The Warthog seems to have become all but useless ever since Halo:Reach. It was good in Halo 3 IF you had some good teamwork behind it, otherwise it just made a nice target for the Spartan Laser.
But in Halo:Reach and Halo 4, vehicles are much easier to destroy, and seem to be more difficult to control for some reason. It’s also easier to shoot the occupants out of their seats with the DMR and Sniper Rifle, not to mention both can destroy vehicles fairly easy.
I haven’t had one good run with the Warthog in Halo 4, and only a handful in Reach, and those only on large open maps with fairly level terrain (like Wayont and Hemorrhage).
It’s not just the Warthog, either. The Ghost really needs a buff, too. I’d say increasing the Damage Resistance of both vehicles (as well the players occupying them) would help a lot, as well as improving handling so they don’t get flipped over so easily. Make them more like they were in Halo 3.
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> Vehicles are fine. You just get pretty unlucky if you’re getting destroyed that fast.
You’re out of your mind, because the Warthog always gets destroyed in .5 seconds before I can get any kills. DMR bullets flip it over too easily. Same goes for the Ghost.
Either every player in Halo 4 sucks at driving the Warthog, or it needs a buff. I could make good use of the vehicle 50% of the time in Halo 3 depending on whether or not I got a good driver. But I get nothing out of in Halo:Reach or Halo 4.
The vehicles ARE kind of flimsy, but isn’t there a Specialization that adds defence to the vehicles driven by that particular occupant? Or am I mistaken?
> The vehicles ARE kind of flimsy, but isn’t there a Specialization that adds defence to the vehicles driven by that particular occupant? Or am I mistaken?
That would be the mod earned by maxing out the Operator Specialization called Wheelman. Wheelman gives you more resistance to EMP and gives any occupied vehicle slight health regen. These effects do not stack if you have multiple players with Wheelman.
It doesn’t give your vehicles more resistance to damage however.
No. ive killed plenty of people with the worthog already. and i terrorized an enemy spawn on ragnorok with a ghost. Its getting really tiring seeing people call for buffs or nerfs. If you can’t use it its not suited for you. If your getting destroyed the player is better then you. Get better. There are more serious issues like people surpassing the XP cap with a glitch or certain spots on certain maps have glitched spots that leave you outside the map, join in glitches on flood mode etc.
> No. ive killed plenty of people with the worthog already. and i terrorized an enemy spawn on ragnorok with a ghost. Its getting really tiring seeing people call for buffs or nerfs. If you can’t use it its not suited for you. If your getting destroyed the player is better then you. Get better. There are more serious issues like people surpassing the XP cap with a glitch or certain spots on certain maps have glitched spots that leave you outside the map, join in glitches on flood mode etc.
Don’t forget about the Bolshot instant reload glitch either. Just awful.
The only good button combo that isn’t gamebreaking and takes skill is the sprint-super nade throws. Now THAT is something awesome and while it’s easy to do, nade placement is much more trickier (i.e something to master). That shouldn’t be patched.
> > No. ive killed plenty of people with the worthog already. and i terrorized an enemy spawn on ragnorok with a ghost. Its getting really tiring seeing people call for buffs or nerfs. If you can’t use it its not suited for you. If your getting destroyed the player is better then you. Get better. There are more serious issues like people surpassing the XP cap with a glitch or certain spots on certain maps have glitched spots that leave you outside the map, join in glitches on flood mode etc.
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> Don’t forget about the Bolshot instant reload glitch either. Just awful.
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> The only good button combo that isn’t gamebreaking and takes skill is the sprint-super nade throws. Now THAT is something awesome and while it’s easy to do, nade placement is much more trickier (i.e something to master). That shouldn’t be patched.
Completely forgot about that glitch. Saw my friend stumble upon it last weekend. Should get patched. Super nade throw is fine because its not easy to do and placing nades is much harder in this game.
Not rushing into situations that would rapidly flip the warthog would help too. Stick by your team, split the damage amongst them… Don’t rush a spawn. I see it happen far to many times.
> No. ive killed plenty of people with the worthog already. and i terrorized an enemy spawn on ragnorok with a ghost. Its getting really tiring seeing people call for buffs or nerfs. If you can’t use it its not suited for you. If your getting destroyed the player is better then you. Get better. There are more serious issues like people surpassing the XP cap with a glitch or certain spots on certain maps have glitched spots that leave you outside the map, join in glitches on flood mode etc.
