Settling the Controller vs KBM debate with data

Did you even read the comments on that thread? There are more comments of people in favor of Crossplay than against it and those that are against it all call out KBM specifically because they believed it would have an advantage. There were only 100 total replies to the thread and it does not show what you claim it shows. In fact, many comments in that post said they are fine with PC if they played on Controller so again, it is just your opinion.

Move on!

Don’t forget this one…

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHalo/comments/ra2bov/where_are_the_pc_players_in_competitive_halo/

man thinks every person on kbm is a god like the rest of his online ā€œfriendsā€

Compared to other Halos the aim assist for controllers needs to be buffed. It feels like a lot of console players have been shafted just to accommodate the PC crowd.

I would not mind if kbm got stronger pull. And lets be real, look at this post and tell me that PC players are not crying like babies.

Calm down. English is not everyone’s first language. At least he’s using full words instead of ā€œuā€ ā€œurā€ and other uneducated phrases.

Not saying you’re dumb, but don’t go telling people to get educated when you use uneducated words.

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yea
but there is a diffrend in that thread.
there accept it if it become’s a option to turn on and off.
but sadly we have that option not so people are against it now to crossplay since its force so thats the problem more.
a lot give no crap about the crossplay system at all but the part its force is something a lot off people hate.
i give also no crap about the crossplay system at all but the force part from the crossplay system is something a lot off people hate about the system.

thats how to console players think about the KBM the same what the pc players think about the console players more with there elite controlers.
its not only in the halo game’s people think about that its also in other game’s that has crossplay people think that the KBM is to advantage.
thats why its pointless to show data at all since there not going to chance there mind about it.

and its what hard to read old threads like that since its a compleet mess more with the quote’s there since there replace the old forum with a new one so.

if you read good there are people that not wane see crossplay at all in matchmaking at all since there not wane play with the PC players at all.
there not care if its in custon game’s Forge or Co-Op campaign but not for matchmaking.

make crossplay a option and the discusion crap about KBM vs Controler is also going to stop.
and for the once that not understand how crossplay works its between platforms and not what for input you use.

Not my words, but let this sink in…

ā€œHalo will never be a top tier esport if it’s predominantly controller. It’s like a bike race with training wheels or bowling competition with the bumpers up or basketball league with 7 foot rims.ā€

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Hay 343 team you can end this dum Controller vs KBM war by telling us the truth using your game data. Because these guy’s are never going to agree on anything.

Or… just give us crossplay options and don’t hurt the feelings of the Pc or Xbox guys. But hay what do i know.

thats something we have told then 4 years ago all to then and look there have not done it.
and still crossplay needs to become a option for sure since most off the xbox players not wane play against PC players since there have a high risk level off cheaters so there fix that problem also at the same time to make crossplay a option to turn off.

back to the imaginary cheater claim

yea yea we all know that you think that crossplay is broken and needs to be fix and that make it a option to turn on/off is the lazy solution.
and we also know you wane see more that there bring a good anti cheat software then chance the crossplay system from force to option.
and we also know that you never have use any cheats in the multiplayer at all.

the one thing you forgot to see is more i have never told that all the PC players are cheaters thats something i have never told.
i know there are also some PC players that play legaal the game without any cheat’s to win so its suxs more for the legaal PC players that there are some people that need to use cheats to win give the PC platform more a bad reputation in the general point.

it definitely does need a buff on older generation xbox one consoles. I agree with u there. But on the xbox series s and x and pc, there is a need for a nerf. Its strong like strong as cod and apex. Apex doesnt matter because its weapon sandbox supports kbm and the maps r large.

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Dude are you playing on the series x? The aim assist is weak AF. I feel like im playing splitgate

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dude the series x has the same amount of aim assist as it is on pc, even could be stronger with some people it to be. It might feel strong to me because i have gone on without aim assist for more than 2 years now. But personally i feel its very strong. This is someone who has intially played on controller for the first 6 years of gaming. Try kbm and controller. There is a very substantial difference in ease of aiming. We can definitely talk in dms too if u think my opinions may differ from urs.

Tired of playing with controller users and these BS tournaments put on from money made from shop purchases. The pleb console pros can have their sorry little series but don’t force people who rely on actual skill to play with people who need a handicap to feel special. I want to see these ā€œprosā€ at these ā€œtournamentsā€ actually play on keyboard and mouse. The pros are pathetic handicappers who call themselves gods. 343 said they designed this game as a PC game but force us to play with aim assist plebs. Crossplay needs to be an option to opt into. I want to play against and with people of skill not daddy aim assist holding their joysticks for them and guiding them.

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do you really think the pro’s going to switch from controler to K&M to see how it feels when there are been playing for a long time with the controler.

you forgot that halo has been focus only on the Xbox console’s and that since the orginal halo 2 the last time it was release also on PC and that was 18 years ago.
after that it was only playable on the Xbox console’s.
and from my part there most keep doing that and keep stoping with release it on the PC platform also.

and if you wane play against only K&B players then there need to add a crossplay input system that let you choose against what for input you wane play against and with.
end sadly there maybe not going to add that same with the platform crossplay what the console players wane see chance also from force to option what is maybe also not going to happing at all.

so if you hate it or love it you still need to deal it with it like the rest off us if you like it or not.

Are you gunna cry? I do agree with crossplay needing an option to be turned off as well as input setting options too. If 8 year old mcc has these, then why cant infinite?

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Given the pandemic and the rise in PC builders and gamers I feel there is a solid platform for just PC gamer lobbies. Crossplay should be optional for playing with friends on console. It should not be forced on a community, it should be a simple toggle and that is all I want and it should be easy enough to do. AIM assist in Halo is significantly stronger than other console shooters and that is why it needs to be changed.

you compleet missed the point more about it really.
Crossplay we have now is between Platform has notting to do with the imput we are using.
the crossplay between platforms most never become force thats something you have a good point on.
but it will still not fix the Controler VS KBM discusion crap at all.
to stop that type discusion there most also add a crossplay system for the imput’s we are using.
that means you can choost with the crossplay imput system that you can choose between: Controlers only. KBM only or play with Both controler and KBM.

this is really a compleet joke more you are telling.
a lot and then i mean really a lot off players are telling that the aim assist is weaker then the older halo game’s.
since day one off the release off this game the comunity has complain that the aim assist is to weak and need to become stronger again.

and chance the aim assist in halo is now only make things more and more worse then doing good.
and it will still not stop this stupid discusion at all since in general what all PC players most wane see is that the aim assist for the controlers is going to be remove at all.

Here we go again. It’s the weakest? Needs to be stronger? Wow.

By controller standards yeah.

It’s not like it’s not true. That part is true. It’s the other stuff that becomes subjective like ā€œis it strong enough?ā€ or ā€œis it fair?ā€