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> > > > Dude, stop spamming. We get it, you have bad aim and want the game to aim for you more, just please stop.
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> > > I would dog you in every halo stop that? You’re just another one of those people taht doesn’t understand halo next….
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> > You would dog me in every Halo because you need that MCC level aim assist otherwise you’re just another average player with no thumbs.
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> I would dog you in H5 and infinte too lol but it would just be more annoying and like a chore with a few exceptions of you probably killing that wouldn’t happen otherwise due to bad said “aim mechanics “ what don’t you get ???
Now now children, please stop fighting.
Claiming you are better at a game, doesn’t help your point come across well or coherently.
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> > > > > > > Dude, stop spamming. We get it, you have bad aim and want the game to aim for you more, just please stop.
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> > > > > > I would dog you in every halo stop that? You’re just another one of those people taht doesn’t understand halo next….
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> > > > > You would dog me in every Halo because you need that MCC level aim assist otherwise you’re just another average player with no thumbs.
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> > > > I would dog you in H5 and infinte too lol but it would just be more annoying and like a chore due to bad said “aim mechanics “ what don’t you get ???
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> > > You’re too funny. I take it English isn’t your first language.
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> > No once again you don’t understand halo and you’re also illogical trust me I know English very well and halo better than you beyond a doubt… also since now we’re bringing up things that aren’t related to halo I also know some Spanish considering I’m half Hispanic anything else you want to say that irrelevant to my topics at hand? Next
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Oh so you’re pejudice and judgmental towards certain ethnic groups…. All makes sense now also you’re assuming now that I’m half Hispanic I don’t know English very well English is my first language I won 5 spelling bees back in grade school and never got lower than an A on a spelling test not only that I won a speech meet once and not only that I have A very extensive vocabulary and your coming at me with a hasty general illogical, irrational standpoint go away… I’m done talking to you…
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> > > > > I would dog you in H5 and infinte too lol but it would just be more annoying and like a chore due to bad said “aim mechanics “ what don’t you get ???
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> > > No once again you don’t understand halo and you’re also illogical trust me I know English very well and halo better than you beyond a doubt… also since now we’re bringing up things that aren’t related to halo I also know some Spanish considering I’m half Hispanic anything else you want to say that irrelevant to my topics at hand? Next
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> Oh so you’re pejudice and judgmental towards certain ethnic groups…. All makes sense now also you’re assuming now that I’m half Hispanic I don’t know English very well English is my first language I won 5 spelling bees back in grade school and never got lower than an a on a spelling test not only that I won a speech meet once and not only that I have A very extensive vocabulary and your coming at me with a hasty general illogical, irrational standpoint go away… I’m done talking to you…
Where did I say any of that? You’re jumping to conclusions, but I will say you’re a bit of a fanatic.
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> I could care less if ads is in the game as long as it doesn’t make you more accurate. That was the fault i think that people had with h5 and that i had. It ruined the proper ranges of guns.
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> Yep, just waiting for the mods to shut this one down at this point. Take it to the DMs please fellas and let this topic die.
That’s fine but the aim topic doesn’t need to die it needs to be addressed it a HUGE issue end of story…
I found I became a lot cleaner in my gameplay the more I played (obviously). Personally I am really enjoying the feel and movement of H3 a lot at the moment, it feels really good in my hands (but that game is 14 years old) Infinite is easily a lot faster and sharper. I just need to spend more time with the game. That being said, I would be interested in trying out a build with slightly a higher reticule stickiness. Get me back in though, the game is unreal.
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> I’m tired of seeing oh the aim raises the skill gap posts. No it really doesn’t if you have a game that has good aim example H2/H3 and even H4 believe it or not probably some of the best crispy aim in the series…. This creates for a well balanced good experience across the board that’s why everyone and there mom goes back to MCC and it shows in the population between that and H5 which has very mediocre aim mechanics… through out all the games you can still have skill based aim no matter what game you’re playing on but the question comes down to do I want to have good aim on a bad aiming game or a good aiming game ? Currently right now infinite is in the bad aiming camp just like H5 and that’s an undisputable fact… and this is contradictory on how skilled you are when it comes to aiming in particular.
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> A similar analogy would be if you were to decrease the diameter of a basketball hoop now it’s harder to have the ball go through the hoop but everyone is still on the same playing field shooting through the same hoop in this instance it’s just a game with bad aiming mechanics where everyone is struggling with aim like the hoop mentioned…. I would rather be playing on an original default hoop that akin to the likes of HCE-H4 with the exclusion of H5 and infinte as it currently stands… why? Simply because the original titles got butter smooth aim and H5 and infinite do not and there is no debate on that…
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> Oh so now you’re justifying bad aim mechanics with this is how infinite should feel as a game ,??
