Bottom line: 343 made it crystal clear what WOULD be included at launch. People still bought the game and complain that it wasn’t included at launch. Really? It’s absurd to act that way. 343 did exactly what they told us they would–stop complaining about it.
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> Halo 2 had EVERYTHING halo 1 had and more. Halo 3 had everything halo 2 had and new stuff. Halo 4 had everything halo 3 had…even reach had everything and more new stuff. Notice the trend here? Halo 5 has LESS game modes than halo 2 that came out in 2004 and halo 3 that came out in 2007… So halo 5 had jack for gametypes and many other staples missing. Sorry that I have standards? And I don’t just blindly love 343 when they punched me in the face over and over again. I’m not going to forget nor forgive. Also microtransactions… And remixes counted as full fledged new maps… I don’t. A new map is a new layout new theme and not 90% based on a existing map. Unless it’s lockout or guardian. Those maps as is we’re perfect and don’t need any changes. And after the mcc being broken for a long time… They sweep it under the rug don’t mention it at all in updates… How should I feel happy? Content? I feel robbed.
I wouldn’t say Halo 4 had everything Halo 3/Reach had cause it just didn’t. But I get your point.
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> The thing is 343 was pretty clear on what would be in the game at launch and other stuff would be added in monthly updates… no one forced you to buy the game at launch. You could have waited till the game had what you wanted in it. As far as “microtransactions” H5 has the best system in place out of most games. No game changing content is behind a pay wall and every one gets the updates regardless whether they bought req packs or not. Sure there should have been more stuff unlockable by game play. But the only way to stop this trend of adding later is not to buy the game at launch. Look at Hitman launching with like one or two missions I read somewhere and more missions will be added later… yoink that I say… not worth buying… but in H5 case I was satisfied with what the game had at launch and each update is making it better and giving me something to look forward to as I play. I hated the way you maxed out H4 in a few months flat. H5 has had way better longevity. Had a csr rank, xp rank, commendations, reqs, and cosmetics. I just wish there was more camp type achievements. The problem is most gamers just assume and don’t read so when they don’t get what they assumed they get ticked… not to mention the impatience in most gamers now a days… want it all now and for free if possible any thing else is unacceptable and will result in instant raging on the internet… each update announcement then the forums are flooded with its not good enough and they haven’t even received the content yet!!
No game changing content? Take someone who is new to the game and put their unlocks against some of the people that play this game nonstop and are lvl 149. I’m pretty sure the lvl 149 playing a game of WZ will enjoy it a lot better thanks to the “game changing content”
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> The only way to stop this trend of adding later is not to buy the game at launch. Look at Hitman launching with like one or two missions I read somewhere and more missions will be added later… yoink that I say… not worth buying… but in H5 case I was satisfied with what the game had at launch and each update is making it better and giving me something to look forward to as I play. I hated the way you maxed out H4 in a few months flat. H5 has had way better longevity. Had a csr rank, xp rank, commendations, reqs, and cosmetics.
I didn’t max out H4 in a few months lol because that’s not how I play Halo. Halo has never been about “maxing out” or achievement hunters or grinding until 343 got their hands on it. You think H5 has good longevity because you get a few new achievements to get each month? Halos of old had good longevity simply because people wanted and loved the gameplay, not a little to-do list.
Halo 5’s population is already dying so I don’t know how you can say it has good longevity. It’s redundant, shallow and incomplete.
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That’s where you’re wrong. It means more to us than just being “that simple” to let something go that once had meaning.
Just want to say that VVonderboy is killing it in this thread. Couldn’t be more on point in almost every way and doing it in a respectful manner. Kudos
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> Just want to say that VVonderboy is killing it in this thread. Couldn’t be more on point in almost every way and doing it in a respectful manner. Kudos
Too right mate.
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Haha thanks guys.
Just my opinions of course, but I do put a lot of time into them.
I made a 4.5 hour review of the beta and a similar one is coming for H5 I fear…
I love players who care about the community. The ones who don’t roll over and show their stomachs in the face of badness in general. In this case it’s 343 not realeasing content when they should have.
Don’t get me wrong, Halo 5 will be a great game after 343 realeases all content. Oh, and that player I was talking about? VVONDERBOY for president 2016.
