Should 343 put objective gametypes in BTB

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It’s been 6 months since the release of Halo 4, and we still don’t have objective gametypes in Big Team Battle!

Big Team Infinity Slayer has always been the most popular playlist in Halo 4. It is fun, but it does not live up to its full potential. The biggest reason why is because Infinity Slayer is the only gametype. It’s the same thing over and over again: Who can get the most kills? People want to have objective based gametypes in Big Team Battle, because not everyone is good at getting kills and some people just want a change of pace. I know 343 just added a “big team objective”, but 6v6 just doesn’t cut it. For one, the vehicle combat is not there. There are no tanks or banshees. The maps are too small for some gametypes. Monolith is a team doubles map, not a big team map.

A big problem with Big Team Infinity Slayer is when 5+ people quit. You need to kill 3 people 100 times. That isn’t any fun. If there were only 3 people left you could just end the game by scoring all of the flags in Big Team Objective, saving 10 minutes. 343 just needs to change the name of “Big Team Infinity Slayer” to “Big Team Battle” and they need to put CTF, KOTH, and Extraction as gametypes along with slayer, and people would play more. Not to mention it would make a lot of people happy.

If 343 adds objective into BTB, they would also have to make the 6v6 objective playlist go back down to a 4v4 playlist so people can have a variety of large map objective and small map objective.

Assault in BTB was another really fun gametype to play in Halo 3 and Reach. It is possible to make it happen in this game. All you need to use is the Grifball gametype. They need to make the loadouts be fully customizable, take away the waypoint from the carriers’ head, and make it so you cannot throw the bomb. There’s Assault for you!

Gametypes that will play the best in BTB Objective:
Big Team Infinity Slayer- This gametype would not be changed.

Big Team CTF- Standard loadouts. No personal ordinance. 3 points to win. 1 flag cap = 1 point.

Big Team Assault- (If this is possible) Standard loadouts. No personal ordinance. 3 points to win. 1 bomb detonation = 1 point. No bomb throwing. Waypoint above bomb carries’ head disabled.

Big Team Extraction- Standard loadouts. No personal ordinance. 3 Extraction objects on the map at once. (A,B,C,D, and E) 1 site extracted = 1 point. 10 points to win.

Big Team KOTH- Standard loadouts. No personal ordinance. each hill is active for 50 seconds. Every second that the team has control of the hil = 1 point. 300 points to win.

By standard loadouts, I mean players can choose between their 5 personal loadouts and the 2 loadouts that 343 provides.

Big Team Battle maps and gametypes. (What I think 343 should add to Big Team Battle)

Meltdown:

  • Infinity Slayer (25%)
  • CTF (25%)
  • Extraction 3 site (25%)
  • Assault (25%)

Ragnarock:

  • Infinity Slayer (60%)
  • CTF (40%)

Longbow:

  • Infinity Slayer (30%)
  • CTF (25%)
  • KOTH (25%)
  • Assault (20%)

Exile:

  • Extraction 3 site (40%)
  • Infinity Slayer (40%)
  • KOTH (20%)

Vortex:

  • Extraction 3 site (45%)
  • Infinity Slayer (35%)
  • KOTH (20%)

Settler:

  • CTF (50%)
  • Assault (30%)
  • Infinity Slayer (20%)

Complex:

  • Extraction 3 site (60%)
  • Infinity Slayer (40%)

*Shatter:

  • Infinity Slayer (40%)
  • CTF (35%)
  • Assault (25%)

*Wreckage:

  • Infinity Slayer (60%)
  • CTF (40%)

*Perdition:

  • CTF (50%)
  • Extraction 3 site (35%)
  • Infinity Slayer (15%)

*Daybreak:

  • Assault (50%)
  • CTF (20%)
  • Infinity Slayer (15%)
  • KOTH (15%)

*Outcast:

  • Assault (34%)
  • CTF (33%)
  • Infinity Slayer (33%)

*DLC Map

IMO, there just needs to be a big team CTF gametype to go along with the big team Infinity Slayer. Combine that into a Big Team Battle (BTB) playlist, though I’d also like to see a big team Regicide included into it to, but the most important addition would be the CTF gametype. War Games

The rest of the objective gametypes are probably better off being for 6v6 or 4v4, with a CTF specific playlist remaining 5v5.

Def won’t objective in BTB.think they said in one of the bulletin that they were working on it.

> Def won’t objective in BTB.think they said in one of the bulletin that they were working on it.

Their “BTB Objective” is now the 6v6 objective playlist…

> > Def won’t objective in BTB.think they said in one of the bulletin that they were working on it.
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> Their “BTB Objective” is now the 6v6 objective playlist…

Precisely, which was an attempt at killing two birds with one stone which failed :confused:

The majority who come here and post were asking for Objective gametypes to be included in the regular Big Team Infinity Slayer playlist with it being renamed to Big Team Battle, but for some reason we were given a 6v6 Objective playlist which ultimately pissed off Objective players.

Having released Castle as 6v6 as well it’s probably about as far as they want to go at this point in time. I would love 8v8 objective myself but 6v6 is fine if that’s how they want it.

