Shower thought: Locke should have worn Recon

343 wanted to replace Chief (or perhaps the Arbiter?) with a new character you play as in Halo 5, and he came across as rather bland. He didn’t tell jokes, give rousing speeches, act like any more of a badass than any other man with a gun, and he didn’t even look all that iconic. The problem with Halo 5’s armour is its plastic, glossed and smooth look. It makes all the armours look the same, and the Hunter armour is no exception. The Mark V/VI/VIG2 armour of the Master Chief is iconic, but a kind of bubble-shaped grey helmet with a thin blue visor that’s reminiscent of a lovechild between Cyclops from X-Men and Daft Punk? Pass.

Now, what is arguably the most talked about armour in Halo? Recon. It was basically a piece of pop culture from 2007-2010. I think now that Recon has been made into just another piece of armour, but still holds that sense of the Halo identity from its Halo 3 days, that it would have made sense for Locke to wear this. What better way to make the character likeable to the community than having him armoured up in the ‘community armour’? Better writing, you say? nonsense! I kid, but I do think Locke in Recon armour would have been a great opportunity for 343 to connect with the fans and give Locke an unmistakable “Halo” identity.

Update: Guess I’ll specify that I never said “Get rid of the Hunter armour”. What I did say is that the Recon armour from the start, not compared to Hunter armour in terms of aesthetics, would have made Locke a more appealing character due to the popularity of Recon. This is about pre-release advertising. Sorry that I think that Locke’s helmet isn’t that great, but that’s not relevant to the topic.

Come on man, Locke’s helmet is the coolest part of his character.

As cool as Recon may be, it doesn’t seem to fit Locke’s character that much. Let him have his Hunter armor.

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> Come on man, Locke’s helmet is the coolest part of his character.

I thought the hinted ONI spook stuff that we don’t see outside of the expanded lore was his biggest winning attribute. I’d like to have seen more of that in game. Like him dealing with his morality and calling on his past experience as a spy/assassin.

Recon is too cool for Locke. Let him keep his hunter armour.

If Locke had recon armour, then we would likely not have the hunter armour. So despite the ‘blandness’ of lockes character would you really want to trade hunter for recon when most people play multiplayer more than the story?

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> If Locke had recon armour, then we would likely not have the hunter armour. So despite the ‘blandness’ of lockes character would you really want to trade hunter for recon when most people play multiplayer more than the story?

Yes? Halo’s identity has always come from its campaign. I really doubt that replacing the Hunter armour with Recon would have hurt the game, especially the multiplayer. Are you suggesting that this would hurt the multiplayer… by not having Hunter armour?

Also, this wouldn’t erase Hunter armour. Locke just wouldn’t wear it. 244 other armour sets are still in the game despite a campaign Spartan not wearing them.

Yeah, the Hunter armor is so cool. I rather keep it.

EDIT: Misread, disregard.

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> > If Locke had recon armour, then we would likely not have the hunter armour. So despite the ‘blandness’ of lockes character would you really want to trade hunter for recon when most people play multiplayer more than the story?
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> Yes? Halo’s identity has always come from its campaign. I really doubt that replacing the Hunter armour with Recon would have hurt the game, especially the multiplayer. Are you suggesting that this would hurt the multiplayer… by not having Hunter armour?
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> Also, this wouldn’t erase Hunter armour. Locke just wouldn’t wear it. 244 other armour sets are still in the game despite a campaign Spartan not wearing them.

I guess you’re right. Armour won’t change anything

This is probably going to get hidden by the mods, but…

Shower thought: the AIs only joined Cortana’s cause because they played H4 and were expecting something a little more…undressed.

Nah I think hunter is pretty cool. And it fits with locke well.

I thought recon was going to be an ODST connection.

Dare was ONI she wore recon.
Locke is ONI he should too.

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> I thought recon was going to be an ODST connection.
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> Dare was ONI she wore recon.
> Locke is ONI he should too.

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> I thought recon was going to be an ODST connection.
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> Dare was ONI she wore recon.
> Locke is ONI he should too.

Well I was talking from purely a pre-launch commercialisation point of view, but it’s cool that it’d work at that level, too.

If locke had the Recon helmet I’d hate him a lot more.

Case closed? :wink:

Locke could’ve been so cool. He could’ve been like a crazy assassin or maybe someone who wants to forget their past work with ONI and drops hints about the horrible things he does and is seeking redemption or sick of taking orders and wants to do what he thinks is right.

Or or you know hey could just make him a black guy with no personality

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> Come on man, Locke’s helmet is the coolest part of his character.

lol

So you think about Locke in the shower…anyway on topic I like the Hunter armor.

Nah Locke suits Hunter, Recon would look weird on him oh…Speaking of Recon & a Campaign Character (Look between Halsey & Palmer)

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> 343 wanted to replace Chief (or perhaps the Arbiter?) with a new character you play as in Halo 5, and he came across as rather bland. He didn’t tell jokes, give rousing speeches, act like any more of a badass than any other man with a gun, and he didn’t even look all that iconic. The problem with Halo 5’s armour is its plastic, glossed and smooth look. It makes all the armours look the same, and the Hunter armour is no exception. The Mark V/VI/VIG2 armour of the Master Chief is iconic, but a kind of bubble-shaped grey helmet with a thin blue visor that’s reminiscent of a lovechild between Cyclops from X-Men and Daft Punk? Pass.
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> Now, what is arguably the most talked about armour in Halo? Recon. It was basically a piece of pop culture from 2007-2010. I think now that Recon has been made into just another piece of armour, but still holds that sense of the Halo identity from its Halo 3 days, that it would have made sense for Locke to wear this. What better way to make the character likeable to the community than having him armoured up in the ‘community armour’? Better writing, you say? nonsense! I kid, but I do think Locke in Recon armour would have been a great opportunity for 343 to connect with the fans and give Locke an unmistakable “Halo” identity.
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> Update: Guess I’ll specify that I never said “Get rid of the Hunter armour”. What I did say is that the Recon armour from the start, not compared to Hunter armour in terms of aesthetics, would have made Locke a more appealing character due to the popularity of Recon. Sorry that I think that Locke’s helmet isn’t that great, but that’s not relevant to the topic.

I respectfully disagree my good sir / madam. I think they needed a completely new character, with a completely new design concept to pull-in interest.

they achieve targeting halo fan followers with Buck wearing the iconic ODST helmet. Having 2 “repeat” / fan favorite helmet designs might have been too boring/repetitive for introducing a brand new fireteam/set of protagonists.

also, one of the H4 Spartan Ops characters was sporting recon, as well as DARE. Having Locke have that helmet also would have made it feel less exclusive, and made Locke seem like less of a BA mo-fo, as the cool kids say.

recon armor is also associated with a specific Spartan “class” or “role” so to speak. The “hunter” class fits Locke’s character better. He was a trained ONI assassin, a hunter. The hunter they needed to hunt the master chief.

but if they needed some reconnaissance on the master chief… then well… what a great fit recon would be :wink: