Show The Fury of Gravemind

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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You know, when i really think about it, my favorite character from the entire Halo series might just have to be Gravemind. Every word “he” spoke had so much power behind them and when we last heard him he didn’t sound happy at all.

Gravemind knew when he had to set aside his petty differences to do what must be done. He allied himself with MC and Thel twice, now you could say he was using them but isn’t that just what every alliance is?

Moving on Gravemind was really angry at the end of Halo 3 and I felt that. He seemed like the calm guy who knew no matter what he would win, but after blowing him apart at High Charity he wasn’t taking MC’s BS anymore and came at us with a fury and got Johnson killed.

So being immortal he’s not just going to forget that RAGE he’ll be snowballing his way back to destroy everything to get his revenge and this is something i want 343i to really show if we get any mentions with him from H5G or Halo MCC.

Since Halo is going down a darker path, i’m expecting Gravemind to be like every horror and revenge themed movie all in one MEGA space zombie blood rush. One thing that kind of makes me 343i want be doing it properly is who the Knights were in Halo 4. I really expected alot more from the Knights than teleporting and automatic shield regen. Even thought Throne said they were extremely dangerous was when they had Incineration Cannons.

The Flood needs to be extremely aggressive like they were in Halo CE but at the same time calculative. They pretty much beat all advance life 100,000 years ago because they weren’t just mindless zombies and at High Charity took on the biggest fleet the Covenant ever had. Even with a small infestation half of Africa was destroyed. Not sure if that was an exaggeration but that area won’t be supporting life anytime soon.

With some form of the flood returning soon i would just like to say please don’t make them like the nercomorphs. The current direction of the Halo universe is starting to fell a bit like Mass Effect. With Oni turning into Cerberus, Spartans turning into the N7, our hated allies Sangheili-Turian along with other alien resemblance, ancient threats slowly creeping up on us, blissful ignorance from the commander structure, not to mention 3 major characters voice actors.

(Halo had Keith David first but i’m still getting that Voice actor blend thing where its becoming hard to tell certain characters apart.)

This scene just says alot about the changes in the Halo universe, adding it in just because.

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Wasn’t it Guilty spark that killed Johnson?

3

Honestly I always find that cutscene proof that even when our supposed allies, humans and elites don’t really get along too well. Yes, there is hope for peace and cooperation, but its going to take a while before its not just there due to a common threat.

They respect chief personally for what he has done, but they don’t really have much respect for the human commander who’s commanded all those humans, including chief, to fight them for years.

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> Wasn’t it Guilty spark that killed Johnson?

Guilty Spark didn’t kill Johnson because he hated humanity. He killed him because Johnson was going to activate the ring to kill the Flood. If Gravemind didn’t put so much pressure on the situation waiting wouldn’t of been an issue.

If Palmer killed Halsey because Osman ordered her too is it her fault Halsey died? Palmer wouldn’t need to kill her if Osman didn’t give the order and Guilty Spark wouldn’t of had to kill Johnson if Gravemind wasn’t attacking the Control Room.

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> Honestly I always find that cutscene proof that even when our supposed allies, humans and elites don’t really get along too well. Yes, there is hope for peace and cooperation, but its going to take a while before its not just there due to a common threat.
>
> They respect chief personally for what he has done, but they don’t really have much respect for the human commander who’s commanded all those humans, including chief, to fight them for years.

Yeah, elites in Halo 3 seemed to show no i’ll will to MC. Sometimes when you get a crazy kill one will say “I’ll name my son after you.” Clearly Rtas had no room for Lord Hoods last stand, probably seeing it as him sending troops to die in a needless battle rather than keeping them safe or using them to attack the Ark where the solution is.

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I don’t think he should be furious, i think he should be laughing maniacally at the sight of Chief’s face when he lays his eyes upon the terrorfying monster he thought dead. Maybe even have Gravemind taunt him for it. Moving on…

> Guilty Spark didn’t kill Johnson because he hated humanity. He killed him because Johnson was going to activate the ring to kill the Flood. If Gravemind didn’t put so much pressure on the situation waiting wouldn’t of been an issue.

I’d say Guilty Spark was semi rampant at that point. I don’t think it had anything to do with the flood. Sure he wanted to prevent the rings premature activation, but before that, even though he was fully aware that it was not complete, he was happily willing to comply with Master Chief’s request to light it. That sudden change of mind only screams ‘rampancy’ to me.

> <mark>If Palmer killed Halsey because Osman ordered her too is it her fault Halsey died?</mark> Palmer wouldn’t need to kill her if Osman didn’t give the order and Guilty Spark wouldn’t of had to kill Johnson if Gravemind wasn’t attacking the Control Room.

