Simple, easy way to add duel wielding

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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Make a weapon set be two weapons that you have to duel wield. This means that you cannot drop one weapon and use the other. A set of two duel weapons (when spawned together as a duel set) should only allowed to be duel wielded).

This is not saying that a duel like an SMG or plasma rifle can’t be used by itself. It just has to spawn as a seperate, single weapon for that to work.

Now let’s talk about how dueling could work. I think that because it is so badass, they should be power weapons that people fight over. This means that there should only be one or maybe two duel sets on the map that people fight over and are notified when they are about to spawn.

Here is a cool idea for how duel wielding can be used. You can’t switch weapons without dropping both and you can’t throw grenades.

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With duel wielding, you do a ton of damage to anybody you shoot at. It should kill faster than the AR and SMG at close range.

Here is another cool feature. Make it so that the right trigger fires both weapons but if you use the left trigger, either the left or right weapon automatically aims at a second enemy that is within the field of view and within a certain range.

Damage is reduced when aiming at two people but it should still be like shooting a single SMG at both people in terms of damage.

Since one weapon would be autoaimed, the damage done to the second person within the field of view should be based on the damage done to the first person and by adding in the factor of range (the farther away anyone is, the less damage they will take). This also means that any bullets you miss when shooting at the first person will also miss the second person.

I could imagine just walking into a room and facing two people who have their backs to me and toasting both of them relatively quickly.

It won’t be that OP since it is a power weapon, there will be limited ammo, lack of being able to switch weapons, and if two people shoot at you at the same time, you’ll die before you could kill both of them.

It is something that has never been done before in an FPS but it could be really cool.

What do you think?

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> Now let’s talk about how dueling could work. I think that because it is so badass, they should be power weapons that people fight over. This means that there should only be one or maybe two duel sets on the map that people fight over and are notified when they are about to spawn.

… Nobody will fight over duel wielding. No decent players ever had a reason to duel wield. You say it won’t be OP since it is a power weapon… What is “it”? Double SMGs? Double PP’s? People say they miss duel wielding yet I never ever see a single person duel wield in Halo 2A, or even Halo 2 and 3.

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I miss dual wielding, but I only used it in campaign. There’s a certain excitement that only unloading two clips of dual SMG in a grunt’s face can conjure. (stares whimsically into the distance)

I suppose people like the option that it is there (feels like freedom, more ways to play?). I don’t like the idea of having the weapons completely linked together as though they were one weapon, or the auto-targeting system (it’s not a bad idea, but I’m not sure how well it would work overall).

What I would do to dual-wielding:

make the dual weapons “linked” so when you press Y to switch, you don’t just drop one of the guns, but put them both away. That way you could switch between dual SMGs for close combat and the BR for a distance strike.

Ability to toggle dual-single wield: the D-pad could be used for this. When you dual-wield, the right hand would be the main gun, and left would be secondary. When you press down on the D-pad, the secondary gun would get holstered, allowing you to use your grenades and Smart Scope with the main gun. Press down again to pull out the secondary gun. Or keep it holstered and enjoy the extra ammo for your one gun.

Ability to melee while dual-wielding. Seriously, just because you have a pistol in each hand doesn’t mean you can’t pistol whip a spartan…

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> > Now let’s talk about how dueling could work. I think that because it is so badass, they should be power weapons that people fight over. This means that there should only be one or maybe two duel sets on the map that people fight over and are notified when they are about to spawn.
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> … Nobody will fight over duel wielding. No decent players ever had a reason to duel wield. You say it won’t be OP since it is a power weapon… What is “it”? Double SMGs? Double PP’s? People say they miss duel wielding yet I never ever see a single person duel wield in Halo 2A, or even Halo 2 and 3.

I miss dual-wielding for the dumb, casual encounters and for the Campaign/Firefight/Spartan Ops. It was fun in those kinds of contexts (unfortunately we’ve never experienced it for Firefight or Spartan Ops, though) and I do still use it often myself, to this day. You wouldn’t see me march into a Ranked playlist and try to dual wield my SMGs to victory in that kind of a competitive setting. But you could absolutely see me mowing down Grunts in the Campaign on Normal mode just for fun. Or even going into a Social playlist and dual wielding those SMGs, just for fun.

