I know I’m not the only one pissed about this. I keep running into spartan companies in BTB, and I’m tired of getting farmed.
Yesterday my friend and I got big time massacred (not the first time) by the Inheritor’s Descendants (congratulations to you guys, y’all beat us reaaaalll bad). How bad? Well, it was a CTF game, and they scored two flags then farmed us for kills. All in all, I counted up their kills and our kills. They had 202 kills and we had FOUR.
In my most humble opinion, they should add something that matches up big parties against other big parties. That way, we noobs-I mean all us non-competitive gamers don’t get absolutely demolished,
Yes it has been a bigger problem since Warzone was decreased to 6 players, and your not the only one frustrated with the situation. For future reference calling out people is not allowed on the forums. You can read the forums rules here.
It happens and when your on the side doing the farming or winning after dragging the game out longer then it has to be is never a problem
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> Yes it has been a bigger problem since Warzone was decreased to 6 players, and your not the only one frustrated with the situation. For future reference calling out people is not allowed on the forums. You can read the forums rules here.
I wasn’t really calling out, it was more of complementing then using as an example. I gotcha though.
I’m as annoyed as anyone by what full fireteams do to gameplay. If pitted against a team of solo players then the match is pretty much ruined. But that’s not the fault of the fireteam. Acknowledging that fireteams is what this entire game is designed around, and that teamwork is now, as it has always been, the primary focus of competitive Halo, then you have to look a little deeper for the real problem. Low population is culprit number one, but there’s no point in crying over it since it’s a factor that matchmaking can’t control. 343 is currently looking into a mechanism that would match full teams to solos of higher rank than the fireteam average. I don’t know when, or even if, they’ll actually go ahead with this experiment. I don’t know whether it will be applied only to Warzone, or if it will be used throughout multiplayer. There are plenty of unanswered questions, but expect the answers to come over the next few months.
Ah but see… That’s the risk you run when playing social playlists. I knew before social was even added there would be people complaining about it. Social doesn’t mean “scrubs only” it means NO RANK.
Its difficult because as a a solo search player you take that risk in any team playlist.
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> Ah but see… That’s the risk you run when playing social playlists. I knew before social was even added there would be people complaining about it. Social doesn’t mean “scrubs only” it means NO RANK.
Heck, even ranked has some rediculous blowouts too…
While I understand the frustration of going up against fireteams in BTB (I usually solo queue as well), reducing fireteams even more than when they were cut in half for Warzone just makes spartan companies more pointless and less fun. The whole point is to play with a bunch of your friends all on a team together, but people keep complaining about losing to these teams. I think the only good fix for this issue in BTB is to allow full fireteams into Warzone again. Then, the large squads will move back to that for the most part, but people will complain about that too. Most matches I don’t go up against full teams in BTB or even groups larger than 3-4, so it doesn’t really seem to be as big of an issue as some people would suggest. My advice is to keep your search preference on focused, and if it’s still really that bad then join an active spartan company and play with a group yourself.
Like I said, I usually play solo in BTB and I don’t have much of a problem with large teams so I think reducing the fireteam size in BTB would just hurt Halo 5 overall.
It’s fun tho, playing with a full team of 8. Maybe get your own team of 8 and you’ll enjoy BTB more?
Encountered in just about every online game I’ve ever played. Somewhat exacerbated in this title in Warzone due to the Req reward system - Phaeton, Banshees, Tanks, Mantis. I’ve taken to not respawning and indeed quitting out of matches and doing something else with my life. One of the risks of going solo and hence why I defer to playing FFA.
Look man theres only 1 way to enjoy BTB or WZ when solo queuing, set yourself a kill goal of 25-30 kills and no more than 10 deaths. its all i do now, F*** the win gimme some kills!!
I am not going to complain about this because I have beat several Spartan Companies badly without being partied up. I mostly play solo queue. My company occasionally runs together but not very often and yes since the Warzone roster size changed it has increased the likelihood of playing more full companies but doesn’t mean you can’t get the W all in all its a social playlist and everyone has fair rights to play how they want regardless 
but I understand the frustration.
I honestly got to the point of not caring anymore. this has been an issue for a while and we might not see a solution anytime soon. BTB is a social playlist so you can expect all kinds of chaos including in warzone. Before the party restriction to 6 on warzone, i used to face a full 12 man fireteam and we still managed to wreck them with no problem. Running solo can be frustrating but that doesnt mean you can’t do call outs or push your team on your own. As for warzone you can do objectives on your own such as capturing a base farther of the enemy or getting bosses on your own for points. This also applies for BTB, getting a flag on your own and or getting the most kills to lead your team for victory. Not all matches are frustrating because of full teams, some teams are actually really bad.