Yes it most certainly is! Palmer only chose to follow that order on very selective circumstances. If she outright ignored Del Rio’s order to arrest Chief, but then jumps at the first opportunity to kill Halsey, it becomes hard to take her seriously with her “orders are orders” philosophy. She had formed biased reservations on Halsey, and so, did not think of twice about the repercussions of attempting to execute her. Of course that can be really blamed on the writing team, but the point still stands.

As for Guilty Spark, that still doesn’t add up. I say again, he didn’t kill Johnson because the Flood were coming too strong, otherwise he would have fired the ring right away. Instead he says “a premature firing would destroy the Ark!!” implying that his only intention was to keep his beloved ring safe. He had no intention of allowing its destruction again. He wanted the ring complete. Once again, it had nothing to do with the Gravemind.

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Scene Opens

SECRET ONI CONTAINMENT FACILITY: MIDNIGHT
STATUS: BREACHED

Arbiter: Agent Locke what is it… what do you see…

Locke: Nothing! Just dust and echoes… The message repeats…

Shipboard AI: QUARANTINE LOCK DOWN IN-EFFECT! Standby for confirmation…

Locke: Arbiter this place is abandoned… yet death lingers, it has a unknown odor about it…

Arbiter: Hmm… something is not right.

Locke: Arbiter lone-signal, could it be him?

Arbiter: Perhaps track it… see where it leads…

Locke: Very well… Um Arbiter its just a ghost-device… no user in sight? Strange.

Arbiter: How is this strange Agent Locke?

Locke: Usually are tracking devices are held INSIDE are neural-nets… our brains?

Arbiter: Something must be wrong… wait, movement… 360 degrees down the left hallway… quickly, its fast.

Unknown Voice: Help Me! No… NO… NO!!! Bottom floor bad… top floor good!

Locke: Who are you?! Explain yourself… are you ONI, UNSC or an Innie?! TALK NOW or I start shooting…

Unknown Voice: Okay… okay… my names, my names… um I can’t remember… I am, was, a prisoner aboard this ship…

Locke: What are you doing outside your cell? And where is the Prison watch?

Unknown Voice: I… I… don’t know but a man, a single man, cloaked and clad in armor… like you hahha… like you… except bigger, silent… more scary… and he had a gift… he called it a gift… hahaheheh

Locke: Arbiter did you hear all that…

Arbiter: Yes… it seems we are on the right trail. We must leave, before it gets cold.

Locke: Hold on… I got to tie up a loose end… (turns to prisoner) Thanks for the information… now goodbye… (draws handgun)

Unknown Voice: No… No… I am so outta here… (trips on empty elevator shaft) (grabs ledge)… oh -Yoink- man… -Yoink-…

Locke: I am coming for you… hehe… run, run as fast as you can… (aims sniper rifle at head) End of the line, inmate!

Unknown Voice: What! No… its got me… Argh… (gets pull down elevator shaft into blackness) (echos) No… NO!!! I won’t be one of you… NO!!!

Locke: Well that tied up itself? Wonder what that was that got him? Oh well…

Unknown Voice: (echos) MWHAHAHA! WE ARE ONE… WE ARE LEGION!

Screen Blackens
End Scene

This is what a level could be an abandoned-ghost ship… which has a strange vibe to it… stuff keeps happening to which the investigation sours.

I depicted Arbiter as a wise, over-voice… who is taking a back seat and giving Locke intel on his surroundings…

I depicted Locke as a subversive, malicious and stricken individual… as he is ONI… and they do what they do so others do not. Although he does like to joke slightly and torment his victims…

I depicted the cloaked figure (John-117) as ‘evil’ as his gift was a infection form… this connects to a theory on the forums by Cobra… who states John-117 may be manipulated by the Gravemind?

