I think 343 is honestly using Halo 4 as a “test” for Halo 5.
See what things work and what don’t, then refine based upon what they got.
Put simply and with a non exhaustive list, 343i has tried to milk the profits of another FPS by implementing many of its features to draw their audience in a quick money grab despite halo being as successful as it has been over the last 11 years.
Halo was the last of the competitive “Arena” shooters, see link below.
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst117020_What-is-an-Arena-shooter.aspx
I foresee if not halo 5 definately halo 6 will see the complete transition from “Arena” shooter to “Class” based shooter in an attempt to cater for all the casual gamers.
My list of gripes with the game
- De-scoping, my number one gripe with this game that would bring me back to it
- Disgusting weapon balance
- OP loadout weapons
- Map design is awful
- Vehicles nerfed to uselessness
- Jetpack
- Instant respawn
- Bullet magnetism, may aswell bring back rev sniping too.
- Kill cams, pfft what a waste of programming cos they dont even work
- Team snipers, radar, kill cam and no snipers pro!
- No objective BTB
- One shot kill precision weapons (binary rifle)
- DMR, extended range, useless bloom
- Slowing down when shot
- Did i mention de-scoping??
And that is barely even a fraction of whats wrong.
But all this is just my opinion, and now for the whirlwind of abuse from the fanboys!
> Put simply and with a non exhaustive list, 343i has tried to milk the profits of another FPS by implementing many of its features to draw their audience in a quick money grab despite halo being as successful as it has been over the last 11 years.
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> Halo was the last of the competitive “Arena” shooters, see link below.
>
> https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst117020_What-is-an-Arena-shooter.aspx
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> I foresee if not halo 5 definately halo 6 will see the complete transition from “Arena” shooter to “Class” based shooter in an attempt to cater for all the casual gamers.
>
> My list of gripes with the game
>
> - De-scoping, my number one gripe with this game that would bring me back to it
> - Disgusting weapon balance
> - OP loadout weapons
> - Map design is awful
> - Vehicles nerfed to uselessness
> - Jetpack
> - Instant respawn
> - Bullet magnetism, may aswell bring back rev sniping too.
> - Kill cams, pfft what a waste of programming cos they dont even work
> - Team snipers, radar, kill cam and no snipers pro!
> - No objective BTB
> - One shot kill precision weapons (binary rifle)
> - DMR, extended range, useless bloom
> - Slowing down when shot
> - Did i mention de-scoping??
>
> And that is barely even a fraction of whats wrong.
>
> But all this is just my opinion, and now for the whirlwind of abuse from the fanboys!
Not going to abuse, you have some good points but generally you don’t know what you are talking about!
What is wrong with Halo 4:
Instant respawn; Why do I get cleaned up by the guy I just killed? Removes a lot of strategy from the game, and staying alive doesn’t matter, as it takes 8 seconds for your shield to recharge and 1 sec. to respawn.
No competitive ranking system: Who cares if you lose, unless you’re a stat who**, you get XP for each game, and the victory only gets you 750, I’m already SR-130, and haven’t played in a week because it’s boring.
DMR, boltshot; DMR ruins map movement, people can just sit back with ammo and a DMR and pick people off. Boltshot ruins close range, people just sit in corners and look at the raider and immediately switch to their boltshot.
I would write more, but I’m tired. Goodnight.
EDIT: Oh, and the lack of small sized maps. Seriously? Harvest for 4v4 TS? It’s like , bigger than Valhalla. We need more small sized maps like guardian, the pit, construct, etc. But that probably wouldn’t work with instant respawn anyways…
> > Put simply and with a non exhaustive list, 343i has tried to milk the profits of another FPS by implementing many of its features to draw their audience in a quick money grab despite halo being as successful as it has been over the last 11 years.
> >
> > Halo was the last of the competitive “Arena” shooters, see link below.
> >
> > https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst117020_What-is-an-Arena-shooter.aspx
> >
> > I foresee if not halo 5 definately halo 6 will see the complete transition from “Arena” shooter to “Class” based shooter in an attempt to cater for all the casual gamers.