> > > Def won’t objective in BTB.think they said in one of the bulletin that they were working on it.
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> > Their “BTB Objective” is now the 6v6 objective playlist…
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> Precisely, which was an attempt at killing two birds with one stone which failed :confused:
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> The majority who come here and post were asking for Objective gametypes to be included in the regular Big Team Infinity Slayer playlist with it being renamed to Big Team Slayer, but for some reason we were given a 6v6 Objective playlist which ultimately pissed off Objective players.

Truth 6v6 obj is not the same as 8v8 obj and its not what people wanted – from what i can tell in MM

BTB ojb and slayer in one BTB playlist YES please

> Having released Castle as 6v6 as well it’s probably about as far as they want to go at this point in time. I would love 8v8 objective myself but 6v6 is fine if that’s how they want it.

But it splits populations just to have that little bit of fine control over the player counts. BTB should be an integrated objective-slayer playlist to pool what few resources matchmaking has as its disposal (ie. us) and to provide the most diverse experience possible within a single playlist to keep it fresh.

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No!

I too would like to see BT Objective game types in one list. However, I do not want to see BTIS (aka Slayer) which is about kills/deaths, being ruined by being mixed in the same list with objective game types. IMO, there should be two lists for Big Team. One being the BTIS a we have it and a new one being BT Objectives.

However, I believe that as it stands, Team Objective being v was 343i attempt at Big Team Objectives! I recall at the time, they said that if it warranted and if enough people wanted it and if it could be done, they might consider changing the 66v to higher.

I believe the BT community misunderstood in so far as they believed that there was going to be Team Objectives and a separate BT Objectives. I understood it to be that Team Objective is the BT Objective play list I might be wrong though. Bravo had also stated previously that 343i were working closely with BigTeamBattle.net to work out an appropriate play list and settings…so,I guess I’ll have to wait and see.

> > READ BEFORE VOTING
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> No!
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> I too would like to see BT Objective game types in one list. However, I do not want to see BTIS (aka Slayer) which is about kills/deaths, being ruined by being mixed in the same list with objective game types. IMO, there should be two lists for Big Team. One being the BTIS a we have it and a new one being BT Objectives.
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> However, I believe that as it stands, Team Objective being v was 343i attempt at Big Team Objectives! I recall at the time, they said that if it warranted and if enough people wanted it and if it could be done, they might consider changing the 66v to higher.
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> I believe the BT community misunderstood in so far as they believed that there was going to be Team Objectives and a separate BT Objectives. I understood it to be that Team Objective is the BT Objective play list I might be wrong though. Bravo had also stated previously that 343i were working closely with BigTeamBattle.net to work out an appropriate play list and settings…so,I guess I’ll have to wait and see.

If you’re suggesting that there be two BTB playlists, a slayer one and an objective one, I’ll tell you right now that the objective one will be the most played. It will be played so much that regular slayer BTB will be one of the least played playlists. Team objective would be nice on small and big maps. So if they add objective to BTB, they can make the 6v6 objective playlists go back down to 4v4.

In a perfect world

LARGE Population
-4v4 slayer
-4v4 objective
-8v8 BTB Slayer
-8v8 BTB Objective
-snipers
-swat
-rumble pit
-multiteam
-action sack
-doubles
-griffball
-Flood
-maybe dominion *they could put it in BTB Objective

> In a perfect world…

That “prefect” world would probably require no Call of Duty, Battlefield, BioShock, FarCry, Crysis, Medal of Honor, etc. or really any triple AAA titles that could compete for a gamer’s extended time on Xbox Live. In that world Halo would be King and dominate everyone’s time online, drawing tons of people to the Xbox over other systems and…

Probably get a million times more hate then it already receives.

> > In a perfect world…
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> That “prefect” world would probably require no Call of Duty, Battlefield, BioShock, FarCry, Crysis, Medal of Honor, etc. or really any triple AAA titles that could compete for a gamer’s extended time on Xbox Live. In that world Halo would be King and dominate everyone’s time online, drawing tons of people to the Xbox over other systems and…
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> Probably get a million times more hate then it already receives.

Well i was mostly referring to the playlist i had in mind.

> In a perfect world
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> LARGE Population
> -4v4 slayer
> -4v4 objective
> -8v8 BTB Slayer
> -8v8 BTB Objective
> -snipers
> -swat
> -rumble pit
> -multiteam
> -action sack
> -doubles
> -griffball
> -Flood
> -maybe dominion *they could put it in BTB Objective

I agree except for 8v8 BTB Slayer and Dominion. 8v8 Slayer and Objective proved to work just fine in the same playlist in previous Halo titles. Also, Dominion is a gametype that deserves its own playlist.

After all this time, I just can’t see why it is so hard to bring objective gametypes to the Big Team Infinity Slayer playlist.

They had 8v8 CTF in all the Youtube videos before the game was released. I feel ripped off they dont have it in the game itself.

CTF, KotH, 2-plot extraction should all be added to BTB and Objective should go back to 5v5.

Yep I’m all for BTB CTF.

> After all this time, I just can’t see why it is so hard to bring objective gametypes to the Big Team Infinity Slayer playlist.

It’s not hard that’s just it. They already have all the spawn points for objective on the maps via forge. It would be very easy to do.

Objective with some new maps and I (and many others) would be exceedingly happy.