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> I don’t think he should be furious, i think he should be laughing maniacally at the sight of Chief’s face when he lays his eyes upon the terrorfying monster he thought dead. Maybe even have Gravemind taunt him for it. Moving on…
>
>
>
> > Guilty Spark didn’t kill Johnson because he hated humanity. He killed him because Johnson was going to activate the ring to kill the Flood. If Gravemind didn’t put so much pressure on the situation waiting wouldn’t of been an issue.
>
> I’d say Guilty Spark was semi rampant at that point. I don’t think it had anything to do with the flood. Sure he wanted to prevent the rings premature activation, but before that, even though he was fully aware that it was not complete, he was happily willing to comply with Master Chief’s request to light it. That sudden change of mind only screams ‘rampancy’ to me.
>
>
>
> > <mark>If Palmer killed Halsey because Osman ordered her too is it her fault Halsey died?</mark> Palmer wouldn’t need to kill her if Osman didn’t give the order and Guilty Spark wouldn’t of had to kill Johnson if Gravemind wasn’t attacking the Control Room.
>
> Yes it most certainly is! Palmer only chose to follow that order on very selective circumstances. If she outright ignored Del Rio’s order to arrest Chief, but then jumps at the first opportunity to kill Halsey, it becomes hard to take her seriously with her “orders are orders” philosophy. She had formed biased reservations on Halsey, and so, did not think of twice about the repercussions of attempting to execute her. Of course that can be really blamed on the writing team, but the point still stands.
>
> As for Guilty Spark, that still doesn’t add up. I say again, he didn’t kill Johnson because the Flood were coming too strong, otherwise he would have fired the ring right away. Instead he says “a premature firing would destroy the Ark!!” implying that his only intention was to keep his beloved ring safe. He had no intention of allowing its destruction again. He wanted the ring complete. Once again, it had nothing to do with the Gravemind.

I agree that Guilty Spark was on the brink of Rampancy. That is very clear but Johnson wanted to fire the Ring because of the Flood, the reason they needed to fire it now and not day a “few more days” was because there was an entire army of Flood moving on that Control room. No way the 4 of them even with sentinel support would of won that battle. It was fire the ring now or let the Flood win, Guilty Sparks emotional attachment to Installation 04 made him upset at the thought of losing it again. So he’d rather kill everyone and just wait until it was safer to fire the Ring.

Without Gravemind’s pressure on the situation waiting a few more days probably wouldn’t of been too much of a bad thing. I.E. if Gravemind died at High Charity and the Flood was disorganized waiting awhile couldn’t much of a problem since it would take some time before they could reorganize. With the Shadow of Intent staying behind only would of helped.

To the Palmer situation i was just using that as an example not in its truth. Throwing away all previous influence to the situation a soldier getting the orders to kill someone and then killing that person isn’t a bad thing. If someone felt the need to exact avenge the person who was killed do they go for the person who pulled the trigger or the one who gave the order?

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> > Guilty Spark didn’t kill Johnson because he hated humanity. He killed him because Johnson was going to activate the ring to kill the Flood. If Gravemind didn’t put so much pressure on the situation waiting wouldn’t of been an issue.
>
> I’d say Guilty Spark was semi rampant at that point. I don’t think it had anything to do with the flood. Sure he wanted to prevent the rings premature activation, but before that, even though he was fully aware that it was not complete, he was happily willing to comply with Master Chief’s request to light it. That sudden change of mind only screams ‘rampancy’ to me.
> I believe Guilty Spark thought Chief would fire the rings in a few days when it would be ready. After Chief explains he wants to light it Guilty Spark goes on a ramble about it, but we don’t hear him finish what he says. It’s likely that Spark tells him the ring will be ready soon but we don’t hear that.

