Small nerf to DMR and small buff to Carbine

IMO the DMR wins most battles and the carbine wins close to none, i feel like a jerk when i bring the DMR out bc it breaks gameplay… I havent seen any problems with LR or BR, i think that those two are balance properly thus far

I still dislike the BR for replacing my AR in Halo 2. But I used the Carbine a fair amount in the smaller maps due to it firing faster than the DMR/BR. Remember the DMR is made for long-range combat, you don’t fight a sniper from a mile off with a 9mm.

Agreed.

The DMR is basically better than the BR in every way possible, except for the fact that the BR is “Easier to use”. The problem with this is the same problem the AR had in Halo 3. When it comes to high level play, ease of use is mostly irrelevent, so at that point the DMR becomes superior in every.

Carbine needs a slight damage buff, as its kill time is too slow atm.

i think the carbine is just fine but i think the DMR needs to be nerfed, it just seems to dominate everything.

I think it’s perfectly balance the way it is. I see carbines beating dmrs all the time.

I have a 2 kd and use the BR. Never really lose to DMR. I’m not pro and have not really gone up against particularly good players either, but in all honesty I think it’s a fair game. BR is just my style, loved the feel of it and I don’t think that just because the pro’s use it that it’s the best weapon. There were a few people on those MLG teams in Dallas using the BR and I don’t think any of them went negative.

the dmr is fine if anything the carbine needs a VERY VERY SMALL damage buff.

The DMR and BR are both pretty darn solid in my opinion. The Carbine is pretty nice, but it could certainly use a little bit of a buff like you guys are saying. Maybe it’s just me, but it’s looking like the Light Rifle may be a bit too strong. Still really early in the game to make a call like these though.

Also: still trying to figure out the differentiations/ use cases the Assault Rifles have that set their usage appart.

I agree the DMR needs a nerf, a lowered RoF would be good so it matches the BRs RoF, and the Carbine could use a damage buff, maybe make it 7sk and (maybe) improve the accuracy a little bit. I’ve used it quite alot and it does lose against a DMR almost every time, unless you land 3-4 shots before you’re hit… Versus a BR it is quite even though.

Those who vote “No” are obviously biased to the DMR

Yeah, the DMR needs to be slightly less powerful and the Carbine needs to be slightly more powerful. It would balance things out for sure.

umm… if the DMR is a better gun than why -YOINK!- about it and instead just use it?

> umm… if the DMR is a better gun than why -YOINK!- about it and instead just use it?

Because some people want to utilize the entire sandbox and not be forced to use one weapon to be able to compete against others… cough halo 3 BR cough

I don’t complain at all really but, this has annoyed me. The DMR does win most battles against any other weapon at any range. It needs a slower fire rate. If it’s supposed to be a longed ranged weapon, then it’s needed. I don’t want to sound like some cry baby over this but yeah. It’s really needed, I’ve used the DMR and I found it over powered when using it.

Fail poll, ask 2 different questions and only give one set of answers.

Which of those that said yes agreed to both?
Which of those that said no actually disagree with both?

I’m going to say no because the DMR is fine, however I do agree the carbine needs a slight buff, however only ever so slight.

Like Loins said the DMR is fine where it is. Even I have been handed my tail to me when I am facing somebody with a Carbine or a BR. The balance of the game is fine where it is.

I voted yes,but I want to clarify why. I do not think it is overpowered. The excessive flinch it causes and zero bloom is all that needs to be tweeked “slightly”. Weakening the gun would make it useless. It should have a clear advantage at range over the BR. Tweaking the flinch and bloom should balance it with the Carbine over distance. And anyone wanting the RoF tweak should realize that is a horribly bad idea. The rifle would have no shot at getting you through close and mid range engagements.

You would say the DMR is good enough to trump the sandbox, which is utter crap. It really isn’t. The DMR only does one thing ridiculously well, which is trump the BR at long range. Which it is supposed to. This is intentional.

At close range both guns take the same amount of thought and skill to kill with. At long range the DMR shines because that is its intended range. Of COURSE you lose firing off BR at range, the spread makes it significantly harder to kill like that.

DMR babbies are crying really loud over a feature that is working like intended. If you are using the BR you should be smart enough to engage a little closer against DMR players. If you can’t it is YOUR fault.

343i doesn’t have to save you from your own stupidity. Learn to use your weapon at ITS comfort zone while denying your opponent the ability to fight at theirs.

People with modded controllers destroy with carbines. Don’t buff that gun or it will only get worse.

> People with modded controllers destroy with carbines. Don’t buff that gun or it will only get worse.

Modded controllers?

I’m new to xbox so please excuse my lack of knowledge.

I do think the BR needs to get a buff of some sort. If they did that then I don’t really think the DMR would need to be nerfed.