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I just don’t see 343i wasting resources on doing this… idk. just doesn’t seem “productive”

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> I just don’t see 343i wasting resources on doing this… idk. just doesn’t seem “productive”

It seems easy enough to do, but I’m no computer programmer…

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> > Now let’s talk about how dueling could work. I think that because it is so badass, they should be power weapons that people fight over. This means that there should only be one or maybe two duel sets on the map that people fight over and are notified when they are about to spawn.
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> … Nobody will fight over duel wielding. No decent players ever had a reason to duel wield. You say it won’t be OP since it is a power weapon… What is “it”? Double SMGs? Double PP’s? People say they miss duel wielding yet I never ever see a single person duel wield in Halo 2A, or even Halo 2 and 3.

I loved dual-weilding in Halo 2 when I didn’t have a BR.

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No.

Making duel wield weapons linked as one weapon is pointless. The best part of duel wielding was being able to mix and match different combinations of weapons together. If it’s treated as one weapon, it isn’t really duel wielding in the first place.

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> > Now let’s talk about how dueling could work. I think that because it is so badass, they should be power weapons that people fight over. This means that there should only be one or maybe two duel sets on the map that people fight over and are notified when they are about to spawn.
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> … Nobody will fight over duel wielding. No decent players ever had a reason to duel wield. You say it won’t be OP since it is a power weapon… What is “it”? Double SMGs? Double PP’s? People say they miss duel wielding yet I never ever see a single person duel wield in Halo 2A, or even Halo 2 and 3.

all i need is a grenade and a BR DMR or carbine for the quick headshot. dual wielding was only good with smgs+plasma rifles or pp+ smg. and id only pick those up in a dire situation

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> > Now let’s talk about how dueling could work. I think that because it is so badass, they should be power weapons that people fight over. This means that there should only be one or maybe two duel sets on the map that people fight over and are notified when they are about to spawn.
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> … Nobody will fight over duel wielding. No decent players ever had a reason to duel wield. You say it won’t be OP since it is a power weapon… What is “it”? Double SMGs? Double PP’s? People say they miss duel wielding yet I never ever see a single person duel wield in Halo 2A, or even Halo 2 and 3.

I dual wield all the time outside of multiplayer. The only campaign mission I replay all the time is Cairo Station because SPRAY ALL THE BULLETS.

But in MP…nah, it’s generally not my style since I stick to mid/long range as much as possible.

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That’s essentially just a re-skinned single-wield weapon in functionality. I’d rather have something more unique. If duel-wielding can’t be perfected I’d rather not have it. Here’s my idea:

No weapon gets a nerf to encourage dual-wielding. Every weapon is as strong as it should be by itself. When dual-wielding, the reticle becomes bigger, decreasing accuracy, and smart-scope is disabled. If using LT for smart-scope, that is replaced with the left weapon’s fire. Reload speed is increased significantly as well.

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> > Now let’s talk about how dueling could work. I think that because it is so badass, they should be power weapons that people fight over. This means that there should only be one or maybe two duel sets on the map that people fight over and are notified when they are about to spawn.
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> … Nobody will fight over duel wielding. No decent players ever had a reason to duel wield. You say it won’t be OP since it is a power weapon… What is “it”? Double SMGs? Double PP’s? People say they miss duel wielding yet I never ever see a single person duel wield in Halo 2A, or even Halo 2 and 3.

That’s because duel wielding was underpowered for the most part in Halo 2 and 3 (especially Halo 3).

Sure the SMG/PP combo was alright but I’m talking about a serious buff to the duels this time.

Like duel pistols, if linked, could kill extremely fast due to it being like two people with pistols shooting at someone the same time.

Thats why it should be a power weapon.

And yeah, I know people liked to mix and match the combos but I think having duel SMGs, duel pistols, and duel plasma rifles as 3 power weapons would allow for better balance.

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Bad, I’m glad it’s gone personally. Good riddance.

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> That’s essentially just a re-skinned single-wield weapon in functionality. I’d rather have something more unique. If duel-wielding can’t be perfected I’d rather not have it. Here’s my idea:
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> No weapon gets a nerf to encourage dual-wielding. Every weapon is as strong as it should be by itself. When dual-wielding, the reticle becomes bigger, decreasing accuracy, and smart-scope is disabled. If using LT for smart-scope, that is replaced with the left weapon’s fire. Reload speed is increased significantly as well.

Well maybe we could keep dual wielding the same as Halo 2. It was just pointless in Halo 2 and 3 because duels really weren’t powerful. I think they should be extremely powerful but the only way that would work is if they are power weapons.

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Honestly I feel dual wielding should return, it makes Halo alot more fun.