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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Scene Opens
>
> SECRET ONI CONTAINMENT FACILITY: MIDNIGHT
> STATUS: BREACHED
>
> Arbiter: Agent Locke what is it… what do you see…
>
> Locke: Nothing! Just dust and echoes… The message repeats…
>
> Shipboard AI: QUARANTINE LOCK DOWN IN-EFFECT! Standby for confirmation…
>
> Locke: Arbiter this place is abandoned… yet death lingers, it has a unknown odor about it…
>
> Arbiter: Hmm… something is not right.
>
> Locke: Arbiter lone-signal, could it be him?
>
> Arbiter: Perhaps track it… see where it leads…
>
> Locke: Very well… Um Arbiter its just a ghost-device… no user in sight? Strange.
>
> Arbiter: How is this strange Agent Locke?
>
> Locke: Usually are tracking devices are held INSIDE are neural-nets… our brains?
>
> Arbiter: Something must be wrong… wait, movement… 360 degrees down the left hallway… quickly, its fast.
>
> Unknown Voice: Help Me! No… NO… NO!!! Bottom floor bad… top floor good!
>
> Locke: Who are you?! Explain yourself… are you ONI, UNSC or an Innie?! TALK NOW or I start shooting…
>
> Unknown Voice: Okay… okay… my names, my names… um I can’t remember… I am, was, a prisoner aboard this ship…
>
> Locke: What are you doing outside your cell? And where is the Prison watch?
>
> Unknown Voice: I… I… don’t know but a man, a single man, cloaked and clad in armor… like you hahha… like you… except bigger, silent… more scary… and he had a gift… he called it a gift… hahaheheh
>
> Locke: Arbiter did you hear all that…
>
> Arbiter: Yes… it seems we are on the right trail. We must leave, before it gets cold.
>
> Locke: Hold on… I got to tie up a loose end… (turns to prisoner) Thanks for the information… now goodbye… (draws handgun)
>
> Unknown Voice: No… No… I am so outta here… (trips on empty elevator shaft) (grabs ledge)… oh Yoink! man… Yoink!..
>
> Locke: I am coming for you… hehe… run, run as fast as you can… (aims sniper rifle at head) End of the line, inmate!
>
> Unknown Voice: What! No… its got me… Argh… (gets pull down elevator shaft into blackness) (echos) No… NO!!! I won’t be one of you… NO!!!
>
> Locke: Well that tied up itself? Wonder what that was that got him? Oh well…
>
> Unknown Voice: (echos) MWHAHAHA! WE ARE ONE… WE ARE LEGION!
>
> Screen Blackens
> End Scene
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> This is what a level could be an abandoned-ghost ship… which has a strange vibe to it… stuff keeps happening to which the investigation sours.
>
> I depicted Arbiter as a wise, over-voice… who is taking a back seat and giving Locke intel on his surroundings…
>
> I depicted Locke as a subversive, malicious and stricken individual… as he is ONI… and they do what they do so others do not. Although he does like to joke slightly and torment his victims…
>
> I depicted the cloaked figure (John-117) as ‘evil’ as his gift was a infection form… this connects to a theory on the forums by Cobra… <mark>who states John-117 may be manipulated by the Gravemind?</mark>

And just like that I’ve been introduced into the Indoctrination theory again. Cool scene here but i’m not sure if Locke will be a bit sadistic. I think 343i will try to make a more loving character out of him rather an a guy who watches the movie SAW religiously.

I understand where that theory comes from, I’ve often thought of it and i’m sure many others have too from Graveminds influence on MC in Halo 3 and how he corrupted Cortana than MC just goes right on ahead and INJECTS HER INTO HIS BRAIN but that was all shutdown with Halo 4 IMO.

None of the Sentinels, Prometehans, Didact or even the Librarian were able to detect any kind of Flood presence from MC. If they did and that’s why the Prometheans first attacked MC so why didn’t the Librarian detect it as well or 343i Guilty Spark.

Didact even scanned Cortana while she was aboard his ship and had nothing to say about the corrupted presence within her.

If it turns out that Cortana being corrupted was the evolution that Didact found in her and it will allow her to become a real person because Gravemind felt bad for her than i’m out. I just wouldn’t be able to take Halo serious anymore. Either way if it was the Flood Didact would probably focus more on killing MC rather than ignoring him almost entirely since his Flood and Human killing obsession would basically be his Magnum Opus.

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> > > Guilty Spark didn’t kill Johnson because he hated humanity. He killed him because Johnson was going to activate the ring to kill the Flood. If Gravemind didn’t put so much pressure on the situation waiting wouldn’t of been an issue.
> >
> > I’d say Guilty Spark was semi rampant at that point. I don’t think it had anything to do with the flood. Sure he wanted to prevent the rings premature activation, but before that, even though he was fully aware that it was not complete, he was happily willing to comply with Master Chief’s request to light it. That sudden change of mind only screams ‘rampancy’ to me.
> > I believe Guilty Spark thought Chief would fire the rings in a few days when it would be ready. After Chief explains he wants to light it Guilty Spark goes on a ramble about it, but we don’t hear him finish what he says. It’s likely that Spark tells him the ring will be ready soon but we don’t hear that.
>
> Ok i get what your saying now and i think i know what scene you’re talking about too. When Guilty Spark flies away and you can kind of hear him and the subtitles don’t pick up what he is saying.