Hey stuff like that wouldn’t happen if 343 didn’t decide to send their brains on a vacation and lower the fireteam limit for Warzone and Warzone Assault. All they gotta do is put the fireteam limit back to 12 for Warzone and Warzone Assault and the Spartan Companies will leave BTB and migrate back to Warzone. You gotta understand the main reason why the Spartan Companies moved on to BTB is because it’s the last playlist in Halo 5 where you can play with a lot of your friends and in a full team. With Warzone now capped at 6 people, we now have to carry 6 people and 99.9% of the time, they suck balls and we end up losing games. But with BTB, we can play in full teams and have full on communication and will no longer have to worry about carrying trash randoms.
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> I know I’m not the only one pissed about this. I keep running into spartan companies in BTB, and I’m tired of getting farmed.
> Yesterday my friend and I got big time massacred (not the first time) by the Inheritor’s Descendants (congratulations to you guys, y’all beat us reaaaalll bad). How bad? Well, it was a CTF game, and they scored two flags then farmed us for kills. All in all, I counted up their kills and our kills. They had 202 kills and we had FOUR.
> In my most humble opinion, they should add something that matches up big parties against other big parties. That way, we noobs-I mean all us non-competitive gamers don’t get absolutely demolished,
Totally agree. There should be a 4 player fire team cap in BTB. If you have more players in a fire team go play WZ (6 players) or customs. Skirmish should also have a player cap - if you have 4 players go play ranked or BTB.
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> > I know I’m not the only one pissed about this. I keep running into spartan companies in BTB, and I’m tired of getting farmed.
> > Yesterday my friend and I got big time massacred (not the first time) by the Inheritor’s Descendants (congratulations to you guys, y’all beat us reaaaalll bad). How bad? Well, it was a CTF game, and they scored two flags then farmed us for kills. All in all, I counted up their kills and our kills. They had 202 kills and we had FOUR.
> > In my most humble opinion, they should add something that matches up big parties against other big parties. That way, we noobs-I mean all us non-competitive gamers don’t get absolutely demolished,
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> Totally agree. There should be a 4 player fire team cap in BTB. If you have more players in a fire team go play WZ (6 players) or customs. Skirmish should also have a player cap - if you have 4 players go play ranked or BTB.
Worst Idea Ever.
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> All they gotta do is put the fireteam limit back to 12 for Warzone and Warzone Assault and the Spartan Companies will leave BTB and migrate back to Warzone.
There were regular BTB full parties long before that WZ cap was implemented, but I do agree that more parties are playing BTB now because of it.
One solution is giving us a solo playlist, but that will never happen because of the population and because it’s a social playlist where 343 hardly gives any craps about. There were changes in Warzone because it’s 343’s cash cow.
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> > I know I’m not the only one pissed about this. I keep running into spartan companies in BTB, and I’m tired of getting farmed.
> > Yesterday my friend and I got big time massacred (not the first time) by the Inheritor’s Descendants (congratulations to you guys, y’all beat us reaaaalll bad). How bad? Well, it was a CTF game, and they scored two flags then farmed us for kills. All in all, I counted up their kills and our kills. They had 202 kills and we had FOUR.
> > In my most humble opinion, they should add something that matches up big parties against other big parties. That way, we noobs-I mean all us non-competitive gamers don’t get absolutely demolished,
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> Totally agree. There should be a 4 player fire team cap in BTB. If you have more players in a fire team go play WZ (6 players) or customs. Skirmish should also have a player cap - if you have 4 players go play ranked or BTB.
I agree, I think they should do that, plus consider raising the WZ cap to 8, since in WZ if you’re getting wrecked you can do something about it and call something.
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> > > 2535440693312185;1:
> > > I know I’m not the only one pissed about this. I keep running into spartan companies in BTB, and I’m tired of getting farmed.
> > > Yesterday my friend and I got big time massacred (not the first time) by the Inheritor’s Descendants (congratulations to you guys, y’all beat us reaaaalll bad). How bad? Well, it was a CTF game, and they scored two flags then farmed us for kills. All in all, I counted up their kills and our kills. They had 202 kills and we had FOUR.
> > > In my most humble opinion, they should add something that matches up big parties against other big parties. That way, we noobs-I mean all us non-competitive gamers don’t get absolutely demolished,
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> > Totally agree. There should be a 4 player fire team cap in BTB. If you have more players in a fire team go play WZ (6 players) or customs. Skirmish should also have a player cap - if you have 4 players go play ranked or BTB.
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> I agree, I think they should do that, plus consider raising the WZ cap to 8, since in WZ if you’re getting wrecked you can do something about it and call something.
Yea sure, why not cap Doubles to 1 player per fireteam as well, it so hard to solo queue against 2 players working together…
BTB has always been 8 v 8, your a idiot if you think it should be capped, WZ is understandable, facing 12 fully communicating player is too hard and having it capped at 8 would make sense but we got 6. So what 8 man fireteams going to do in customs if they capped it to 6? just invite other spartan companies in hopes that they join or have enough players? End of the day its in the name **BIG TEAM BATTLE its designed for more than a 4 man fireteam.**If your solo queuing you take that risk, either deal with by going in with a fireteam or dont play and stick to WZ or 4 v 4 gametypes and if you still cant deal with that play FFA, there is absolutely no reason to cap fireteams for BTB.