> and I know people of similar or same skill will be put into a game with me
No, you don’t.
> > and I know people of similar or same skill will be put into a game with me
>
> No, you don’t.
if that is the way the game is programmed then yes it will, and if there is any glitches or bugs that prevent this, 343i will more than likely patch them.
> So now a casual player can make fun of me for not being the highest level because I don’t play as much as them? Even though I’m better and have a higher rank in the skill department? Sounds like a one sided idea to the casual community to draw away from people caring about competitiveness, and more similar to how little league gives trophies to everyone even if they don’t win. You can do it Lil Slugger! You might not be the best but you can still get to the same rank as the best as everyone ranks up just for playing!
the worst I’ve ever heard a casual player say is that its just a game… I’ve never been insulted for being competitive. and if worst comes to worst you can just 1v1 him and prove that you are better. Its’s not that big a deal
Ok half of these replys don’t even make sense and I lost understanding of what this thread was actually about.
However I don’t care if the “invisible ranking system” gets implemented or not. It’ll just a way to avoid people flaming others about their low rank in Halo 4. Remember how much low ranks were flaming for not being good and saying their opinions don’t matter because theyre bad on Bnet? Waypoint doesn’t need to turn into Bnet. We have enough trolls and people who flame as it is.
> Ok half of these replys don’t even make sense and I lost understanding of what this thread was actually about.
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> However I don’t care if the “invisible ranking system” gets implemented or not. It’ll just a way to avoid people flaming others about their low rank in Halo 4. Remember how much low ranks were flaming for not being good and saying their opinions don’t matter because theyre bad on Bnet? Waypoint doesn’t need to turn into Bnet. We have enough trolls and people who flame as it is.
read the OP and you will see the point of the thread. A lot of the replies were people trying to counter my argument.
343i has confirmed NOTHING AT THIS POINT .
ALTHOUGH I would greatly prefer EVERYONES RANK TO BE VISIBLE
Maybe having it as an option TO HIDE RANK or SHOW RANK
That way its up to them players .
> > > and I know people of similar or same skill will be put into a game with me
> >
> > No, you don’t.
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> if that is the way the game is programmed then yes it will, and if there is any glitches or bugs that prevent this, 343i will more than likely patch them.
Just like they Fixed Reach’s Matching System …
We can’t tell at this point how or if it will work
We can only hope .
> 343i has confirmed NOTHING AT THIS POINT .
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> ALTHOUGH I would greatly prefer EVERYONES RANK TO BE VISIBLE
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> Maybe having it as an option TO HIDE RANK or SHOW RANK
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> That way its up to them players .
Actually, there was an info blowout, where the ranking system was talked about.
There will essentially be two systems, an actual ranking system (skill) and an experience system that operates similar to Reach. These ranks will be hidden to all but yourself, but the skill-based system does effect matchmaking matches.
So, if you don’t care about your skill, and don’t want to be flamed because of a low rank or something, you don’t have to care.
People that do care about the skill will have their skill-based system, but they can’t see other ranks. You’ll still be matched up by skill. The only thing a visible ranking system gave was bragging rights… and bragging rights aren’t needed.
And if they gave an option to show/hide rank, people would rarely hide their rank because people would flame them for hiding it and say they’re bad and are afraid to show their rank. It wouldn’t help any. Hidden ranks would just be more efficient.
So where is the source about this invisible rank stuff? Also, are we talking about TrueSkill like being a 50 in Halo 3 or we talking about the military ranks?
> > 343i has confirmed NOTHING AT THIS POINT .
> >
> > ALTHOUGH I would greatly prefer EVERYONES RANK TO BE VISIBLE
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> > Maybe having it as an option TO HIDE RANK or SHOW RANK
> >
> > That way its up to them players .
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> Actually, there was an info blowout, where the ranking system was talked about.
>
> There will essentially be two systems, an actual ranking system (skill) and an experience system that operates similar to Reach. These ranks will be hidden to all but yourself, but the skill-based system does effect matchmaking matches.
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> So, if you don’t care about your skill, and don’t want to be flamed because of a low rank or something, you don’t have to care.
> People that do care about the skill will have their skill-based system, but they can’t see other ranks. You’ll still be matched up by skill. The only thing a visible ranking system gave was bragging rights… and bragging rights aren’t needed.
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> And if they gave an option to show/hide rank, people would rarely hide their rank because people would flame them for hiding it and say they’re bad and are afraid to show their rank. It wouldn’t help any. Hidden ranks would just be more efficient.
343i has confirmed 2 styles of ranking systems in Halo 4
343i has not confirmed a HIDDEN RANKING SYSTEMS THAT ONLY YOU CAN SEE ,-- if im wrong please show links
> I would agree if I felt that Reach’s invisible rank put me in fair games ever.