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> Just want to say that VVonderboy is killing it in this thread. Couldn’t be more on point in almost every way and doing it in a respectful manner. Kudos
Scrolls back a page.
Reads his posts.
Dude, -Yoinking!- understatement of the century right there.
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> I love players who care about the community. The ones who don’t roll over and show their stomachs in the face of badness in general. In this case it’s 343 not realeasing content when they should have.
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That’s how I see it too. It’s one thing to like Halo 5, nobody is saying you can’t. But the game isn’t perfect and it’s taken 7 months to get to where it is today and yet there are still problems. Can you imagine what Halo 5 would look like if the people who say they love the game had free reign? Would we have gotten new (ie old) gametypes back? Would we have gotten a refined color palette? Would we have gotten anything that has made the game better piece by piece? Given how much people who “complained” about things like Infection, Grifball, UI changes and so were flamed and called ungrateful I have my doubts. Like it or not, the people who have complained at this point seem to show more concern for the longevity of the game than the people who seemingly love it.
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Dr. Halsey, you are awesome. My thoughts exactly. If people had free reign over this game it would remind me of Duke nuke em. Over 12 years to make and still flopped.
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And that is why we respect your opinion.
It’s easy to just like something and ignore the problems with something, and it’s easy to just hate something and wash your hands of something, call it dead. But when you’ve looked at the situation, and took all the experiences and collected them in to a well thought out opinion that is expressed with the goal of improving the Halo and community experience for everyone, you should be praised for that, not condemned like so many like to do.
Everything good with Halo 5 came from the community. From our opinions on Halo 4 to Halo 5’s release state, we did that. If more of the community stood together during MCC, and even today, the game would have been a bigger issue for MS and 343i.
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> Bottom line: 343 made it crystal clear what WOULD be included at launch. People still bought the game and complain that it wasn’t included at launch. Really? It’s absurd to act that way. 343 did exactly what they told us they would–stop complaining about it.
VV0NDERBOY has made a lot of good points. In my opinion, I would vote for him as president. On the other hand just because they made it crystal clear doesn’t make it right. We all want to see chief’s story. Some of us have been with him from the beginning and want to make sure they do him justice and thats why we bought the game. You’re entitled to your opinion like the rest of us but this really isn’t the praise 343 forum. that’s 2 posts over. lol
I was only making a joke and trying to show how ridiculous some of these things get. Don’t take offense. This is just another game and not life. that goes for everyone. Masterchief has an amazing storyline that keeps alot of us on our seats wanting more. Whether its books or games, some of us want more. We want more in our games when we buy them and we want more for our buck.
Remember when games was sold as a full game?
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I also remember Halo Ce launching at $60 and all you got was a campaign and LAN multiplayer… I think Halo 5 has much more content.
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Halo’s of old had longevity because FPS hadn’t saturated the market yet. Remember how Halo is the game that brought FPS to console? Yeah, it made them popular. It’s still doing good. But now with so many FPS games the community is split… People look at 343 as the reason Halo is failing when it’s also the same time many other sci-fi fps games launched. And CoD took a lot of Halo’s crowd… back when Bungie still owned Halo.
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> > > Once again as i stated yesterday halo is one of, if not the the most ungreatful communitys i have ever seen. I think halo 5 is awesome, really its fantastic and my favorite halo and ive been playing since CE. All games have flaws but this community is a virus, 343 are still adding awesome content and these ungreatful -Yoinks!- do nothing but complain. When the halo series is long and done people will miss it, and beg to have it back. Just enjoy the games while we have them. Sit back and enjoy the ride spartan. And be THANKFUL!!!
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> - We are not mad that it is not like older Halos. Did you even read the topic of this thread? Does it have much anything to do with “Every game should be the same as the first?”
- This game far surpasses the amount of content as Halo CE did.
- You are right, it doesn’t live up to it’s full potential.
- No, awesome content like weapon and vehicle variants that add diversity to gameplay, new warzone maps, more armor sets than any other Halo game.
- No, this topic isn’t about being like other Halo’s… But they were also saying that the community sucks… Which is what this topic is about.
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VVonderboy, if you’re not part of the HCFP you need to be m8. So glad to see someone else with a level head and useful insight being active.