For truly competitive players, there is the Arena. The standard Slayer playlist should be a little more casual oriented. By this, I mean that the DMR should be a map weapon in standard slayer playlists. I like the DMR and realize how essential it is to Halo gameplay, I just feel that the assault rifle should be the staple weapon that you start with because of its simplicity. DMR gametypes should still pop up occasionally, just to mix things up. My issue is that I end up playing a DMR based gametype more often than I can play one with an assault rifle in standard slayer playlists.
Spawn with DMR and AR.
Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
> Spawn with DMR and AR.
> Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
What about those that like Pistols?
> > Spawn with DMR and AR.
> > Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
>
> What about those that like Pistols?
So? The Pistol is just a less-accurate DMR with a smaller magazine. It is totally redundant and unneeded.
> > > Spawn with DMR and AR.
> > > Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
> >
> > What about those that like Pistols?
>
> So? The Pistol is just a less-accurate DMR with a smaller magazine. <mark>It is totally redundant and unneeded.</mark>
HOW DARE YOU! (JK LOL) The pistol is still a beast in Reach and if you asked me (I know you didnt) I would toss the DMR before the pistol.
> > > > Spawn with DMR and AR.
> > > > Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
> > >
> > > What about those that like Pistols?
> >
> > So? The Pistol is just a less-accurate DMR with a smaller magazine. <mark>It is totally redundant and unneeded.</mark>
>
> HOW DARE YOU! (JK LOL) The pistol is still a beast in Reach and if you asked me (I know you didnt) I would toss the DMR before the pistol.
It’s too niche-ey to be a spawn weapon. While I do recognize its power; the DMR is just better.
I have over 15,000 kills with the Pistol in Competitive Reach.
I have 31,000 kills with the DMR.
I would say that the Magnum is my saviour when it’s AR starts. I hate the AR, so I use the magnum constantly. I love it in Reach, I actually have a reliable secondary start weapon. Where as in Halo 3 I was forced to use the AR because the Magnum was too slow and bulky.Until I got a BR
But I must say I do prefer the DMR and I will switch to it when I find one. But I normally swap out my AR. Sometimes at close range you can spam kill a sword guy with the Magnum so it’s handy to keep it.
> Spawn with DMR and AR.
> Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
No. When my team is losing, I don’t like getting team-killed by 4 enemy DMRs.
I play with randoms. It’s a very different game than organized team versus organized team. I end up playing A LOT of games 2 vs 4 or 3 vs 4 (with me on the short end) because of quitters, and when the other team has all DMRs, I tend to get spawn killed, and end up with a -12 (or worse) k/d for the game. In unbalanced games, when some opponents have lacked DMRs, my survival chances have been better.
> > Spawn with DMR and AR.
> > Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
>
> No. When my team is losing, I don’t like getting team-killed by 4 enemy DMRs.
>
> I play with randoms. It’s a very different game than organized team versus organized team. I end up playing A LOT of games 2 vs 4 or 3 vs 4 (with me on the short end) because of quitters, and when the other team has all DMRs, I tend to get spawn killed, and end up with a -12 (or worse) k/d for the game. In unbalanced games, when some opponents have lacked DMRs, my survival chances have been better.
This is also true in 4 vs 4 games when my teammates are even worse than me.
> > > > Spawn with DMR and AR.
> > > > Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
> > >
> > > What about those that like Pistols?
> >
> > So? The Pistol is just a less-accurate DMR with a smaller magazine. <mark>It is totally redundant and unneeded.</mark>
>
> HOW DARE YOU! (JK LOL) The pistol is still a beast in Reach and if you asked me (I know you didnt) I would toss the DMR before the pistol.
DMR saves the long range Pistol owns the DMR up close and can beat the out come of an AR. The Ar is good if u burst shot accurately with it! i prefer precision though! pistol should stay in 4 v 4’s!
The pistol is a limited weapon. It has spread regardless of the ROF. That in itself is counter intuitive. At first I thought it was connection, but then I tested it on LAN. Another weapon done poorly by bungie.
> The pistol is a limited weapon. It has spread regardless of the ROF. That in itself is counter intuitive. At first I thought it was connection, but then I tested it on LAN. Another weapon done poorly by bungie.
I’ve never had a problem with the pistol. Even in 100% if you pace properly, meaning let it full reset. You always win fights.
To be honest I always thought the pistol was bloom was a lot better than the DMR’s. I still dislike bloom.
Oh by the way the in the hands of skilled users. The DMR will always win. It can sustain accuracy a lot better.
Obviously talking 100% and 85%.
> > Spawn with DMR and AR.
> > Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
>
> No. When my team is losing, I don’t like getting team-killed by 4 enemy DMRs.
>
> I play with randoms. It’s a very different game than organized team versus organized team. I end up playing A LOT of games 2 vs 4 or 3 vs 4 (with me on the short end) because of quitters, and when the other team has all DMRs, I tend to get spawn killed, and end up with a -12 (or worse) k/d for the game. In unbalanced games, when some opponents have lacked DMRs, my survival chances have been better.
