wouldn’t really change anything. And I would rather wait and have a good game than play against a team of sweaty smurfs.
I don’t blame my team mates, no. I never do. I blame the H5 system in that I can go solo and get teamed against 4 tryhards, and get 3 new players on my team.
That makes no sense. I never had this problem in any other Halo game. Thus my comment.
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> And that’s why I wrote “Single out the obvious smurfs”, not all new accounts.
Which is why I mentioned they’ll just keep making new smurf accounts. The game is getting better at detecting smurfs, but it’s not gonna figure that out right away and people will learn how to play just good enough to not make it obvious. It wouldn’t really matter anyway, because once the game figures out their actual skill aka smurf, it will start matching them accordingly so they wouldn’t need to make a smurf playlist.
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> > And that’s why I wrote “Single out the obvious smurfs”, not all new accounts.
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> Which is why I mentioned they’ll just keep making new smurf accounts. The game is getting better at detecting smurfs, but it’s not gonna figure that out right away and people will learn how to play just good enough to not make it obvious. It wouldn’t really matter anyway, because once the game figures out their actual skill aka smurf, it will start matching them accordingly so they wouldn’t need to make a smurf playlist.
Alrighty then!
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> > > why is there nothing being done about smurfing and boosting!!! For one it makes it impossible to solo queue on any ranked playlist!!! Secondly if there is someone going positive 12 every game y are they ranking platinum??? Third does 343 even care that they are ppl cheating on the game cause last time i checked smurfing and boosting are CHEATING!!! OR DID I MISS SOMETHING
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> > 1. Smurfing isn’t cheating
> > 2. Trueskill2 will actually make it easier to boost. Just look at how MMR impacted infection if you don’t believe me. I guarantee you that you’ll run into a party trying to boost for wins.
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> > If you want the boosting problem solved, just keep MMR to ranked playlists. Then there will be no reason to boost in unranked modes, where boosting and smurfing are at its peak.
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> > > They should make a smurf playlist, where only smurfs match smurfs. Like the bad sport servers in GTA V Online. Where they put people that ruin the fun for other players. Single out the obvious smurfs, put them in a filter that only find other smurfs and let them see who’s the smurfiest smurf.
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> > Yes, because putting players in 10+ minute wait queues and locking the game to certain parts of the population in said game with a dwindling population will clearly make things better.
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> > /sarcasm.
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> > > Halo 5 is the only game I have more losses than wins since I started playing online when I was a kid. That’s because it is impossible to win solo in this game. Even if you carry the team, you lose 9/10 if you’re up against either a team or smurfs. Or even a team of smurfs!
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> > The mentality of “Oh, it’s not my teammates fault for being a bunch of potatoes, it’s the enemy team’s fault for being better at the game!” makes no sense. You’re saying that you have to carry the team, yet you still lose because “I should be able to beat everyone in the lobby, but these dam smurfs aren’t making it possible!” that very thought in which you’re implying in regards to this whole situation suggests that you’re coughing up your losses to the excuse of “smurfs”, rather than actual good players.
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> > Please tell me how that mentality makes any form of sense to you, because I’m clearly not getting it.
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> The waiting time in H5 is already bad, so it wouldn’t really change anything. And I would rather wait and have a good game than play against a team of sweaty smurfs.
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> I don’t blame my team mates, no. I never do. I blame the H5 system in that I can go solo and get teamed against 4 tryhards, and get 3 new players on my team.
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> That makes no sense. I never had this problem in any other Halo game. Thus my comment.
That’s not my point at all. You’re shifting blame to other point unnecessarily when the real problem lies between your teammates, and not what enemies you get. The only reason why you “think” you run into this problem is because simply put, the MMR favors those with lower skill levels when it comes to finding matches, so logically you’ll get put with smurfs because of how much the system can be abused. If they just removed the mmr system in unranked playlists and kept it to ranked, where it’s needed the most, I’d be fine with it. This however, isn’t the case.
"The waiting time in H5 is already bad, so it wouldn’t really change anything. "
It’s a lot worse the higher your hidden MMR is, so I think you know where my stance is on this. I shouldn’t have to wait a few minutes to find a match. I should just be put into one and have that be that.
Obviously, when you’re playing ranked, you want your matches to be as fair as possible. Again, this is understandable. What isn’t understandable is that they shove all of this “true skill” BS down our throats in playlists where it isn’t needed, especially in playlists like action sack. As a result, people use smurf accounts so that they don’t have to be put in 24/7 sweat lobbies.
You can’t blame someone for wanting to have fun in these types of cases, even if it is at the expense of others. The user(s) in question, simply put, just want to have fun. They don’t want to feel like every game they plan is for a spot in the HCS world championship. This mentality of “every match is going to be a sweaty competitive match” is what encourages people to use smurfs in the first place.
We can complain over and over but it will never change