> >
> > My list of gripes with the game
> >
> > - De-scoping, my number one gripe with this game that would bring me back to it
> > - Disgusting weapon balance
> > - OP loadout weapons
> > - Map design is awful
> > - Vehicles nerfed to uselessness
> > - Jetpack
> > - Instant respawn
> > - Bullet magnetism, may aswell bring back rev sniping too.
> > - Kill cams, pfft what a waste of programming cos they dont even work
> > - Team snipers, radar, kill cam and no snipers pro!
> > - No objective BTB
> > - One shot kill precision weapons (binary rifle)
> > - DMR, extended range, useless bloom
> > - Slowing down when shot
> > - Did i mention de-scoping??
> >
> > And that is barely even a fraction of whats wrong.
> >
> > But all this is just my opinion, and now for the whirlwind of abuse from the fanboys!
>
> Not going to abuse, you have some good points but generally you don’t know what you are talking about!
Oops! i almost forgot one more that halo has never ever been about.
- individually focused game play
And do please tell where i dont know what im talking about??
> How about 343 give us Halo 1 with its Original Multiplayer but make it Xbox live capable, then Give us Halo 2 with its multiplayer back and all Halo players just play their respected preferred games.
That’s what i’m saying, in HALO 2 Anniversary, give them the h2 mm back, with those maps. But Halo 1 didn’t have online mm, as it was a launch title, and live didn’t start till a year later.
I will retract the statement that you don’t know what your talking about but you are massively going over the top about the game! There are problems, they are not game breaking, the game is brilliant and will get better!
It’s an alright game, they changed too much, and sold an unfinished game with not even an apology.
Their fixes broke again, many broken aspects to forge and general MP. Too much host advantage with projectile weapons, LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG, imbalanced AA’s and loadouts.
> It’s an alright game, they changed too much, and sold an unfinished game with not even an apology.
>
> Their fixes broke again, many broken aspects to forge and general MP. Too much host advantage with projectile weapons, LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG, imbalanced AA’s and loadouts.
First one to spot the real problem, imo. Lag is everything.
Getting real servers and also adding the “good connection”, or at least separate the world in different leagues/realms/continents/whatever to get rid of the “host is from the other side of the world”-problem is KEY to this game (and future Halo).
holy -Yoink- why do people still say this is their very first game?
they didnt pick people straight out of school to come work on their flagship franchise
how stupid can you be
343 is made up if industry vets
and a ton of them are from EA…
Only a couple of things in this game bother me.
- The inclusion of the overpowered Binary Rifle. It should never have left Spartan Ops/Campaign.
- The fact that Ragnarok is not CTF only. In regular Slayer, as much as I love the map, people get spawn killed all the time if the enemy team controls the central hill. It is also especially annoying when people camp with sniper weapons.
- Joining sessions in progress by obligation. Very seldom do you save a losing team from defeat. 70% of the time, however, you lose with them. There’s no point of being forced to lose.
- Solace is a perfect map for CTF and Slayer only. I hate having to get spawn killed every few seconds in SWAT or having to be bombarded every time I enter a hill in that map.
LMFAO, so it shatters Halo 3, but not Halo 2 when Halo 2 and 3 are almost identical. They are by far the most similar Halo games in the entire series.
Halo 4 is a sequel to Halo Reach and the absolute only aspect that is better than Halo 3 is the netcode, otherwise Halo 3 destroys Halo 4 in every other regard.
I want maps.
> Halo 4 looks lovely on the outside. It really does. It has a ridiculous level of polish on it. That’s very nice. But what is underneath is troubling. The first week I had this game I was thrilled. But then I actually started delving deep into all the features and seeing the intricacies of the game, and the amount of broken features, missing features, bad added features, and general bugs/glitches really upset me. I am a longtime Halo fan who has never owned a Halo console game. I got into the game through <mark>Halo: CE for Mac, and I’ve played Halo 2, 3, and Reach at friends’ houses quite a bit, so I decided to purchase my first Xbox ever: the Halo 4 Limited Edition console.</mark>
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> It has a wonderful cover. You just can’t judge a book by its cover.
Although I adore all the Halo’s, ALL of the games had glitches and bugs.
Alas, even I believe that Halo 4, while being an amazing game, still has some flaws and I sincerely hope that this will be cleared up in halo 5.
Besides, what is Halo without the odd glitch or two?
