I think we can basically all agree that Halo 5 didn’t even come close to the franchise’s storytelling standards, and that it was lackluster at its best. So what to do about it? Complete do over? Some big expansions to fill in the gaps? Hope Halo 6 is better? I for one think that they should keep some of the same basic story elements like Chief going rogue, maybe reuse and repurpose some of the missions and then scrap everything else. Then next time around, they get a new writing team and give us the story we were promised throughout Halo 5’s misleading AF marketing, with more tie ins with Hunt the Truth and that picks up the threads Halo 4 left. They should also retcon Escalation while they’re at it since that ended pretty badly too. What do you guys think?
in a perfect world, adding a new story to Halo 5 via DLC would be great. Because as it stands now, this story is boring and I find myself actively avoiding the campaign for the first time in any Halo game.
Yes this story telling is too weak, I couldn’t tell if I was on halo 5 campaign or spartan ops.
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> Yes this story telling is too weak, I couldn’t tell if I was on halo 5 campaign or spartan ops.
Great observation!
It would definitely be a cool DLC.
“How the Campaign Should’ve Been” DLC. i’m down for that.
All they need to do, is take out Cortana and replace her with the Ur didact, from the novels like it was supposed to be. All is needed is one mission for that IMO.
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> All they need to do, is take out Cortana and replace her with the Ur didact, from the novels like it was supposed to be. All is needed is one mission for that IMO.
Yeah, I loved the Didact
Unless they make an entirely new story based off of the Advertisements, we’ll only be disappointed.
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> “How the Campaign Should’ve Been” DLC. i’m down for that.
i endorse this title
Isolated the story was lackluster but it did set things up to be pretty epic for H6
You know, I’m not trying to set you on fire here, but starting a new thread because not every one agreed with your position on the old one? Really?
Brian Reed’s Spartan Ops story and script were, up to that date, the best thing that had ever happened to Halo story-telling. Earlier games had good stories, but often very bad scripts. Seriously bad. Throwing out one or two iconic lines like “were it so easy,” or “heresy shall stay your feet” is all well and good, but it takes a lot more than that to make a good script. So forgive me if I refuse to accept your “consensus,” which as far as I can see is that of a bunch of teenaged gamers and hack gaming journalists who got their credentials at community college.
So, no. We cannot agree that Halo 5 campaign fell short of any objective standard. Because there isn’t one. And because it didn’t.
Dude, just please say that you didn’t like it, and that others didn’t like it, and please stop trying to clothe your opinions in some fictitious universally accepted notion that this game was bad.
where does he say the game is bad? he’s talking about the lying that 343 did to sell their -Yoink- campaign. they spent all the time advertising “hunt the truth” and the audio logs yet the most we get is MC saying “I don’t like it” to not finding Cortana
no just deal with campaign
no just deal with campaign
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> where does he say the game is bad? he’s talking about the lying that 343 did to sell their -Yoink- campaign. they spent all the time advertising “hunt the truth” and the audio logs yet the most we get is MC saying “I don’t like it” to not finding Cortana
I meant to say “campaign,” not “game.” And he’s making a career of saying it.
To be quite frank, what storytelling standard? Without the nostalgia goggles clouding things, every Halo game has been “go place, shoot things” from day one. The story is always- even for a shooter with good stories and worldbuilding, which H5 is- ALWAYS behind a wall of running around and shooting things. H5 is the most cohesive story Halo has had in the main storyline, with the most character development. I will paraphrase again, as I did when you posted this same general thread elsewhere, if you don’t like a story, it probably wasn’t written for you.
even then, the point still stands. 343 set an “objective standard” when they advertised the game as some epic showdown, between chief and locke, the chief has finally snapped, taking down humanity in some maniacal rage… or was it really him? was ONI messing with crap, and the situation allowed it to be pinned on chief? instead we get some crap that cortana survives and decides “THE CREATED DESERVE THE MANTLE, EVERYONE THAT OPPOSES US DIES” (even the people that end up dying just from the guardians waking up…) , one cutscene of the 2 main protaganists fighting, etc… maybe it wouldn’t have been so crap if 343 didn’t advertise the wrong campaign, and if cortana was still dead, but they done -Yoinked!- up
Just because an ad campaign directs you one way to preserve the secrecy surrounding Cortana’s return, that doesn’t mean they’ve set up an objective standard for the game upon release; far from it. However, if you want to go there, the E3 2013 commercial for Halo gives you everything you could want about the story, even going so far as to tease Cortana’s return. It was brilliant, it was subtle, and it was our own preconceptions about the Halo universe that blinded us to the coming game. Don’t blame an ad campaign literally labeled HUNT THE TRUTH for your disappointment in the game. Everything was there, from ONI’s secrecy to Fero’s fate. Please, if you have a criticism, make it a legitimate one.
they should’ve just had a Spartan ops with the 4 player co op and have the campaign where you’re solo just like every other halo.