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We don’t need any more threads “explaining” the importance of proper skill-based matchmaking/visible ranks, do we?

We get it folks: you like it, and it’s important to everyone. Making threads about it isn’t going to change anything. Especially now that the game is already gold and on it’s way out the door(s). Stop making these threads, please, and instead discuss the system that is in Halo 4 instead! Or better yet, discuss something that hasn’t been beaten to death already 1000 times over!

Every day, a thread about “visible rank” is created, or revived, and the same exact things are always said. What do people think this is accomplishing? Nothing ever gets done in these threads, besides bickering between the so-called “competitive” gamers and whatever they consider the rest of the Halo community to be (e.g. people who apparently don’t matter, even though they’re the majority of the population, not the “competitive” players, but I digress). That serves no purpose, and only stands to get people worked up.

343i has talked to pros, competitive gamers, to hardcore Halo fans of all walks of life, and they’re doing what they think is best to please everyone at least a little. No one group is going to get 100% what they want; that’s not how this works. If you have any delusions to the contrary, you’re just kidding yourself. And this notion that “343i has done NOTHING for competitive gamers with Halo 4” is absolutely ridiculous at best.

  • No bloom
  • More balanced AA’s
  • Bleedthrough
  • No more OP nades
  • Brought back BR
  • Better designed maps
  • Ridiculously intricate/plentiful customization options (including ability to use map-specific weapon spawn system, a la classic, if you choose)

I could go on, but I won’t. It’s just really getting old to see all the “Here’s why skill-based rank is important” topics day after day… after day. We get it; who do you think you’re “informing”? We all know, and those who don’t know probably couldn’t care less. Save yourself some time and talk about something that other people might actually enjoy talking about, rather than something that is overtly repetitive and is likely going to invoke a riot amongst the community.

There’s one thing we all have in common here, and that’s the fact that we love to play Halo. Let’s focus on that, and on keeping an open mind with things that we haven’t even tried yet (e.g. Halo 4’s skill-based matchmaking, which it is confirmed to be skill-based in some way now), and not just trying to predict the game’s downfall or focus only on it’s potential flaws… at least until the game is out and we’ve all played it in it’s true test: online multiplayer with the ENTIRE community contributing.

So in that spirit, and in a really long, roundabout way, I propose a topic: <mark>What playlist will you try first in Halo 4, and what do you think you’l end up playing the most over time?</mark>

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You are not helping (and neither am i for bumping the thread i guess)

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Threads explaining why threads about the ranking system aren’t needed are less useful than the threads about the ranking system lol

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Well, I am just going to ignore that giant rant and answer the question highlighted in yellow. Most likely the same old rumble pit or team slayer, and some BTB when I feel like having some big battles with vehicles. Although, Dominion looks fun.

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> Threads explaining why threads about the ranking system aren’t needed are less useful than the threads about the ranking system lol

Neither is ignoring the fact that my thread has an underlying, completely separate topic in favor of making a snarky reply.

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> > Threads explaining why threads about the ranking system aren’t needed are less useful than the threads about the ranking system lol
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> Neither is ignoring the fact that my thread has an underlying, completely separate topic in favor of making a snarky reply.

Oh sorry. What playlist will I be playing at the beginning? Slayer Pro and SWAT.

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> Threads explaining why threads about the ranking system aren’t needed are less useful than the threads about the ranking system lol

Typically somebody makes a post like this… which is counter productive of you thinking his post is counterproductive… ((((Shrugs))))

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> Well, I am just going to ignore that giant rant and answer the question highlighted in yellow. Most likely the same old rumble pit or team slayer, and some BTB when I feel like having some big battles with vehicles. Although, Dominion looks fun.

A) Thank you for not arguing the rant portion; it was meant more as a “come on people, we’re better than this” statement rather than a topic of discussion in an of itself.

B) I agree, Dominion looks interesting. I’m not a big objective playlist player, but I’ve recently started liking territories a bit more, and Dominion seems to be a mash-up of that with some other elements, some of them new. I personally will be giving that some attention, as well as SWAT, since I do enjoy that from time to time and the addition of the BR/DMR dynamic might make things a bit more interesting and less repetitive.

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> > > Threads explaining why threads about the ranking system aren’t needed are less useful than the threads about the ranking system lol
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> > Neither is ignoring the fact that my thread has an underlying, completely separate topic in favor of making a snarky reply.
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> Oh sorry. What playlist will I be playing at the beginning? Slayer Pro and SWAT.

Ah yes, I forgot about Slayer Pro. That seems to be the “aka Halo 3” playlist, more geared towards classic competitive Halo 3; Preset loadouts, equal footing, no AA’s, increased speed, etc. I definitely will likely spend most of my time in Slayer Pro and SWAT, with the occasional Grifball distraction, now because of ball tossing, it seems less repetitive and more skill/strategy based than it used to be while still being more mindless fun as compared to standard Halo fare.

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> > > > Threads explaining why threads about the ranking system aren’t needed are less useful than the threads about the ranking system lol
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> > > Neither is ignoring the fact that my thread has an underlying, completely separate topic in favor of making a snarky reply.
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> > Oh sorry. What playlist will I be playing at the beginning? Slayer Pro and SWAT.
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> Ah yes, I forgot about Slayer Pro. That seems to be the “aka Halo 3” playlist, more geared towards classic competitive Halo 3; Preset loadouts, equal footing, no AA’s, increased speed, etc. I definitely will likely spend most of my time in Slayer Pro and SWAT, with the occasional Grifball distraction, now because of ball tossing, it seems less repetitive and more skill/strategy based than it used to be while still being more mindless fun as compared to standard Halo fare.