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> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Scene Opens
> >
> > SECRET ONI CONTAINMENT FACILITY: MIDNIGHT
> > STATUS: BREACHED
> >
> > Arbiter: Agent Locke what is it… what do you see…
> >
> > Locke: Nothing! Just dust and echoes… The message repeats…
> >
> > Shipboard AI: QUARANTINE LOCK DOWN IN-EFFECT! Standby for confirmation…
> >
> > Locke: Arbiter this place is abandoned… yet death lingers, it has a unknown odor about it…
> >
> > Arbiter: Hmm… something is not right.
> >
> > Locke: Arbiter lone-signal, could it be him?
> >
> > Arbiter: Perhaps track it… see where it leads…
> >
> > Locke: Very well… Um Arbiter its just a ghost-device… no user in sight? Strange.
> >
> > Arbiter: How is this strange Agent Locke?
> >
> > Locke: Usually are tracking devices are held INSIDE are neural-nets… our brains?
> >
> > Arbiter: Something must be wrong… wait, movement… 360 degrees down the left hallway… quickly, its fast.
> >
> > Unknown Voice: Help Me! No… NO… NO!!! Bottom floor bad… top floor good!
> >
> > Locke: Who are you?! Explain yourself… are you ONI, UNSC or an Innie?! TALK NOW or I start shooting…
> >
> > Unknown Voice: Okay… okay… my names, my names… um I can’t remember… I am, was, a prisoner aboard this ship…
> >
> > Locke: What are you doing outside your cell? And where is the Prison watch?
> >
> > Unknown Voice: I… I… don’t know but a man, a single man, cloaked and clad in armor… like you hahha… like you… except bigger, silent… more scary… and he had a gift… he called it a gift… hahaheheh
> >
> > Locke: Arbiter did you hear all that…
> >
> > Arbiter: Yes… it seems we are on the right trail. We must leave, before it gets cold.
> >
> > Locke: Hold on… I got to tie up a loose end… (turns to prisoner) Thanks for the information… now goodbye… (draws handgun)
> >
> > Unknown Voice: No… No… I am so outta here… (trips on empty elevator shaft) (grabs ledge)… oh Yoink! man… Yoink!..
> >
> > Locke: I am coming for you… hehe… run, run as fast as you can… (aims sniper rifle at head) End of the line, inmate!
> >
> > Unknown Voice: What! No… its got me… Argh… (gets pull down elevator shaft into blackness) (echos) No… NO!!! I won’t be one of you… NO!!!
> >
> > Locke: Well that tied up itself? Wonder what that was that got him? Oh well…
> >
> > Unknown Voice: (echos) MWHAHAHA! WE ARE ONE… WE ARE LEGION!
> >
> > Screen Blackens
> > End Scene
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > This is what a level could be an abandoned-ghost ship… which has a strange vibe to it… stuff keeps happening to which the investigation sours.
> >
> > I depicted Arbiter as a wise, over-voice… who is taking a back seat and giving Locke intel on his surroundings…
> >
> > I depicted Locke as a subversive, malicious and stricken individual… as he is ONI… and they do what they do so others do not. Although he does like to joke slightly and torment his victims…
> >
> > I depicted the cloaked figure (John-117) as ‘evil’ as his gift was a infection form… this connects to a theory on the forums by Cobra… <mark>who states John-117 may be manipulated by the Gravemind?</mark>
>
> And just like that I’ve been introduced into the Indoctrination theory again. Cool scene here but i’m not sure if Locke will be a bit sadistic. I think 343i will try to make a more loving character out of him rather an a guy who watches the movie SAW religiously.
>
> I understand where that theory comes from, I’ve often thought of it and i’m sure many others have too from Graveminds influence on MC in Halo 3 and how he corrupted Cortana than MC just goes right on ahead and INJECTS HER INTO HIS BRAIN but that was all shutdown with Halo 4 IMO.
>
> None of the Sentinels, Prometehans, Didact or even the Librarian were able to detect any kind of Flood presence from MC. If they did and that’s why the Prometheans first attacked MC so why didn’t the Librarian detect it as well or 343i Guilty Spark.
>
> Didact even scanned Cortana while she was aboard his ship and had nothing to say about the corrupted presence within her.
>
> If it turns out that Cortana being corrupted was the evolution that Didact found in her and it will allow her to become a real person because Gravemind felt bad for her than i’m out. I just wouldn’t be able to take Halo serious anymore. Either way if it was the Flood Didact would probably focus more on killing MC rather than ignoring him almost entirely since his Flood and Human killing obsession would basically be his Magnum Opus.

By corrupted we don’t mean infected.

The Didact in Halo 4 was corrupted by the Flood. He wasn’t infected, wasn’t growing growths out of his body, but his mind was attacked and severely influenced by the Gravemind. Insanity.
We know the Gravemind managed to do something with John through the Gravemind and Cortana moments in Halo 3. Those were the Gravemind, likely trying to break down his moral and expose his weaknesses.

The Logic Plague also doesn’t leave physical signs of “infection”. It just forces an artificial intelligence to rethink its goals and priorities, infiltrating the very “logic” systems of the construct. This forces them into a premature rampancy, causing them to become very aggressive and defect to the Flood. The short story “Human Weakness” in Evolutions shows the Logic Plague at work as the Gravemind interacts with Cortana. Teasing her, making her think that everyone has abandoned her, “physically” attacking her through unknown means, etc.
She survived it, but the effects certainly remained.