“It’s only their first game anyway.”
Just so you know, 343i has developers who were working for some of the greatest gaming studios these days; Valve, Rockstar, Ubisoft, ID, Bioware, EA and the list goes on. We’re talking about studios that created games like:
Counter Strike, Team Fortress, Grand Theft Auto, Assasins Creed, Brothers in Arms, Far Cry, Heroes, Prince of Persia, Tom Clancy shooters, Half Life, Portal, Left4Dead, Midnight Club, Max Payne, Red Dead Redemption, Doom, Wolfenstein, Quake (Best fps ever), Mass Effect and this list can go on for pages and pages if I’d list the EA ones.
343i’s first game; yes. But it is a freaking powerhouse studio with people from every corner of the gaming industry coming together to create the best from all perspectives.
> > > > > 343i could not have done a better job.
> > > >
> > > > Really? What about broken file sharing, no Campaign/Spartan Ops support in Theater and the plethora of missing custom game options?
> > > >
> > > > I’m calling flamebait as well.
> > >
> > > And is that seriously something to be upset about? Like really this is their first game and they have done incredibility well. The only fault is people expecting the game to be every level of perfect. Little things like the file share being down isn’t something to rage on the forums about.
> >
> > Yes it is. File sharing has been a staple of these games since 2007. 343 is a team of professionals who’s sole responsibility is to continue Halo and maintain the bar of product and service quality that Bungie provided.
> >
> > Halo 4 being their first game is no excuse. These people have worked on other titles before.
> >
> > Stop defending them and excusing each mistake they made and acknowledge that they could have done better.
>
> It seriously isn’t that big of a deal and you sound extremely childish. How about you walk up to their office and fix it for them? We would all like that.
That’s very childish itself. Working on Halo is not my professional job. I do not get paid to go to work every day to maintain the series.
Halo is 343’s sole responsibility. Saying that you can’t criticize 343 because you can’t do their work yourself is pathetic. If I have a bad professor at University, am I unable to express my concerns with their teaching habits just because I’m not a teacher myself?
Grow up.
> Were you paid to write this?
> > > > > > 343i could not have done a better job.
> > > > >
> > > > > Really? What about broken file sharing, no Campaign/Spartan Ops support in Theater and the plethora of missing custom game options?
> > > > >
> > > > > I’m calling flamebait as well.
> > > >
> > > > And is that seriously something to be upset about? Like really this is their first game and they have done incredibility well. The only fault is people expecting the game to be every level of perfect. Little things like the file share being down isn’t something to rage on the forums about.
> > >
> > > Yes it is. File sharing has been a staple of these games since 2007. 343 is a team of professionals who’s sole responsibility is to continue Halo and maintain the bar of product and service quality that Bungie provided.
> > >
> > > Halo 4 being their first game is no excuse. These people have worked on other titles before.
> > >
> > > Stop defending them and excusing each mistake they made and acknowledge that they could have done better.
> >
> > It seriously isn’t that big of a deal and you sound extremely childish. How about you walk up to their office and fix it for them? We would all like that.
>
> That’s very childish itself. Working on Halo is not my professional job. I do not get paid to go to work every day to maintain the series.
>
> Halo is 343’s sole responsibility. Saying that you can’t criticize 343 because you can’t do their work yourself is pathetic. If I have a bad professor at University, am I unable to express my concerns with their teaching habits just because I’m not a teacher myself?
>
> Grow up.
If you don’t work on halo and are not a professional then how can you criticize them for not doing something? Clearly they are having technical difficulties so unless you are a mastermind and can make all the bad things go away i suggest you be pathetic and let the professionals do their work.
Mocking them and having that kind of attitude isn’t going to help nor will it make them want to do anything if the community is going to act like that.
Boo Hoo for you buddy! Take a good look at who you are defending, stop helping a corporation that doesn’t give two -Yoink-'s about you.
It’s called Microsoft for a reason.
Whats Wrong?
- its not competitive enough
- its all random pods/spawns
- unbalanced weapons/spawns
- vehicles blow up way to easy
- AAs dont work in MM
thats the balk of it. I could add more and go into detail but thats been done SOOOOOOOOOOO many times already.
All of which can be fixed in a update.