I think I understand what you are trying to say.
So when you’re down 2 players, and it is 2v4, you want the other team to get all the DMRs on the map while they spawn kill you at medium range, where your AR can’t actually hit before they kill you.
Right?
I don’t really care if it’s AR or DMR-starts, even though I usually end up picking up a DMR when it’s AR-start anyways.
Most people tend to prefer DMR-starts, so that’s why it’s usually picked over AR.
But I think that there should a blend of DMR starting on the map and assault rifle start.
> > > Spawn with DMR and AR.
> > > Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
> >
> > No. When my team is losing, I don’t like getting team-killed by 4 enemy DMRs.
> >
> > I play with randoms. It’s a very different game than organized team versus organized team. I end up playing A LOT of games 2 vs 4 or 3 vs 4 (with me on the short end) because of quitters, and when the other team has all DMRs, I tend to get spawn killed, and end up with a -12 (or worse) k/d for the game. In unbalanced games, when some opponents have lacked DMRs, my survival chances have been better.
>
> I think I understand what you are trying to say.
> So when you’re down 2 players, and it is 2v4, you want the other team to get all the DMRs on the map while they spawn kill you at medium range, where your AR can’t actually hit before they kill you.
>
> Right?
No.
> > > > Spawn with DMR and AR.
> > > > Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
> > >
> > > No. When my team is losing, I don’t like getting team-killed by 4 enemy DMRs.
> > >
> > > I play with randoms. It’s a very different game than organized team versus organized team. I end up playing A LOT of games 2 vs 4 or 3 vs 4 (with me on the short end) because of quitters, and when the other team has all DMRs, I tend to get spawn killed, and end up with a -12 (or worse) k/d for the game. In unbalanced games, when some opponents have lacked DMRs, my survival chances have been better.
> >
> > I think I understand what you are trying to say.
> > So when you’re down 2 players, and it is 2v4, you want the other team to get all the DMRs on the map while they spawn kill you at medium range, where your AR can’t actually hit before they kill you.
> >
> > Right?
>
> No.
Fill me in, then. If you’re getting spawn killed, why would not having a DMR off-spawn help you at all?
> > > > > Spawn with DMR and AR.
> > > > > Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
> > > >
> > > > No. When my team is losing, I don’t like getting team-killed by 4 enemy DMRs.
> > > >
> > > > I play with randoms. It’s a very different game than organized team versus organized team. I end up playing A LOT of games 2 vs 4 or 3 vs 4 (with me on the short end) because of quitters, and when the other team has all DMRs, I tend to get spawn killed, and end up with a -12 (or worse) k/d for the game. In unbalanced games, when some opponents have lacked DMRs, my survival chances have been better.
> > >
> > > I think I understand what you are trying to say.
> > > So when you’re down 2 players, and it is 2v4, you want the other team to get all the DMRs on the map while they spawn kill you at medium range, where your AR can’t actually hit before they kill you.
> > >
> > > Right?
> >
> > No.
>
> Fill me in, then. If you’re getting spawn killed, why would not having a DMR off-spawn help you at all?
Because, in my experience, I am not usually getting spawn killed when there are AR starts. And as hard as it may be for you to believe, not everyone grabs a DMR when there are AR starts. In fact, it’s even possible to play on a map that has no DMR spawns (e.g., Renova).
> > > > > > Spawn with DMR and AR.
> > > > > > Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
> > > > >
> > > > > No. When my team is losing, I don’t like getting team-killed by 4 enemy DMRs.
> > > > >
> > > > > I play with randoms. It’s a very different game than organized team versus organized team. I end up playing A LOT of games 2 vs 4 or 3 vs 4 (with me on the short end) because of quitters, and when the other team has all DMRs, I tend to get spawn killed, and end up with a -12 (or worse) k/d for the game. In unbalanced games, when some opponents have lacked DMRs, my survival chances have been better.
> > > >
> > > > I think I understand what you are trying to say.
> > > > So when you’re down 2 players, and it is 2v4, you want the other team to get all the DMRs on the map while they spawn kill you at medium range, where your AR can’t actually hit before they kill you.
> > > >
> > > > Right?
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > Fill me in, then. If you’re getting spawn killed, why would not having a DMR off-spawn help you at all?
>
> Because, in my experience, I am not usually getting spawn killed when there are AR starts. And as hard as it may be for you to believe, not everyone grabs a DMR when there are AR starts. In fact, it’s even possible to play on a map that has no DMR spawns (e.g., Renova).
I understand there are players that don’t use DMRs. Those players also purposely put themselves at a disadvantage. Why you wouldn’t use one when available is beyond me.
> Spawn with DMR and AR.
> Noobs can hit Y off spawn, and everyone is happy.
Its not about that, AR + Pistol spawns doesnt spawn you with a Perfect-shot uber weapon. AR starts make DMR’s more valuable, taking them off the ground and killing people using different weapons, in DMR’s you will always be facing an enemy with another DMR, in AR’s there exist’s a lot of variation