Yeah I’ll definitely be checking out all the gametypes because Dominion sounds cool as well. I’m terrible at COD so whenever I play with friends I insist we play the bombing bases one LOL, which is the only COD playlist I find enjoyable. This looks like it’ll make it even better Halo style.

Grifball… we’ll see. Reach’s Grifball is one of the laggiest playlists for me and is filled with betrayals. I might check it out because of the oddball throwing but I doubt I’ll spend much time with it.

I’m also really hoping to see CTF SWAT make a comeback, especially with the Flagnum in place. CTF is one of my favourite gametypes but felt too slow in Reach. I only enjoyed it in MLG and BTB because it was faster paced with flag juggling and vehicles.

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> You are not helping (and neither am i for bumping the thread i guess)

You post is counter productive to your thought of him being counter productive. It’s a circular conversation that is just as much a waste of time as me commenting on it. So make a different argument… or maybe do not post at all. ((((Shrugs))))

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Edited by Moderator - Please do not flame/attack others.

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Most competitive players piss me off alot. They think there better than the “casual” players. I mean so what we play for fun and its a VIRTUAL game for gods sakes. Anyways in reality these so called “competitive” players are just obese people with no social lifes who try to act tough in video games because they cant actually go outside and play some real competitive stuff like football,soccer, or baseball.

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lol ok

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> > > > > Threads explaining why threads about the ranking system aren’t needed are less useful than the threads about the ranking system lol
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> > > > Neither is ignoring the fact that my thread has an underlying, completely separate topic in favor of making a snarky reply.
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> > > Oh sorry. What playlist will I be playing at the beginning? Slayer Pro and SWAT.
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> > Ah yes, I forgot about Slayer Pro. That seems to be the “aka Halo 3” playlist, more geared towards classic competitive Halo 3; Preset loadouts, equal footing, no AA’s, increased speed, etc. I definitely will likely spend most of my time in Slayer Pro and SWAT, with the occasional Grifball distraction, now because of ball tossing, it seems less repetitive and more skill/strategy based than it used to be while still being more mindless fun as compared to standard Halo fare.
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> Yeah I’ll definitely be checking out all the gametypes because Dominion sounds cool as well. I’m terrible at COD so whenever I play with friends I insist we play the bombing bases one LOL, which is the only COD playlist I find enjoyable. This looks like it’ll make it even better Halo style.
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> Grifball… we’ll see. Reach’s Grifball is one of the laggiest playlists for me and is filled with betrayals. I might check it out because of the oddball throwing but I doubt I’ll spend much time with it.
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> I’m also really hoping to see CTF SWAT make a comeback, especially with the Flagnum in place. CTF is one of my favourite gametypes but felt too slow in Reach. I only enjoyed it in MLG and BTB because it was faster paced with flag juggling and vehicles.

SWAT CTF sounds fun; never played it myself. I’d give it a go if it makes a comeback.

Grifball, by the way, is said to be improved as far as lagging and “host-favouring” goes, according to the 343 dev in Bravo’s recent “competitive” video breakdown. It’s supposedly much more balanced and less annoying to play due to no longer favouring the host (or at least, not nearly as much).

The same can then be said about SWAT, too, I’d imagine, as Reach’s SWAT is ridiculously favourable to host. All game types are, really, but in a 1-shot kill playlist like SWAT, it’s much, much more the cast of host-favouring.

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Sorry, but this very well could have been posted in those threads that you so adamantly despise. This was pretty much unnecessary.

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lol… It’s a tad harsh but I do understand his point… :=)

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You must not watch MLG nor follow the players very closely. The only one that can really be considered as over weight is BestMan. Most are scrawny. Wouldn’t know anything bout their social life, but must not be too bad.

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> Sorry, but this very well could have been posted in those threads that you so adamantly despise. This was pretty much unnecessary.

  1. You obviously didn’t read the entire post; specifically, the last part.

  2. I would have had to re-post my thoughts to each thread (current/present, and future) to be as effective as it’s own standalone thread. That would be terribly inefficient.

  3. Your comment was just as, if not more so unnecessary as you claim my thread to be. Again: not terribly efficient (or logical).

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> > Sorry, but this very well could have been posted in those threads that you so adamantly despise. This was pretty much unnecessary.
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> 1) You obviously didn’t read the entire post; specifically, the last part.
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> 2) I would have had to re-post my thoughts to each thread (current/present, and future) to be as effective as it’s own standalone thread. That would be terribly inefficient.
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> 3) Your comment was just as, if not more so unnecessary as you claim my thread to be. Again: not terribly efficient (or logical).

I guess that makes us both illogical and terribly inefficient. High five.

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I’m not here to cast judgement on any specific type of player, nor is that the purpose of this thread OR my “rant”. I am simply trying to foster more constructive, enjoyable conversation as opposed to beating a topic to death that really will not stand to change anything or add anything new to what we already know. Your post, on the other hand, shares none of that intent. Please keep that kind of attitude out of this thread.