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> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Scene Opens
> >
> > SECRET ONI CONTAINMENT FACILITY: MIDNIGHT
> > STATUS: BREACHED
> >
> > Arbiter: Agent Locke what is it… what do you see…
> >
> > Locke: Nothing! Just dust and echoes… The message repeats…
> >
> > Shipboard AI: QUARANTINE LOCK DOWN IN-EFFECT! Standby for confirmation…
> >
> > Locke: Arbiter this place is abandoned… yet death lingers, it has a unknown odor about it…
> >
> > Arbiter: Hmm… something is not right.
> >
> > Locke: Arbiter lone-signal, could it be him?
> >
> > Arbiter: Perhaps track it… see where it leads…
> >
> > Locke: Very well… Um Arbiter its just a ghost-device… no user in sight? Strange.
> >
> > Arbiter: How is this strange Agent Locke?
> >
> > Locke: Usually are tracking devices are held INSIDE are neural-nets… our brains?
> >
> > Arbiter: Something must be wrong… wait, movement… 360 degrees down the left hallway… quickly, its fast.
> >
> > Unknown Voice: Help Me! No… NO… NO!!! Bottom floor bad… top floor good!
> >
> > Locke: Who are you?! Explain yourself… are you ONI, UNSC or an Innie?! TALK NOW or I start shooting…
> >
> > Unknown Voice: Okay… okay… my names, my names… um I can’t remember… I am, was, a prisoner aboard this ship…
> >
> > Locke: What are you doing outside your cell? And where is the Prison watch?
> >
> > Unknown Voice: I… I… don’t know but a man, a single man, cloaked and clad in armor… like you hahha… like you… except bigger, silent… more scary… and he had a gift… he called it a gift… hahaheheh
> >
> > Locke: Arbiter did you hear all that…
> >
> > Arbiter: Yes… it seems we are on the right trail. We must leave, before it gets cold.
> >
> > Locke: Hold on… I got to tie up a loose end… (turns to prisoner) Thanks for the information… now goodbye… (draws handgun)
> >
> > Unknown Voice: No… No… I am so outta here… (trips on empty elevator shaft) (grabs ledge)… oh Yoink! man… Yoink!..
> >
> > Locke: I am coming for you… hehe… run, run as fast as you can… (aims sniper rifle at head) End of the line, inmate!
> >
> > Unknown Voice: What! No… its got me… Argh… (gets pull down elevator shaft into blackness) (echos) No… NO!!! I won’t be one of you… NO!!!
> >
> > Locke: Well that tied up itself? Wonder what that was that got him? Oh well…
> >
> > Unknown Voice: (echos) MWHAHAHA! WE ARE ONE… WE ARE LEGION!
> >
> > Screen Blackens
> > End Scene
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > This is what a level could be an abandoned-ghost ship… which has a strange vibe to it… stuff keeps happening to which the investigation sours.
> >
> > I depicted Arbiter as a wise, over-voice… who is taking a back seat and giving Locke intel on his surroundings…
> >
> > I depicted Locke as a subversive, malicious and stricken individual… as he is ONI… and they do what they do so others do not. Although he does like to joke slightly and torment his victims…
> >
> > I depicted the cloaked figure (John-117) as ‘evil’ as his gift was a infection form… this connects to a theory on the forums by Cobra… <mark>who states John-117 may be manipulated by the Gravemind?</mark>
>
> And just like that I’ve been introduced into the Indoctrination theory again. Cool scene here but i’m not sure if Locke will be a bit sadistic. I think 343i will try to make a more loving character out of him rather an a guy who watches the movie SAW religiously.
>
> I understand where that theory comes from, I’ve often thought of it and i’m sure many others have too from Graveminds influence on MC in Halo 3 and how he corrupted Cortana than MC just goes right on ahead and INJECTS HER INTO HIS BRAIN but that was all shutdown with Halo 4 IMO.
>
> None of the Sentinels, Prometehans, Didact or even the Librarian were able to detect any kind of Flood presence from MC. If they did and that’s why the Prometheans first attacked MC so why didn’t the Librarian detect it as well or 343i Guilty Spark.
>
> Didact even scanned Cortana while she was aboard his ship and had nothing to say about the corrupted presence within her.
>
> If it turns out that Cortana being corrupted was the evolution that Didact found in her and it will allow her to become a real person because Gravemind felt bad for her than i’m out. I just wouldn’t be able to take Halo serious anymore. Either way if it was the Flood Didact would probably focus more on killing MC rather than ignoring him almost entirely since his Flood and Human killing obsession would basically be his Magnum Opus.

