Should the Locust be an equivalent to the Mantis?

Obviously I realize adding the Locust to Halo 5 is probably behind last on 343i’s list of things to do. This poll is just for fun. Ironically I think the Locust would make a good match to the Mantis because of its increased mobility, but decreased damage.

I think we can all agree it would be cool to drive one. Its the closest we’ll ever get to piloting a Scarab.

To my knowledge, the Locust is basically like the Revenant met the Ghost and to me that’s a Covenant Warthog. To that end, if you asked me who would win between a Warthog and a Mantis, I would very quickly say the Mantis.

a.k.a : No, I don’t think of them as equivalent.

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> To my knowledge, the Locust is basically like the Revenant met the Ghost and to me that’s a Covenant Warthog. To that end, if you asked me who would win between a Warthog and a Mantis, I would very quickly say the Mantis.
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> a.k.a : No, I don’t think of them as equivalent.

The Locust is much larger than a Warthog and in no way shares any similarities with it.

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> > To my knowledge, the Locust is basically like the Revenant met the Ghost and to me that’s a Covenant Warthog. To that end, if you asked me who would win between a Warthog and a Mantis, I would very quickly say the Mantis.
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> > a.k.a : No, I don’t think of them as equivalent.
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> The Locust is much larger than a Warthog and in no way shares any similarities with it.

Yeah, I just checked myself on that. I was thinking of how Halo 4 tried to bring back the Revenant, and thought they had renamed it the Locust. That’s my bad.

[Halo 4 Revenant

](Halo 4 - The Revenant and Disintegrator - YouTube)With the correction in mind… I guess that would actually be about as close to a Mantis as the Covenant will get.

If its only purpose is to serve as an ‘equivalent’ simply because its a walker with shields then no. Halo has had issues in the past with sandbox bloat giving every single slight niche an ‘equivalent’.

I would rather see a sort of Locust ‘V2’ replace the Wraith and a Light tank(with wall climbing abilities). We get a change in the Halo sandbox with a shiny new style vehicle without leaving significant hole in the sandbox. The Wraith wasn’t all that interesting anyway, it was basically a indirect fire scorpion with a larger weakspot.

Any faction ‘equivalents’ need to be as diverse as possible and avoid direct overlap as much as possible. Mongoose/Ghost are a good example of this, so is the Falcon/Banshee(Hornet is far too similar to the Banshee funcitonally). The Revenant was a more interesting counterpart to the Warthog than the Spectre due to the pilot controlled gun and mortar. I’m honestly glad the Halo 4 variant didn’t make it in since it removed some of its unique qualities by making another driver/gunner style vehicle.

Long story short the Locust could definitely add something to the sandbox but only if the reason for including it is not a shallow “so the Covenant can have a walker too.”

Well, its like anything the humans have is better than the covies. BR is better than carbine. Scorpion -Yoink- all over the Wraith. Hornet is better than the banshee, and the Mantis is probably better than the locust.

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> Well, its like anything the humans have is better than the covies. BR is better than carbine. Scorpion -Yoink- all over the Wraith. Hornet is better than the banshee, and the Mantis is probably better than the locust.

No way, a locust climbs over buildings and has a laser meant to destroy buildings to boot, locust beats the crap out of mantis if it is what it is in the lore, it is a mini scarab.

Oh my god YES, I want they to add also Halo Wars vehiclesto this game _

I wouldn’t mind it having the similar affect the focus rifle did against vehicles. Very weak damage but can fire its beam for a long time and pushes vehicles around.

I would like to see that the Mantis would ve replaced with Cyclops, that would be semi-heavy vehicle. And yes I would love to see Locust as Covenant semi-heavy vehicle, but they should each function differently & uniquely, but both should be at same tier vehicles & balanced. Perhaps that they both would specialise taking out light vehicles & harassing stronger ones.

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> Well, its like anything the humans have is better than the covies. BR is better than carbine. Scorpion -Yoink- all over the Wraith. Hornet is better than the banshee, and the Mantis is probably better than the locust.

In the lore no. In gameplay it depends.
Carbine in all games can rek the BR except for halo 2. Scorpion is not better than the wraith. It’s the fact that people use the wraith as a scorpion tank that gives this illusion. The wraith though takes more skill to use. The banshee can also outright destroy the hornet and falcon except for halo 2A but this requires using the banshee tricks. Also the Locust and mantis are completely different. The locust has shields and 2 firing modes that can shrek shields and metal.