Where was in the post was I justifying anything? I was talking about those other two in the post arguing.
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> I just know H5’s aim is -Yoink- and I don’t enjoy playing it. MCC’s aim is super crisp and I love it.
> Infinite’s sort of a meh to be frank.
The reason why MCC’s aim “feels” super crisp is because the AA in those games are so beyond strong, if people want infinite to be like that fine but I’m telling you now the game will fail as a competitive esports and fade away into obscurity.
Regardless of mnk or controller landing shots that should never hit because the crosshair isn’t even on the person is a fundamentally flawed shooter
I don’t disagree that aiming needs work, but please stop spamming this thread with complaints about the aim assist with such an overdramatic, doom ridden attitude. The aiming needs work, at minimum the glitches effecting aim assist need to be fixed, but you’re not giving yourself credibility and you aren’t engaging in any kind of active discussion now.
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> The reason why MCC’s aim “feels” super crisp is because the AA in those games are so beyond strong, if people want infinite to be like that fine but I’m telling you now the game will fail as a competitive esports and fade away into obscurity.
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> Regardless of mnk or controller landing shots that should never hit because the crosshair isn’t even on the person is a fundamentally flawed shooter
I don’t quite see this argument, Halo 3 had the strongest bullet magnetism and was arguably the peak for competitive Halo. Halo 5 also had a competitive scene, and it too had quite a lot of aim assist and bullet magnetism. But more importantly than that, the competitive audience is far smaller than the ‘casual’ audience. It’s great to foster a competitive scene, but not at the expense of the new users entirely. The two things can co-exist, especially because ranked gameplay will matchmake based on input type. Balance between M&K and controller will only be relevant in social, where competitive balance isn’t as important and E-sports, which itself relies on the game being popular enough to garner an audience. If aiming and shooting isn’t fun for new players the game will die a death anyway, and the competitive scene will never take off.
The main reason why I prefer this aiming system over previous titles… When I am in a gun fight an another enemy walks near my targeted opponent the magnetism doesn’t just lock my reticle on the new threat… ! This is a huge improvement thanks…
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> Regardless of mnk or controller landing shots that should never hit because the crosshair isn’t even on the person is a fundamentally flawed shooter
Crisp doesn’t mean super strong. I want aiming to feel good. Having super strong aim assist doesn’t necessarily feel good.
Man people are really clowning in this thread. Where in the post did I say “I want super strong aim assist?” Huh? Where? Point to it.
Now, for real. the aim assist in H3 and H2 (havent player H4 in years) is awful: its helps too much and, in a hight ttk game, pretty much makes the game for you. Yes MnK will have the advantage but it is beacuse it is naturally a better place to play shooter. Valve tied to change that but failed. Making the game play for you it is not the solution.
You guys will have to do what many MnK players do and try different sensibilities until we get one that is confortable and let us aim good.
Opinions are like rear ends. Everyone has one and they all stink. If you’re tired of seeing the posts, stop reading em. There are countless other posts to read and make real contributions to. Also, just a little reminder, Halo Infinite is in the Tech Flight stages. 343 is looking for feedback on everything and clearly skill gaps and aim assist is a big one. Its constructive feedback for 343 Industries.
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> I don’t quite see this argument, Halo 3 had the strongest bullet magnetism and was arguably the peak for competitive Halo. Halo 5 also had a competitive scene, and it too had quite a lot of aim assist and bullet magnetism. But more importantly than that, the competitive audience is far smaller than the ‘casual’ audience. It’s great to foster a competitive scene, but not at the expense of the new users entirely. The two things can co-exist, especially because ranked gameplay will matchmake based on input type. Balance between M&K and controller will only be relevant in social, where competitive balance isn’t as important and E-sports, which itself relies on the game being popular enough to garner an audience. If aiming and shooting isn’t fun for new players the game will die a death anyway, and the competitive scene will never take off.
Halo 3 came out in 2007 which was the PEAK of console gaming in terms of popularity but it’s no longer 2007 and most of the competitive player base is on PC and it’s incredibly important to not jade that community like they did with the mcc.
the two solutions for HCS and pro play are to one turn off Aim assist or two the better option sperate the leagues into MnK and Controller since giving one input a sanctioned aimbot hurts the competitive integrity of the game especially when money is on the line. However 343 will defiantly not be changing anything and let it be Duo input since if they were to sperate the leagues the controller pro scene with die like R6’s since people would rather go watch the version that takes more skill instead of 10 aim gods using aimbots against each other.