This was merely an example of the fear that comes with the Flood and that it should be a ghost-ship type deal… like:

Halo: Evolutions - The Mona Lisa

Star Wars Republic Commando - Ghost Recon
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4

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> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Scene Opens
> > >
> > > SECRET ONI CONTAINMENT FACILITY: MIDNIGHT
> > > STATUS: BREACHED
> > >
> > > Arbiter: Agent Locke what is it… what do you see…
> > >
> > > Locke: Nothing! Just dust and echoes… The message repeats…
> > >
> > > Shipboard AI: QUARANTINE LOCK DOWN IN-EFFECT! Standby for confirmation…
> > >
> > > Locke: Arbiter this place is abandoned… yet death lingers, it has a unknown odor about it…
> > >
> > > Arbiter: Hmm… something is not right.
> > >
> > > Locke: Arbiter lone-signal, could it be him?
> > >
> > > Arbiter: Perhaps track it… see where it leads…
> > >
> > > Locke: Very well… Um Arbiter its just a ghost-device… no user in sight? Strange.
> > >
> > > Arbiter: How is this strange Agent Locke?
> > >
> > > Locke: Usually are tracking devices are held INSIDE are neural-nets… our brains?
> > >
> > > Arbiter: Something must be wrong… wait, movement… 360 degrees down the left hallway… quickly, its fast.
> > >
> > > Unknown Voice: Help Me! No… NO… NO!!! Bottom floor bad… top floor good!
> > >
> > > Locke: Who are you?! Explain yourself… are you ONI, UNSC or an Innie?! TALK NOW or I start shooting…
> > >
> > > Unknown Voice: Okay… okay… my names, my names… um I can’t remember… I am, was, a prisoner aboard this ship…
> > >
> > > Locke: What are you doing outside your cell? And where is the Prison watch?
> > >
> > > Unknown Voice: I… I… don’t know but a man, a single man, cloaked and clad in armor… like you hahha… like you… except bigger, silent… more scary… and he had a gift… he called it a gift… hahaheheh
> > >
> > > Locke: Arbiter did you hear all that…
> > >
> > > Arbiter: Yes… it seems we are on the right trail. We must leave, before it gets cold.
> > >
> > > Locke: Hold on… I got to tie up a loose end… (turns to prisoner) Thanks for the information… now goodbye… (draws handgun)
> > >
> > > Unknown Voice: No… No… I am so outta here… (trips on empty elevator shaft) (grabs ledge)… oh Yoink! man… Yoink!..
> > >
> > > Locke: I am coming for you… hehe… run, run as fast as you can… (aims sniper rifle at head) End of the line, inmate!
> > >
> > > Unknown Voice: What! No… its got me… Argh… (gets pull down elevator shaft into blackness) (echos) No… NO!!! I won’t be one of you… NO!!!
> > >
> > > Locke: Well that tied up itself? Wonder what that was that got him? Oh well…
> > >
> > > Unknown Voice: (echos) MWHAHAHA! WE ARE ONE… WE ARE LEGION!
> > >
> > > Screen Blackens
> > > End Scene
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > This is what a level could be an abandoned-ghost ship… which has a strange vibe to it… stuff keeps happening to which the investigation sours.
> > >
> > > I depicted Arbiter as a wise, over-voice… who is taking a back seat and giving Locke intel on his surroundings…
> > >
> > > I depicted Locke as a subversive, malicious and stricken individual… as he is ONI… and they do what they do so others do not. Although he does like to joke slightly and torment his victims…
> > >
> > > I depicted the cloaked figure (John-117) as ‘evil’ as his gift was a infection form… this connects to a theory on the forums by Cobra… <mark>who states John-117 may be manipulated by the Gravemind?</mark>
> >
> > And just like that I’ve been introduced into the Indoctrination theory again. Cool scene here but i’m not sure if Locke will be a bit sadistic. I think 343i will try to make a more loving character out of him rather an a guy who watches the movie SAW religiously.
> >
> > I understand where that theory comes from, I’ve often thought of it and i’m sure many others have too from Graveminds influence on MC in Halo 3 and how he corrupted Cortana than MC just goes right on ahead and INJECTS HER INTO HIS BRAIN but that was all shutdown with Halo 4 IMO.
> >
> > None of the Sentinels, Prometehans, Didact or even the Librarian were able to detect any kind of Flood presence from MC. If they did and that’s why the Prometheans first attacked MC so why didn’t the Librarian detect it as well or 343i Guilty Spark.
> >
> > Didact even scanned Cortana while she was aboard his ship and had nothing to say about the corrupted presence within her.
> >
> > If it turns out that Cortana being corrupted was the evolution that Didact found in her and it will allow her to become a real person because Gravemind felt bad for her than i’m out. I just wouldn’t be able to take Halo serious anymore. Either way if it was the Flood Didact would probably focus more on killing MC rather than ignoring him almost entirely since his Flood and Human killing obsession would basically be his Magnum Opus.
>
> This was merely an example of the fear that comes with the Flood and that it should be a ghost-ship type deal… like:
>
> Halo: Evolutions - The Mona Lisa
>
> Star Wars Republic Commando - Ghost Recon
> Part 1
> Part 2
> Part 3
> Part 4