First of all… your grammar stinks.
Second, the problem is not me. The problem is I jump in turret, take aim, and then I get sniped out the gunner seat with a DMR or the Warthog flips over and blows up because we got shot by a DMR or a Sniper Rifle.
Either buff the 'Hog, or nerf the DMR and Sniper Rifle so they can’t destroy vehicles. That’s what Rockets and Lasers are for.
Didn’t / don’t know about the bolt reload glitch (Sometimes I wonder if I’m the only guy in the world that plays games games the without trying to find exploits, excluding trying to get out of a map lol) That would explain how I dodge some guy bolt shotting me to be bolt shotted again instantly anyway.
> > > No. ive killed plenty of people with the worthog already. and i terrorized an enemy spawn on ragnorok with a ghost. Its getting really tiring seeing people call for buffs or nerfs. If you can’t use it its not suited for you. If your getting destroyed the player is better then you. Get better. There are more serious issues like people surpassing the XP cap with a glitch or certain spots on certain maps have glitched spots that leave you outside the map, join in glitches on flood mode etc.
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> > Don’t forget about the Bolshot instant reload glitch either. Just awful.
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> > The only good button combo that isn’t gamebreaking and takes skill is the sprint-super nade throws. Now THAT is something awesome and while it’s easy to do, nade placement is much more trickier (i.e something to master). That shouldn’t be patched.
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> Completely forgot about that glitch. Saw my friend stumble upon it last weekend. Should get patched. Super nade throw is fine because its not easy to do and placing nades is much harder in this game.
Considering how common Boltshot users are becoming, the surprising range it can kill you in (contrary to popular belief, it CAN kill you outside point blank range), and the fact that’s basically a spawnable shotgun means that is indeed a gamebreaking element.
Sure, you can adapt and not rush so much knowing players can spawn w/Boltshot. However, telling one to adapt in the face of such an unbalancing glitch with an over-centralizing weapon is just idiotic. The fact that the glitch is on youtube means even more abuse is going to be coming from this weapon. I generally dislike the users part of the Boltshot adapt-O defense force because of this. Instead of addressing the issue, it’s better to just think 343 is perfect and you just need to adapt >.<
Anyways i am getting off topic here. There will be a time to discuss this else where. There is always is.
> > No. ive killed plenty of people with the worthog already. and i terrorized an enemy spawn on ragnorok with a ghost. Its getting really tiring seeing people call for buffs or nerfs. If you can’t use it its not suited for you. If your getting destroyed the player is better then you. Get better. There are more serious issues like people surpassing the XP cap with a glitch or certain spots on certain maps have glitched spots that leave you outside the map, join in glitches on flood mode etc.
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> First of all… your grammar stinks.
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> Second, the problem is not me. The problem is I jump in turret, take aim, and then I get sniped out the gunner seat with a DMR or the Warthog flips over and blows up because we got shot by a DMR or a Sniper Rifle.
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> Either buff the 'Hog, or nerf the DMR and Sniper Rifle so they can’t destroy vehicles. That’s what Rockets and Lasers are for.
First of all you understood my point. If your going to reply to me try not taking shots at me thats off topic. Secondly the problem is you. Because i just spent a whole night tonight playing BTB and i never got flipped (unless we hit a rock or vehicle) And ive only been sniped out of a worthog by a DMR a few times, and thats if my driver is sitting in one spot. Compared to reach vehicles are damaged a lot less from anything that isn’t a power weapon.
> > > > No. ive killed plenty of people with the worthog already. and i terrorized an enemy spawn on ragnorok with a ghost. Its getting really tiring seeing people call for buffs or nerfs. If you can’t use it its not suited for you. If your getting destroyed the player is better then you. Get better. There are more serious issues like people surpassing the XP cap with a glitch or certain spots on certain maps have glitched spots that leave you outside the map, join in glitches on flood mode etc.
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> > > Don’t forget about the Bolshot instant reload glitch either. Just awful.
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> > > The only good button combo that isn’t gamebreaking and takes skill is the sprint-super nade throws. Now THAT is something awesome and while it’s easy to do, nade placement is much more trickier (i.e something to master). That shouldn’t be patched.
