Yeah I know Serina only just released so we were going to have this issue, but god help me now Serina is completely broken. She has those frost air units close to the start of the game and Wolverines can barely hold their own against them and people complained about Jerome, well trust me Serina is a lot worse.
Apart from that I think Serina is a great add on and definitely changes the play style of Halo Wars, she just needs to be more balanced seeing as she is so overpowered at the moment. Would love them to make a Banished Leader like this! Not necessarily an ice Leader but a leader that is just as amazing as Serina is. Would also be cool to see a new super unit added to the field! Like that Banished ship that looks like Seraph that drops off the bases, that’d be cool or even something like the Vampire from the first Halo Wars.
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> You thread is really confusing… You claim is broken but you say is overpowered… I don’t understand. Put your things together and then write son.
She is broken due to being so overpowered, not sure what part you didn’t get. Also before questioning my post, you should take a look at your English (no offence).
Um idk if id call her OP just yet. Remember how everyone called johnson op early? Things will settle down. That being said I feel like her cooldowns are crazy fast! Can anyone thats played her verify that?
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> Um idk if id call her OP just yet. Remember how everyone called johnson op early? Things will settle down. That being said I feel like her cooldowns are crazy fast! Can anyone thats played her verify that?
I’ve played her and yes it seems to cool down extremely fast and if Wolverines aren’t that great at countering her frost ravens then it seems overpowered to me, I mean they’re anti-air for a reason.
Lol I actually think she’s terrible better players would’ve either started gaining map control or started expanding before you get your second leader point and the frost raven doesn’t do any damage even when you do get to unlock them. In fact none of what she has does enough damage to make her viable but hey that’s just my initial opinion
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> > Um idk if id call her OP just yet. Remember how everyone called johnson op early? Things will settle down. That being said I feel like her cooldowns are crazy fast! Can anyone thats played her verify that?
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> I’ve played her and yes it seems to cool down extremely fast and if Wolverines aren’t that great at countering her frost ravens then it seems overpowered to me, I mean they’re anti-air for a reason.
Maybe you should have a conversation with the banshee spam counter guys.
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> > > Um idk if id call her OP just yet. Remember how everyone called johnson op early? Things will settle down. That being said I feel like her cooldowns are crazy fast! Can anyone thats played her verify that?
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> > I’ve played her and yes it seems to cool down extremely fast and if Wolverines aren’t that great at countering her frost ravens then it seems overpowered to me, I mean they’re anti-air for a reason.
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> Maybe you should have a conversation with the banshee spam counter guys.
Lol yeah. And as long as u mix in marines you should be fine? Wolves wont carry you all the way. But hey what do i know? You could be right, im just sayin lets be patient. Have u tried sentinels against them?
She’s definitely strong, but I’d say it’s too early to call her broken. Most of her tech relies on the ice mechanics but if you can out position her she doesn’t have many options.
EDIT: I take it back. After a decent amount of playing with and against her, I feel it’s safe to say she’s blatantly overpowered. If the opposing player is half competent she has very few weaknesses, and those she does have require very high level micro to work around. The ice mechanic is in need of a total rework. It’s basically stasis, except the enemy can damage you while you’re frozen. It’s problematic.
Hmmmm… Well she’s mainly a support. So she herself can’t be a front-liner. In a rock paper scissor. CPT. Cutter & Kinsano is a scissor, Anders, Johnson & Late stage Forge are a Rocks, And Isabelle & Serina are just Paper.
She can defend her base with ice. She can destroy enemy bases with ice. She can control nodes with ice. Her hero is very strong. She has no weaknesses.
She needs a balance update ASAP
I don’t wanna fuel this fire at all, buuut she can freeze Cutter’s gunships in their tracks. Having said that, she has the potential to counter all of the big rushes and spans that people have been complaining about. I’ve seen it happen, most of it first hand, at my hand. I say leave her alone.
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> Hmmmm… Well she’s mainly a support. So she herself can’t be a front-liner. In a rock paper scissor. CPT. Cutter & Kinsano is a scissor, Anders, Johnson & Late stage Forge are a Rocks, And Isabelle & Serina are just Paper.
That’s what I have come to a conclusion. She is good with support but terrible alone. Which is a good thing imo.
she has quicker use abilities that do less damage unlike offensive leaders with slow abilities with heavy damage. She it the opposite.
She needs units to do damage unlike most other leaders in that aspect she is more like Shipmaster or Arbiter. Her only big damage power requires another power to be used first.
Serina is definitely broken. Between her hero unit, ice block drops, and her leader perk that freezes power nodes, she can really control whatever part of the map she wants. Then she has amazing offensive drops as well that can wipe an entire army when combined. It’s to the point to where you have to have her on 2v2 or 3v3 to be competitive.
And I’m not even sure what to do to balance her, but there needs to be some changes, my first suggestion would be to make her hero unit more expensive and reduce the radius of the area she covers with the freeze.
Mate Serina is so broken it’s not funny -
The Hero unit drives in to bases freezes everything including production. Nothing you can do.
With sufficient units it takes ages to kill.
All her abilities cool down are insanely fast.
The points being capped by Serina freeze everything, makes taking back nodes extremely difficult.
I think this is the worst one yet. FFS. The balance for the rest of the game was great but this is just
-Yoinking!- annoying
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> Serina is definitely broken. Between her hero unit, ice block drops, and her leader perk that freezes power nodes, she can really control whatever part of the map she wants. Then she has amazing offensive drops as well that can wipe an entire army when combined. It’s to the point to where you have to have her on 2v2 or 3v3 to be competitive.
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> And I’m not even sure what to do to balance her, but there needs to be some changes, my first suggestion would be to make her hero unit more expensive and reduce the radius of the area she covers with the freeze.
Pretty much this. I faced a pretty ‘meh’ Serina a little while ago and there were quite a few times where she could’ve killed my momentum. Her freeze abilities can immobilize an army and completely change the tide of battle. She’s definitely the closest leader to Shipmaster in that regard.
She’s also a better Turtle leader than Anders. I mean, she can literally just drop ice from the sky, freeze your army in place, slaughter them and then zoom over to your base with even more army freezing abilities so you won’t even have a chance at defending. I don’t play 1’s, but I’ll be -Yoink!- if she isn’t at least Top 3.
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> > Serina is definitely broken. Between her hero unit, ice block drops, and her leader perk that freezes power nodes, she can really control whatever part of the map she wants. Then she has amazing offensive drops as well that can wipe an entire army when combined. It’s to the point to where you have to have her on 2v2 or 3v3 to be competitive.
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> Pretty much this. I faced a pretty ‘meh’ Serina a little while ago and there were quite a few times where she could’ve killed my momentum. Her freeze abilities can immobilize an army and completely change the tide of battle. She’s definitely the closest leader to Shipmaster in that regard.
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> She’s also a better Turtle leader than Anders. I mean, she can literally just drop ice from the sky, freeze your army in place, slaughter them and then zoom over to your base with even more army freezing abilities so you won’t even have a chance at defending. I don’t play 1’s, but I’ll be -Yoink!- if she isn’t at least Top 3.
I just played Serina against some legendary AI (been on a terrible losing streak in mp), and I got like 16 ravens and 10 gales, and while it took 15 minutes to destroy all the bases, there was nothing the ai could do to stop me. While I do think she might need a slight rework, I can’t think of anything that wouldn’t nerf her to the point of being useless.
she’s pretty weak, but ya lost once against her she’s op.
