Why should I have to go through this? Crossplay is a stupid stupid trend that erked itself into the competitive scene and has people like you thinking it’s can be balanced.
Like why you all just leave things alone? Stop trying to fix what isn’t broken. Crossplay was a way for friends to play together. Not for pros to compete against one another. It was a casuals way to play with friends on other platforms.
I have a right to speak for myself in situations like this. Almost every topic like this has ended in “let’s nerf controller.” I have a reason to think the way I do.
Leave it at that.
And please stop moral grandstanding. This isn’t reddit.
You don’t have to go through this. Your responses painted this picture. If you want to stop causing yourself pain. Stop talking. You are the one who was against balance until we offered a specific scenario where your experience wasn’t affected. Your responses told us your position.
We get it, you don’t like crossplay. Good for you. Many of us love the idea. Again, this all comes down to what is best for HyperLethal and if HyperLethal doesn’t like it, it is a bad thing.
Just because you don’t have the skill or creativity to comprehend ways to fix the balance, doesn’t mean it can’t be done.
“Stop trying to fix what isn’t broken” It is broken! If it wasn’t intended to be used for competitive play why is the primary competitive mode Crossplay? You are completely oblivious to reality.
Using presupposed judgment is no way to approach any conversation. I don’t care even a little bit what someone else said in a different post. What I said is not “let’s nerf controllers.”
@ZeroSine2760 do you think the two cam be 100% balanced. This is a nice and easy question. Where two equally skilled players in every possible situation would produce equal results
And we arent saying remove crossplay make it an option nobody loses out and everything is by your choice
Nobody’s asking for 100% balance. But if you think what we have right now is even close to balance then you have no clue.
Also, removing crossplay doesn’t solve the issue of KBM vs controller. Might solve whatever issue you have with PC vs console, but a lot of PC players still use controller.
While crossplay is definitely a way to play together with friends, it’s also definitely not good for something to be unfun when it’s not balanced well, which is basically the state we’re in now - it’s not fun when input type weighs on outcomes. My friend group has stopped playing Infinite over it. Crossplay should be optional, agree 100%, but the balance should be there for those who do play crossplay. Leaving it unbalanced isn’t the right way to go on this, IMO.
I think this is part of why the Steam numbers for the game are so bad, but the Xbox numbers are strong - 343 just hasn’t balanced it well enough to keep people from being at an unfair disadvantage. It’s a systemic issue, one entirely within their control, and an issue that can and should be mitigated. It should not be inherent to crossplay for there to be any one input with a systemic advantage.
100% balance can theoretically be achieved, given 100% equality between user skills on the respective inputs. However, that result is unlikely in reality. Technically possible, but unlikely to occur. However, IMO, it just needs to be better balanced than it currently is.
100%? Probably not. There will always be situational play that will prevent a PERFECT balance. Can we get it WAY closer than it is now? Absolutely!
I have already said multiple times that I fully support a 3 mode game. Crossplay for those that want both inputs and Controller only and KBM only for those that want to stay in their input type. Personally, I don’t care if they separate the social game modes because they shouldn’t be taken to seriously anyway but definitely for ranked play.
Then we want the same thing. Aim assist can be tweaked as those of us who dont agree with crossplay due to the inherent advantages og BOTH systems can have a fair game
I have no care for ranked social needs the option as i purely play fiesta it can be night and day with the advantages of both
Majority of the playlists have crossplay enabled. If this wasn’t the case, you’d most definitely see the keyboard population beef up a bit since they’re not forced into controller matches.
Fairest but laziest. It boggles my mind how quickly people resort to just segregating the population over trying literally anything to improve the cross-input functionality. 343 could do what every other game does and make a PTR server to test crossplay tweaks to balance the game mode then make a general release when it is dialed in.
Kiddo, I presented that solution as an option like 15 times already. Again, SOOOOOO out of your depth here. Please just stop talking.
In fact, I presented this solution to you in a previous comment but you clearly ignored it. " It may be best to buff KBM BM or any other change to buff KBM that will not negatively affect the Controller experience."