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> > Completely forgot about that glitch. Saw my friend stumble upon it last weekend. Should get patched. Super nade throw is fine because its not easy to do and placing nades is much harder in this game.
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> Considering how common Boltshot users are becoming, the surprising range it can kill you in (contrary to popular belief, it CAN kill you outside point blank range), and the fact that’s basically a spawnable shotgun means that is indeed a gamebreaking element.
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> Sure, you can adapt and not rush so much knowing players can spawn w/Boltshot. However, telling one to adapt in the face of such an unbalancing glitch with an over-centralizing weapon is just idiotic. The fact that the glitch is on youtube means even more abuse is going to be coming from this weapon. I generally dislike the users part of the Boltshot adapt-O defense force because of this. Instead of addressing the issue, it’s better to just think 343 is perfect and you just need to adapt >.<
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> Anyways i am getting off topic here. There will be a time to discuss this else where. There is always is.
I know the boltshot can kill out of point blank. But not very far. Its only annoyed me when people use it paired with cloak. -Yoinking!- christ it scares me lol.
> > > No. ive killed plenty of people with the worthog already. and i terrorized an enemy spawn on ragnorok with a ghost. Its getting really tiring seeing people call for buffs or nerfs. If you can’t use it its not suited for you. If your getting destroyed the player is better then you. Get better. There are more serious issues like people surpassing the XP cap with a glitch or certain spots on certain maps have glitched spots that leave you outside the map, join in glitches on flood mode etc.
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> > First of all… your grammar stinks.
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> > Second, the problem is not me. The problem is I jump in turret, take aim, and then I get sniped out the gunner seat with a DMR or the Warthog flips over and blows up because we got shot by a DMR or a Sniper Rifle.
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> > Either buff the 'Hog, or nerf the DMR and Sniper Rifle so they can’t destroy vehicles. That’s what Rockets and Lasers are for.
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> First of all you understood my point. If your going to reply to me try not taking shots at me thats off topic. Secondly the problem is you. Because i just spent a whole night tonight playing BTB and i never got flipped (unless we hit a rock or vehicle) And ive only been sniped out of a worthog by a DMR a few times, and thats if my driver is sitting in one spot. Compared to reach vehicles are damaged a lot less from anything that isn’t a power weapon.
I think you’re bull****ing me, because it’s not just me who has difficulty with the Warthog. You know I’ve yet to be killed by a Warthog in Halo 4? That’s because every time I see one, it flips over and blows up five seconds later. The reasons for which I’ve already described.
> > > > No. ive killed plenty of people with the worthog already. and i terrorized an enemy spawn on ragnorok with a ghost. Its getting really tiring seeing people call for buffs or nerfs. If you can’t use it its not suited for you. If your getting destroyed the player is better then you. Get better. There are more serious issues like people surpassing the XP cap with a glitch or certain spots on certain maps have glitched spots that leave you outside the map, join in glitches on flood mode etc.
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> > > First of all… your grammar stinks.
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> > > Second, the problem is not me. The problem is I jump in turret, take aim, and then I get sniped out the gunner seat with a DMR or the Warthog flips over and blows up because we got shot by a DMR or a Sniper Rifle.
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> > > Either buff the 'Hog, or nerf the DMR and Sniper Rifle so they can’t destroy vehicles. That’s what Rockets and Lasers are for.
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> > First of all you understood my point. If your going to reply to me try not taking shots at me thats off topic. Secondly the problem is you. Because i just spent a whole night tonight playing BTB and i never got flipped (unless we hit a rock or vehicle) And ive only been sniped out of a worthog by a DMR a few times, and thats if my driver is sitting in one spot. Compared to reach vehicles are damaged a lot less from anything that isn’t a power weapon.
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> I think you’re bull****ing me, because it’s not just me who has difficulty with the Warthog. You know I’ve yet to be killed by a Warthog in Halo 4? That’s because every time I see one, it flips over and blows up five seconds later. The reasons for which I’ve already described.
Think what you wish. But me my friends and my brother all played BTB tonight and got plenty of ghost and hog kills. I am a TERRIBLE driver, always have been and i don’t flip nearly as much as i did with reaches hog. It feels a lot better. the ghost feels stronger to me as well. I used to just splatter with it but now i actually use the guns.