There’s a difference between direct and rude.
For this question, we are going to assume the difference between a pro and averages Controller player is larger than the KBM difference.
Why would we assume this? I’ve seen it argued before that mnk has a higher skill ceiling, if true, the opposite would hold.
And do I think it’s fair? I suppose not. But don’t you agree that if it were balanced around the average player, that it would be more fair for more people? Because if we assume that it can’t be balanced for everyone, then it must be unbalanced for some. In which case, I personally think it’s best to make it fair for the most amount of people.
We were assuming because it was my example. I was not implying that was the actual state of players in the real world, just needed to have an example situation. Hence the “For this question,”
But don’t you agree that if it were balanced around the average player, that it would be more fair for more people?
Yes, it would be better for more people since most people are average but again, this isn’t social, it’s ranked. If it makes sense to leave social type matches unbalanced to provide a better experience for the majority of people, by all means, cater to the masses! Ranked is for those that want to take the game seriously. Ranked caters to the best.
Well the social wouldn’t be unbalanced for the majority if we balanced it for the majority would it? And the average ranked player still isn’t top tier. So the argument I was making still holds for ranked. Balancing for the average player is more fair to more people. I think that’s better personally, but again, you’re free to disagree.
right right . Lets forget halo pc,halo ce and h2v
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Let’s also forget that all games are born on a PC.
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I wanna play golf, but I wanna use a hockey stick because I’m really good at other games that use a hockey stick, and theres a whole community who use hockey sticks in other games so it’s not fair that the golf club has a performance advantage built in over my hockey stick.
This is literally all I’m hearing, just switching out words.
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I said most of the games. But I clarified more in my later posts if you want to read them.
Not surprised that you are hearing only what you want to hear.
Here is the translation. The Golf organization has decided that they would like to bring in new players from Hockey using hockey sticks. The golf organization also wants the golfers to play against the hockey players, not just a separate arena for each but against each other. They have found that golf clubs have an advantage over hockey sticks and the mixed competition isn’t fair. Now they have to decide if they make adjustments to balance the different types or leave the hockey sticks at a disadvantage. The hockey players want it to be fair and the golf club players don’t because their advantage makes them look better.
All the whiney Controller players love to point out that old Halo games were Controller games and somehow that entitles you to an advantage in-game. Halo Infinite IS NOT A CONTROLLER GAME! It is a Crossplay game. Old games have no relevance to the mechanics of this game.
It’s one thing to deny the imbalance, it’s another to defend the imbalance as acceptable. The fact that you defend the game being unbalanced removes any credibility.
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TL;DR
Controller aim assist is stronk. Controller aim assist increases bullet magnetism on target. MKB does not have aim assist. Bullets don’t have the sticky heat seeking that aim assist does.
Two players, one on PC one on console: One on controller, one on MKB: They’re shooting each other from 20 feet away with an AR. PC player misses more bullets (even if reticle is on target, because bullet spread). PC player dies first.
Simple as.
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TLDR; Aim assist is over tuned as usual in order to sell the game.
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With all due respect, but this seems to be an example of “you can’t see the forest because of the trees”.
I too have been working on and gathering data. It still a work in progress. But it’s far simpler and probably even more conclusive.
It started went I was in a BTB match, and my team was getting stomp. I notice that the other team’s top player (will call them Player-X) was having some network issues. At the end of the match Player-X had the most kills of anyone in the match. So, I checked Player-X’s Xbox Profile and discovered that they were playing on, wait for it…, playing on a PC…
OK, let me see if there is a pattern here. So, I continued to play in random matchmaking BTB matches. At the end of the each match, I would identify the player with the highest number of kills. That top player was always on the winning team. I would immediately check to see which platform that player was gaming on. And you guessed it, they were playing on a PC.
I have continued monitor the post-match result. And at this time, I’m still not ready to publish my findings. However, I have played enough BTB matches to have a high degree of confidence to state, that as things stand now, if you want to have the most kills and be on the winning team playing Halo Infinite, play on PC…
To quote RamboBambiBambo:
"TL;DR -
Crossplay bad, let us have the option to toggle it off."
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Would love to see the data. Until then this is just your anecdotal claim. Means nothing.
False. They want to hockey players to play golf, not specifically hockey players who want to use hockey sticks. Your anology falls apart just from that fact.
343 wants PC players to play, not specifically keyboard and mouse. Don’t put your personal peripheral choice as a 343 decision that has wronged your community.
You have a choice what you want to use. Console does too. We can easily pop in a mouse and keyboard just as easy as you. But the best peripheral is the controller for infinite. It just happens to come with the console, funny eh?
As for it’s not an console game, thats a hoot. It’s literally the flagship Xbox title. It was meant to be released with the series S / X…not windows.
Its your credibility that’s shot when you try to frame your community as the only target audience and as such done injustice. Every PC player is welcomed to halo if they want and use whatever they want.
Credibility or not, what I’m saying is play with whatever, Connect with mobile phone if ya want, just don’t expect it to be equal to all other periphals or for 343 to have the responsibility to make it so just because it’s your preference.
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I’m not in this thread to argue design philosophy or balance.
I’m only here to call you dumb.
You’re dumb.
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One could say posting a wall of text with a lot of numbers is just “anecdotal”. I mean, sure we can go into the minutiae about the biological discrepancy of the eye-hand coordination in the “top 20 Onyx players” via mouse and keyboard versus controller. But there are bigger issues affecting everyone playing Halo Infinite. Like the cheating problem on PC, where 99% of the KBM players are…
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At least insult me with something you didn’t hear from Billy Madison
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Imagine thinking you had your gotcha moment and not realizing that the entire comment is the Billy Madison not just the last line. {Laughing Emoji}
Call me lazy to quote your whole plagiarized insult.
Just pointing out that it’s considered winning an argument when the other person starts to throw insults rather than making points.
@ZeroSine2760 " What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
Not good… Maybe I suggest you take another look at the Forum Rules & Guidelines.
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Nah let him sink his own ship
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