Why do people seem to forget that this is not the first Halo that’s been on PC. Also, there have been no PC players asking for Halo, 343 announced that it would be launched on both Xbox and PC day one.
Totally get it and I don’t know how many times I have to repeat that I am in favor of separate game modes with crossplay being optional. That is the part I can’t understand with most of this argument. Why can’t we agree to:
Yes create separate game modes AND yes try and improve the balance in the crossplay game mode? Especially when I keep repeating that they should try to balance it with KBM changes that won’t affect Controller at all.
Truth be told, I been asking for Halo on PC. Halo has always been one of my favorite single player experiences and I’ve been missing that since switching way back when.
Yeah, I get that but have you publicly said you want Halo Infinite on PC (before they announced it would be)? I don’t recall the PC community flooding forums asking for Halo Infinite to come to PC.
Even if they did, 343i didn’t releases it on PC because of that.
Yeah, I said it publicly, whenever I’d remember. Random tweets and stuff, random mentions in comments various places. No concerted effort for sure. And TBH, I’m glad they’re here.
Fair enough, then. Do you think they released it because you tweeted you wanted it on PC?
No, it was always their plan. It’s Phil Spencer’s plan, it’s part of the service he’s building.
and your idea is also no solution.
and please read all the Crossplay threads and cheating threads again then you see there all wane see that option more to fix the problems more.
crossplay is good between console’s only without pc’s.
and it seems i am now more repating it again what i told you in the last post that you not have read from yesterday.
since if you read that good then you know what is broken in general more from the crossplay.
i am not going tell this again since i cant count any more how many time’s you told this crap again when you know my answer about this point.
I see no other conclusion can be made. Clearly it was me. 
Clearly, and 343i sent out a message to all Xbox players asking if it was ok, too.
343 forgot to put aim assist on the controller-based text input they used for the message requesting permission, so no users actually finished providing permission before 343 just decided to honor my request. Sad turn of events.
Plenty of solutions have been suggested.
Reduce bloom for KBM players - Hyper Lethal’s idea
Increase bullet magnetism to assist mouse aim to get it closer to the aim assistance on controllers
Reduce AA effectiveness
Reduce AA range
Reduce Controller BM
Personally, I want to see KBM buffed so it doesn’t negatively affect controller. You ignoring presented solutions or not liking them doesn’t erase their existence.
Oh, I’ve read them. 99% are unsubstantiated claims with no evidence of actual cheating.
100% your opinion and conjecture. Just because you don’t want PC KBM Crossplay doesn’t not mean others don’t. Again, the world does not revolve around you. If you have no interest in Crossplay, stop commenting.
You are the one that said you don’t play crossplay so you have never faced a cheater. You are making a claim for something you have not experienced and making it look like it is some huge problem despite you quite literally never having experienced it. You have a bias that PC players cheat. Thats it. Come back when you actually face a cheater.
Im not trying to be mean but i think it comes down to you and your delivery.
Your arguement has come across as leave crossplay forced and as a last resort turn it to optional.
Were the majority are fine with tweaking balance but want the option first.
Again not being mean these are two different stratagies.which have different effects. I may be wrong but that is the interpretation of your message
That’s fair. It is hard to see full context when it is separated into multiple comment responses, and admittedly, not reclarified when responding the each of the comments calling for separate modes as the solution.
I don’t just want to get my way. I want the best everyone wins solution. As of now, that looks like:
Enabling separate game modes so you can play Controller only, KBM only or Crossplay depending on your preference.
For Crossplay specifically, 343 investigates and tests ways to balance the inputs starting with KBM buffs so those that do want to play Crossplay have a fair experience and ideally does so without negatively impacting controller players. That said, I still don’t get the hysteria over minor nerfs for balance corrections. It is extremely common for games to do this and having a slightly less forgiving shot is not a game-breaking experience.
i have face a lot off cheaters in other game’s.
since i play also MMORPG game’s and there have also a high number off cheaters only there are diffrend since there not use aim bots since its pointless there more.
since there use more macro cheats more to spam the chat channel full a lot.
or there use AOE cheats more.
and that type cheaters i have face a lot to become more sick off then.
and like i told 4 years ago all with a lot off other people.
crossplay + F2P is the worst combo there is since its asking for cheaters to come.
i not going to stop commenting about it if you not like it then deal with it.
if its not good solution in your eye’s then its for a lot off other players the best one there is.
so far i see more in your wold we all most accept force crossplay and its broken more and it needs to be fix now.
when in the real wold its been broken all long before this game was in development was it all broken more.
when crossplay become’s a option you fix a lot off problems this game has at the same time.
and let me tell you this also.
when there fix the problems like the cheating problem with a anti cheat software then its going to be fun to read the threads when its going to fail hard and people start to complain its not working the anti cheat software that there have fail with it.
same if there chance the controler vs KBM then i cant wait for the complain threads from the controler players more since its going to be fun then to read then that there not like it at all the chance.