LoL all you needed to say was like Republic Commando. I enjoyed every minute of that game expect losing my brother. I’m just waiting for Imperial Commando now.

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> You know, when i really think about it, my favorite character from the entire Halo series might just have to be Gravemind. Every word “he” spoke had so much power behind them and when we last heard him he didn’t sound happy at all.
>
> Gravemind knew when he had to set aside his petty differences to do what must be done. He allied himself with MC and Thel twice, now you could say he was using them but isn’t that just what every alliance is?

Completely agree with it all. I miss the sheer “infinite-ness” he gave off. He just seemed so much larger than anything else in existence at that point. I want to experience it again.

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Got a sneaky suspicion that your wish of the Gravemind and Flood raging at us will come true OP.

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> Got a sneaky suspicion that your wish of the Gravemind and Flood raging at us will come true OP.

Just something i found.

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If anyone has read Silentium from cover to cover, THAT should be a good example of the Flood’s horror.

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> I agree that Guilty Spark was on the brink of Rampancy. That is very clear but Johnson wanted to fire the Ring because of the Flood, the reason they needed to fire it now and not day a “few more days” was because there was an entire army of Flood moving on that Control room. No way the 4 of them even with sentinel support would of won that battle. It was fire the ring now or let the Flood win, Guilty Sparks emotional attachment to Installation 04 made him upset at the thought of losing it again. So he’d rather kill everyone and just wait until it was safer to fire the Ring.
>
> Without Gravemind’s pressure on the situation waiting a few more days probably wouldn’t of been too much of a bad thing. I.E. if Gravemind died at High Charity and the Flood was disorganized waiting awhile couldn’t much of a problem since it would take some time before they could reorganize. With the Shadow of Intent staying behind only would of helped.

Well thats a fair assessment, i suppose. I just think for a forerunner AI, who pledged his allegiance to Chief, he ought to have known better.

> To the Palmer situation i was just using that as an example not in its truth. Throwing away all previous influence to the situation a soldier getting the orders to kill someone and then killing that person isn’t a bad thing. If someone felt the need to exact avenge the person who was killed do they go for the <mark>person who pulled the trigger or the one who gave the order?</mark>

From a realistic standpoint? Both.

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> > I agree that Guilty Spark was on the brink of Rampancy. That is very clear but Johnson wanted to fire the Ring because of the Flood, the reason they needed to fire it now and not day a “few more days” was because there was an entire army of Flood moving on that Control room. No way the 4 of them even with sentinel support would of won that battle. It was fire the ring now or let the Flood win, Guilty Sparks emotional attachment to Installation 04 made him upset at the thought of losing it again. So he’d rather kill everyone and just wait until it was safer to fire the Ring.
> >
> > Without Gravemind’s pressure on the situation waiting a few more days probably wouldn’t of been too much of a bad thing. I.E. if Gravemind died at High Charity and the Flood was disorganized waiting awhile couldn’t much of a problem since it would take some time before they could reorganize. With the Shadow of Intent staying behind only would of helped.
>
> Well thats a fair assessment, i suppose. I just think for a forerunner AI, who pledged his allegiance to Chief, he ought to have known better.
>
>
>
> > To the Palmer situation i was just using that as an example not in its truth. Throwing away all previous influence to the situation a soldier getting the orders to kill someone and then killing that person isn’t a bad thing. If someone felt the need to exact avenge the person who was killed do they go for the <mark>person who pulled the trigger or the one who gave the order?</mark>
>
> <mark>From a realistic standpoint? Both.</mark>

Exactly, i can’t down right blame 343i for killing Johnson, Gravemind played a huge role in his death.