Shock coils were removed from Argyle in Ranked. The shotguns were also replaced with pistols, they I’m less concerned about that. I’m worried that the serious gamers will ruin Halo altogether and demand the removal of Repulsors and Grappleshots and anything else fun. Were fun things removed from other maps? We also lost Catalyst in the last update, and I believe the reason is because it was fun. Or was it because there was some severe exploit or something? The last I heard it was because some players didn’t like swords and hammers and grappleshots and stuff.
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Apparently fusion coils were removed from The Pit too 
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I think it’s because it’s hard to predict whether someone has a shock coil and where they’ll throw it.
They’re not serious gamers. They are people who “think” one day they’ll be rich playing a dumb game instead of learning a skill. Because one day games won’t matter and they’ll be clueless. But 343 listening to a bunch of basement dwellers is ridiculous. Why not make two halo games then? One for “pros” where everything is nerfed and only like two weapons work, and one for the vast majority that actually pays for the game. During the beta everything felt great, then the nerfing began as usual because these “pros” were getting mopped up by casuals. If they were so good they wouldn’t get owned.
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alas, some day… nothing will matter
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I have always said they truly need to have a ranked “HCS” 4v4 which is the super competitive settings, like no coils, no power weapons, except sniper rifle, style play… Then have regular ranked with coils, all power weapons ect… Because yes not everyone wants the super competitive play. I play only for fun and that is why I only play fiesta, BTB, and now rumble pit. I don’t bother with any ranked play, it’s just not fun to me.
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The 2022 first place prize was 400,000 dollars.
You’re not gonna’ make that much any time soon and neither will I.
Frankly it’s because the coils are just a free kill.
Do you play ranked?
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I don’t disagree but the Spanker is 2 free kills and it’s accepted just fine. They do spawn a lot more frequently I guess but that could have been changed instead.
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If they’re only removed in Ranked, fine, whatever. If they’re removed in Social too, massive L if 343 can’t just have separate maps for Ranked and Social
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These are ranked changes only.
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I’m rarely the guy to say “if we look at Halo 3”, however the competitive settings in that game aren’t the same as the base settings everyone else plays on.
It’s not up to 343i to fine tune the game to be perfect for the competitive community, it’s up to the competitive community to come together and decide what they want in the game whilst 343i work on making the game enjoyable for the casual audience.
In Halo 3 this was BR starts with 10% extra movement speed. They removed weapons and maps they didn’t like to create the most competitive gamemode possible.
In this case, 343i are removing features from maps which most casuals find fun. Regardless of if it’s a easy kill or not, most people find it enjoyable. Why remove a fun feature? Well, because a few competitive players dislike it and it makes the game less competitive. Why not just remove it from the ranked mode then? Oh yeah, because it’s almost impossible to find a game in the ranked mode because most people aren’t playing for ranked.
Smash Bros did the same by removing items, 90% of the maps and certain techs which were unfun / unfair. The game is still, at its core, designed for casuals to have fun, and yet boasts one of the best competitive scenes out there.
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“RANKED / HCS ONLY” It just for Ranked game modes
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They should have left the shotguns.
I like to play ranked, but it seems they only want it to cater to a select few people.
As I’ve said 1000 times, there are TONS of people who like playing ranked with radar, various different weapons and equipment, environmental hazards, light vehicle play and so on.
Just have a MLG/HCS playlists for the pros/people who want there ultra competitive settings.
Halo 3 did this perfectly!! Halo Infinite should copy this set-up.
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Yes, I play Ranked. So what if coils are a free kill*? So are rockets. I strongly believe that “competitive” settings should not be in any Halo playlist, except if they make an HCS playlist if some people want that. “Ranked” should not mean neutered Halo.
- coils are not a clean free kill. They’re dangerous to hold, they’re dangerous to throw in narrow spaces, and they’re a danger to your teammates. They can be repulsed or grappled. They can be shot while being held. They are a like a more difficult-to-use version of rockets and grenades, and people don’t seem to mind rockets in Ranked.
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There is no fusion coil in previous ranked map. What’s the big deal ?
If you like it that much you always have a social playlist with fusion coils only.
Imo ranked are here to play and think at the same time. Throwing noob stuff or having each member of your team carrying one or two power weapons isn’t what I expect from ranked.
Even if sometimes GA are rudes, some changes vs social modes feel totally ok for me.
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Rocket’s a power weapon and when you fire it, you’re firing it. You can’t exactly set it down as a trap the same way and whatnot. What’s more, the coils were not in contested areas - they were on each base’s side. It just isn’t competitive.
See the above.
Oh that’s funny funny.
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That’s fair but they are evenly distributed so I wouldn’t say it’s uncompetitive.
if its true that pro players are doing this type off suggestions to destroy the fun for the normal players then this can go back fire really hard back to then at some point.
since there only make more and more people that are going to hate the pro players.
also this can back fire wrong to the game it self and the reputation it has left only become worse and worse and then its only harder to restore it back that at some point its better to let go death and let it stay death for good.
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Considering how many times I have gotten the final kill of a match with a hail-mary from a coil, I can see why some would want their unpredictability removed in ranked.
Coils make more sense in Social playlists, due to the fact that they are unwieldy. You can shoot one out of a player’s hand and cause them to blow themselves up as a result.
You can be focusing on a gun-fight and suddenly be insta-killed by a bogoobus throwing a battery at you.
Ranked is more of a skills games, gunplay strategy and skill is desired over more goofy and unpredictable strats.
Makes sense, seeing as Ranked is all about skill; meaning more precision and ranged weapons are favored over weapons like the bulldog which is all about close-quarters advantage and just hitting a target within a big circle.
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