> > > 343i has confirmed NOTHING AT THIS POINT .
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> > > ALTHOUGH I would greatly prefer EVERYONES RANK TO BE VISIBLE
> > >
> > > Maybe having it as an option TO HIDE RANK or SHOW RANK
> > >
> > > That way its up to them players .
> >
> > Actually, there was an info blowout, where the ranking system was talked about.
> >
> > There will essentially be two systems, an actual ranking system (skill) and an experience system that operates similar to Reach. These ranks will be hidden to all but yourself, but the skill-based system does effect matchmaking matches.
> >
> > So, if you don’t care about your skill, and don’t want to be flamed because of a low rank or something, you don’t have to care.
> > People that do care about the skill will have their skill-based system, but they can’t see other ranks. You’ll still be matched up by skill. The only thing a visible ranking system gave was bragging rights… and bragging rights aren’t needed.
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> >
> >
> > And if they gave an option to show/hide rank, people would rarely hide their rank because people would flame them for hiding it and say they’re bad and are afraid to show their rank. It wouldn’t help any. Hidden ranks would just be more efficient.
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> 343i has confirmed 2 styles of ranking systems in Halo 4
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> 343i has not confirmed a HIDDEN RANKING SYSTEMS THAT ONLY YOU CAN SEE ,-- if im wrong please show links
Hmm… I just went through the stuff again, and while Frankei did say it, he said it was a current idea they’re testing. So not confirmed final, but the current idea.
It can actually help stop people from flaming others due to ranks, and help decrease boosting. If you can’t see the ranks, there is no reason to boost. If you can’t see the ranks, there is no logic in trying to flame.
The OP is idiotic. Until 343i confirms that ranks are hidden, this is all speculation end of story.
we need a legit ranking system
> The OP is idiotic. Until 343i confirms that ranks are hidden, this is all speculation end of story.
did I ever claim it to be official? I am just posting my observations. and people are content with calling it a hidden system so I was calling it by what people are already accepting it as. And I am not an idiot. I have made quite a few forums and all of them got more support than not, for the simple reason that I think out what I am saying and present it in a simple easy to understand manner and everyone understands what I am trying to say.
> we need a legit ranking system
agreed
> > > > 343i has confirmed NOTHING AT THIS POINT .
> > > >
> > > > ALTHOUGH I would greatly prefer EVERYONES RANK TO BE VISIBLE
> > > >
> > > > Maybe having it as an option TO HIDE RANK or SHOW RANK
> > > >
> > > > That way its up to them players .
> > >
> > > Actually, there was an info blowout, where the ranking system was talked about.
> > >
> > > There will essentially be two systems, an actual ranking system (skill) and an experience system that operates similar to Reach. These ranks will be hidden to all but yourself, but the skill-based system does effect matchmaking matches.
> > >
> > > So, if you don’t care about your skill, and don’t want to be flamed because of a low rank or something, you don’t have to care.
> > > People that do care about the skill will have their skill-based system, but they can’t see other ranks. You’ll still be matched up by skill. The only thing a visible ranking system gave was bragging rights… and bragging rights aren’t needed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And if they gave an option to show/hide rank, people would rarely hide their rank because people would flame them for hiding it and say they’re bad and are afraid to show their rank. It wouldn’t help any. Hidden ranks would just be more efficient.
> >
> > 343i has confirmed 2 styles of ranking systems in Halo 4
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> >
> > 343i has not confirmed a HIDDEN RANKING SYSTEMS THAT ONLY YOU CAN SEE ,-- if im wrong please show links
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> Hmm… I just went through the stuff again, and while Frankei did say it, he said it was a current idea they’re testing. So not confirmed final, but the current idea.
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> It can actually help stop people from flaming others due to ranks, and help decrease boosting. If you can’t see the ranks, there is no reason to boost. If you can’t see the ranks, there is no logic in trying to flame.
So im right it has not be confirmed BY anyone at 343i IT WAS SAID IN by someone at 343i they are looking in to MANY KINDS IF RANKING SYSTEMS
And having a HIDDEN RANK THAT ONLY YOU CAN SEE SOUNDS TERRIBLE and I don’t want to think about it being implemented into Halo 4
Only time will tell what they use .
The game is coming out November 6th. 343i does not have to finalize a ranking system right now, they are most likely just testing different ones out.
let’s just be glad that we will actually have a ranking system.
I would like ranks visible as encouragement to keep pushing myself to get better like in Halo 3. Come on, don’t act like you didn’t enjoy seeing that number go up a point after stepping up your game 
> The game is coming out November 6th. 343i does not have to finalize a ranking system right now, they are most likely just testing different ones out.
> let’s just be glad that we will actually have a ranking system.
True im, sure they are trying out many different styles
I just hope what ever they use is PERFECT although I understand it wont be perfect