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I agree with you minor nerfs may and should be implemented if a larger data set supports. Having seperated fields allows this to not feel like the wild wild west as you have the option of playing in a fair field if you so choose to wish.
My only concern with nerfs is as seen in other games drastic changes. I have thumb and wrist mobility issues so take a while to adjust and my gameplay reflects that i play melee heavywith shocking accuracy. I would much rather go the buff mnk route.
Aslong as inclusion is thought out as we are getting to a point where gaming is for everyone and this halo is the hardest at of all of them for mobility and visual impairment (skins being introduced not solid colour).
Most arenon the sameish page just communication is turning hostile.
I admit i have responded to you in a unsuitable manner and for that i apologies
Great. That has no bearing on this game.
I don’t know how many times I have to repeat this for you to get it. I AGREE WITH SEPARATE GAME MODES! Does it fix Crossplay? No.
I agree, create separate game modes. Your point has been noted and your WORKAROUND should be implemented.
Now let the rest of us discuss Crossplay knowing that we support your separate game mode WORKAROND.
We will see. Again, there are extremely limited reports of ACTUAL cheating in Halo Infinite. Sure, it happens but it is not anywhere near the rampancy that you are trying to make it sound like is happening.
To be clear, I’m not telling you to stop commenting because your opinion isn’t worth sharing. I’m telling you to stop commenting because your opinion has been addressed and AGREED WITH repeatedly as a good WORKAROUND to make people happy OUTSIDE OF fixing the Crossplay problem.
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ow really.
i have see a lot off halo game play clips where players use cheats in it.
and the most are aim bots and wall hacks clips off the multiplayer.
that somebody with a sniper rilfe gets easy No scope’s and headshots at the same time a lot.
and if you not belive me then look on youtube to the singlehaloclips from matchmaking you see there also add cheaters in there Compilation Videos from multiplayer so yea if you not wane belive it then watch then.
so far there are 6 video’s that show cheaters use in halo infinite multiplayer.
for some reason you think i agree with that more.
since i told notting about create separate game modes.
if you going do that then wow i can give a long list off the idea’s other people also wane see become a separate game mode more.
like a big team slayer playlist with no objectives in it.
big team objectives with no slayer game type.
classic game type’s.
team slayer.
team objectives
i can keep going on since the list on that point can become long more with request’s people have more.
then stop with the crap about that i not have face a cheater in game’s.
and about halo infinite multiplayer i going tell it again sadly.
to face a cheater in multiplayer you need in the first place play the multiplayer game’s.
and since i not have play the multiplayer mode yet i cant not face any cheaters in halo infinite.
since its something that a lot off people have see comming a few years ago all that the worst case is going to happing.
Infinte has had 20 million players. It peaked at 270,000 concurrent players. We can use an even lower number and say it is now down to 200,000 concurrent players. Even if 100 examples of cheaters were caught on video and we say each 100 was a different player that is 0.05% of players caught cheating.
I don’t mean this to be rude but is English not your first language? You want Crossplay to be optional. That means you want a Controller only game mode and a KBM only game mode with the option to play Crossplay. That is exactly what I am saying when I say separate game modes. I am literally agreeing with you and you keep arguing with me.
I have understood this from the first time you said it. You aren’t understanding what I am saying. You are assuming the worst despite not playing it. Your assumptions are not correct. Crossplay is not overrun by cheaters. What you are claiming to be the Crossplay experience is not the Crossplay experience. Yes, there are cheaters but they are few and far between. It is not the problem you are claiming it is.
No. The possibility of something happening does not mean the worst case will happen. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are making wild assumptions about something you admit you haven’t even played.
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Regardless of your intention, your posts come across as “my way or the highway”.
Whether or not they buff mnk, they need a crossplay toggle before any balancing tweaks go into effect.
Coming from the person that said NO to balancing the game inputs by leaving control alone and only making changes to KBM, your opinion means very little.
Not really. I agree that the separate game modes are good but they are in no way a prerequisite to fix a currently broken system. People clearly want separate game modes and you will hear no disagreement from me but they don’t need a toggle to buff KBM and fix the imbalance. They need the toggle to satifiy a separate ask from the community, not to fix Crossplay. All they need to fix Crossplay is effort and testing.
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